persondata

Persondata

A comparison between Wikipedia's persondata and the hCard microformat.

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Shared attributes

PERSONDATA	hCard HTML class names
-	vcard (required; outer wrapper; can not be on same element as its children)
NAME	fn (required)
ALTERNATIVE NAMES	nickname
SHORT DESCRIPTION	note
DATE OF BIRTH	bday
PLACE OF BIRTH	not in hCard
DATE OF DEATH	not in hCard, but proposed as an extension
PLACE OF DEATH	not in hCard

Notes

"fn" can be sub-divided:

• n
  • honorific-prefix
  • given-name
  • additional-name
  • family-name
  • honorific-suffix

• Wikipedia has a special Template for birth dates. {{birth date and age|1926|5|8}}, could output the "bday" property as one of:
  • <abbr class="bday" title="1926-05-08">8 May 1926 (age 80)</abbr> (once abbr is supported)
  • 8 May 1926 (age 80)<br style="display:none;" /><span style="display:none;" class="bday">1926-05-08</span>

(Likewise the death-date and age-calculator template: {{death date and age|1974|11|25|1948|6|19}} )

hCard attributes not in Persondata, but in Wikipedia infoboxes

• category (tag)
• photo
• url

Notes

• Persondata could use the Wikipedia page URL for the hCard url property, or the URL given in an infobox.
• Data matching other hCard properties (adr, geo, org, etc.) may be found in Wikipedia infoboxes for organisations and venues.

Persondata attributes not in hCard

Persondata could use, for example:

PLACE OF BIRTH	birthplace	BIRTH
DATE OF DEATH	dday or dod	DDAY
PLACE OF DEATH	deathplace	DEATH

(Class names suggested for use in Wikipedia, without prejudice to future developments of hCard)

(Third column shows proposed vCard 4.0 names.)

Other properties

• Persondata is hidden metadata; hCard is for data published on the page.
• Persondata is for people; hCard can also be used for organisations and venues

Example mark-up

Wikpedia infobox

(simplified and wrapped for clarity)

<table class="infobox">

<tr>
  <th colspan="3">John Doe</th>
</tr>

<tr>
  <td colspan="3">
    <a href="xxx/xxx.jpg" class="image">
      <img src="xxx/yyy.jpg" alt="xxx">
    </a>
</td>
</tr>

<tr>
  <td><b>Birth name</b></td>
  <td colspan="2">James Johannes Doeville</td>
</tr>

<tr>
  <td><b>Born</b></td>
  <td colspan="2">
    3 April 1924, 
    <a href="/wiki/Cincinnati">Cincinnati</a>, 
    <a href="/wiki/Ohio">Ohio</a>, <a href="/wiki/USA">USA</a>
  </td>
</tr>

<tr>
  <td><b>Died</b></td>
  <td colspan="2">
    22 May 1977, 
    <a href="/wiki/Birmingham">Birmingham</a>, 
    <a href="/wiki/England">England</a>
  </td>
</tr>

<tr>
  <td>Website</td>
  <td colspan="2">
    <a href="http://www.example.com/" class="external text">John Doe tribute page</a>
  </td>
</tr>

</table>

Persondata

(Styled to be invisible by default)

<table id="persondata" class="persondata">

<tr>
  <th colspan="2"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Persondata" title="Wikipedia:Persondata">Persondata</a></th>
</tr>

<tr>
  <td class="persondata-label">NAME</td>
  <td>Doe, John</td>
</tr>

<tr>
  <td class="persondata-label">ALTERNATIVE NAMES</td>
  <td>Doeville, James Johannes</td>
</tr>

<tr>
  <td class="persondata-label">SHORT DESCRIPTION</td>
  <td>treacle-bender, spaghetti-knitter</td>
</tr>

<tr>
  <td class="persondata-label">DATE OF BIRTH</td>
  <td>
    3 April 1924
  </td>
</tr>

<tr>
  <td class="persondata-label">PLACE OF BIRTH</td>
  <td>
    <a href="/wiki/Cincinnati" title="Cincinnati">Cincinnati</a>, 
    <a href="/wiki/Ohio" title="Ohio">Ohio</a>, 
    <a href="/wiki/USA" title="USA">USA</a>
  </td>
</tr>

<tr>
  <td class="persondata-label">DATE OF DEATH</td>
  <td>
    22 May 1977
  </td>
</tr>

<tr>
  <td class="persondata-label">PLACE OF DEATH</td>
  <td>
    <a href="/wiki/Birmingham" title="Birmingham">Birmingham</a>, 
    <a href="/wiki/England" title="England">England</a>
  </td>
</tr>

</table>

Suggested combination infobox, with hCard

<table class="infobox vcard">

<tr>
  <th colspan="3" class="fn">John Doe</th>
</tr>

<tr>
  <td colspan="3">
    <a href="xxx/xxx.jpg" class="image"><img src="xxx/yyy.jpg" alt="xxx"></a>
</td>
</tr>

<tr>
  <td>Birth name</td>
  <td colspan="2" class="nickname">James Johannes Doeville</td>
</tr>

<tr>
  <td>Born</td>
  <td colspan="2">
    <abbr class="bday" title="1924-04-03">3 April 1924</abbr>, 
    <span class="birthplace">
      <a href="/wiki/Cincinnati">Cincinnati</a>, 
      <a href="/wiki/Ohio">Ohio</a>, <a href="/wiki/USA">USA</a>
    </span>
  </td>
</tr>

<tr>
  <td>Died</td>
  <td colspan="2">
    <abbr class="dday" title="1977-05-22">22 May 1977</abbr>, 
    <span class="deathplace">
      <a href="/wiki/Birmingham">Birmingham</a>, 
      <a href="/wiki/England">England</a>
    </span>
  </td>
</tr>

<tr>
  <td><b>Website</b></td>
  <td colspan="2">
    <a href="http://www.example.com/" class="external text url">John Doe tribute page</a>
  </td>
</tr>

<tr>
  <td>Briefly...</td>
  <td colspan="2" class="note">Treacle-bender and spaghetti-knitter</td>
</tr>

</table>

Related pages

• hCard
• hCard cheatsheet - hCard properties
• hCard creator (feedback) - create your own hCard.
• hCard authoring - learn how to add hCard markup to your existing contact info.
• hCard examples - example usage of various classes within hCard.
• hCard examples in the wild - an on-going list of websites which use hCards.
• hcard-supporting-user-profiles - sites with user profiles marked up with hCard - a very common example.
• hCard FAQ - if you have any questions about hCard, check here.
• hCard implementations - websites or tools which either generate or parse hCards.
• hCard parsing - normative details of how to parse hCards.
• hCards and pages - semantic distinctions between different hCards on a page, and how to identify each
• hcard-user-interface - techniques and issues surrounding user-interfaces to author, publish, and display hCards.
• hCard profile - the XMDP profile for hCard
• hCard singular properties - an explanation of the list of singular properties in hCard.
• hCard tests - a wiki page with actual embedded hCards to try parsing.
• hCard advocacy - encourage others to use hCard
• hCard "to do" - jobs to do

The hCard specification is a work in progress. As additional aspects are discussed, understood, and written, they will be added. These thoughts, issues, and questions are kept in separate pages.

• hCard brainstorming - brainstorms and other explorations relating to hCard.
  • hcard-parsing-brainstorming - brainstorming specific to parsing of hCard
  • geo brainstorming
• hCard feedback - general feedback (as opposed to specific issues).
• hCard issues - specific issues with the specification.
• vCard errata - corrections to the vCard specification, which underlies hCard.
• vCard suggestions - suggested improvements to the vCard specification.