[Microformats-dev] hCards for companies and orgs as opposed to people?

[Ryan King]

On Jul 25, 2005, at 2:23 PM, Dan Connolly wrote:

> Tantek and I have been discussing an issue...
>   http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar-issues
>
> 2005-07-22 raised by DanConnolly
>      1. in my cellphone/sidekick address book, I have a number of
>         entries for companies. I wrote
>         asHCard.xsl (http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2001/palmagent/ 
> asHCard.xsl) to convert the data from RDF to hCard, but I don't  
> know what to do with entries for companies, since FN is mandatory  
> in hCard.
>               * A: This should be an FAQ. "How do I write an hCard  
> for a
>                 company?"

Definitely.

> The vCard specification is silent on this
>                 point (entries for companies). Thus there are two
>                 options as far as the hCard standard is concerned:
>                      1. Set "fn" and "org" to the same value. E.g.  
> <span
>                         class="fn org">W3C</span>
>                      2. Set "org" as usual, and set "fn" explicitly to
>                         empty. E.g. <span class="fn"></span><span
>                         class="org">W3C</span>

I think either approach could be valid, though this is certainly an  
open question. I'd prefer that it be explicit, personally.

>               * For converting applications (hCard to vCard), they may
>                 consider using proprietary extensions to make the
>                 distinction explicit in generated vCards, based on
>                 either case 1 or 2 above. E.g. Apple's Address Book
>                 application supports the property: X-ABShowAs:COMPANY

Previous discussions around hcard have leaned against using any  
proprietary extensions.

> I'm new to this microformats community, so this is sort of a test to
> see whether things get more or less attention in email vs. the wiki.

Email will probably get more attention.

> I tried putting the company name in both the ORG and FN
> fields, but when I hit the edit button in Apple's addressbook,
> it treated the FN string as given/family name.
>
> I notice that I'm not the only one running into this issue...
> Cinema Treasures has no class="fn" in their data...

Of course, X2V wouldn't have to translate things 1-to-1. The hcard  
could have a <span class="fn or">...</span> which gets converted into  
the proprietary fields that Apple's address book uses.

> $ xsltproc --stringparam Source
> http://cinematreasures.org/theater/12884/ xhtml2vcard.xsl
> http://cinematreasures.org/theater/12884/
> BEGIN:VCARD
> PRODID:-//connolly.w3.org//palmagent 0.6 (BETA)//EN
> SOURCE: http://cinematreasures.org/theater/12884/
> NAME: Cinema Treasures | Plaza Theatre
> VERSION:3.0
> FN;LANGUAGE=en:
> N;LANGUAGE=en:;;;;;
> ADR;LANGUAGE=en:;;1603 Main Street East;Humboldt;TN;38343;;
> ORG;LANGUAGE=en:Plaza Theatre
> URL:http://cinematreasures.org/theater/12884
> END:VCARD


-ryan