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*The biggest challenge with creating new microformats (especially for new comers) is with following the process.  The same discussions are often had over and over for different formats, thus it makes sense for people developing different formats to at least see the discussions around the creation of other formats and hopefully learn from them and avoid repeating the same questions or mistakes.  [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 00:10, 25 Oct 2006 (PDT)
*The biggest challenge with creating new microformats (especially for new comers) is with following the process.  The same discussions are often had over and over for different formats, thus it makes sense for people developing different formats to at least see the discussions around the creation of other formats and hopefully learn from them and avoid repeating the same questions or mistakes.  [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 00:10, 25 Oct 2006 (PDT)
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**Someone new to the mailing list won't see past discussion ether anyway; they need to be referred to the archive. If busy people, whose expertise we need, choose not to see discussion of other, unrelated microformats, we can't force it on them - we either provide a more specifically-focussed forum, or they don't participate at all - which is best? [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 03:06, 25 Oct 2006 (PDT)
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**Someone new to the mailing list won't see past discussion there anyway; they need to be referred to the archive. If busy people, whose expertise we need, choose not to see discussion of other, unrelated microformats, we can't force it on them - we either provide a more specifically-focussed forum, or they don't participate at all - which is best? [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 03:06, 25 Oct 2006 (PDT)
*In addition, part of the [[microformats]] methodology/philosophy/principles is simplicity and minimalism - the fewer the better.  This applies not only to microformats, microformats properties, and microformats values, but to microformats mailing lists as well.  Thus since the beginning we have only created lists when absolutely necessary (i.e. when the traffic/topics crowded out one of the other lists), and then only one at a time.  [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 00:10, 25 Oct 2006 (PDT)
*In addition, part of the [[microformats]] methodology/philosophy/principles is simplicity and minimalism - the fewer the better.  This applies not only to microformats, microformats properties, and microformats values, but to microformats mailing lists as well.  Thus since the beginning we have only created lists when absolutely necessary (i.e. when the traffic/topics crowded out one of the other lists), and then only one at a time.  [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 00:10, 25 Oct 2006 (PDT)
**I can see what has happened previously; I'm suggesting - with a stated justification - a variation on that. There is more than one opinion, as to what is "necessary". [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 03:06, 25 Oct 2006 (PDT)
**I can see what has happened previously; I'm suggesting - with a stated justification - a variation on that. There is more than one opinion, as to what is "necessary". [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 03:06, 25 Oct 2006 (PDT)

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Mailing Lists Proposals

There is a proposal for creating a new mailing list for discussing the research and creation of new microformats so that those discussions do not overwhelm microformats-discuss.

Some candidates for names with the thinking behind them. Feel free to add your name and opinion (+/- 1 or 0).

microformats-new

Focusing on discussing "new" microformats

microformats-research

Focusing on the essential, and often overlooked by first-time proposers "research" phase(s) in the process

microformats-process

That's really what we're talking about with research of new microformats, isn't it?

microformats-propose

Comment (possibly by Tantek?): It misses the point of the process, and implies that there is a desire for microformats proposals - there isn't.

microformats-suggest

Similar to propose but milder ;)

microformats-work

For working on microformats, new and old.

microformats-wg

WG is an abbreviation of Working Group

microformats-tf

TF is an abbreviation of Task Force

Change nothing

e.g fix uf-dev, do nothing else (for now)

General Comments

Andy Mabbett

Why not create a new mailing list for each proposal, once it's reached a certain stage? Then , if the uF is created, or the proposal abandoned, the specific list would be closed, and the archive retained as a link from the "brainstorming" page, as a permanent, and discrete record of discussion on that topic.

Alternatively, the list could be retained for discussion of the implementation and development of that specific uF.

For example, several academic and professional taxonomists have told me in e-mail that they would be interested in the species proposal, (and one astronomer, likewise, for mars/ luna), but do not have the time to follow a general mailing list; indeed, a couple asked me specifically if I would set up a separate mailing list for the subject.

Andy Mabbett 04:44, 24 Oct 2006 (PDT)

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