[uf-discuss] hAtom draft

David Janes -- BlogMatrix davidjanes at blogmatrix.com
Sat Dec 3 01:19:43 PST 2005

[I think Charles has covered most of this, but I'll give a quick gloss]

Benjamin Carlyle wrote:
> Hello,
> On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 04:02 -0500, David Janes -- BlogMatrix wrote:
>> Have at it:
>> http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom
> I've had a play at applying this to my weblog[1]. One question I would
> like to ask is about the author field. I currently have my name tagged
> with dc-author and foaf-name on the main page. I think the dc-author is
> non-standard in the body and used in this way. The foaf-name is
> experimental based on a generalised microformat for rdf, which of course
> is not microformat because it is too general.
> I see that hAtom currently recommds the use of a hcard. I could add this
> in as well, but what does a hcard mean when floating around on a web
> page? I'm also uneasy about including a <span class="vcard"></span>
> section in the document. Not all of the relevant information is in one
> place.

I have issues about this too, but it's not required. You are free to do ...
... and leave it at that.

To address the deeper issue you're getting at, once I'm clear of hAtom, 
I was thinking of pushing the concept of "rel-bookmark" defining the 
"best location for this microformat object". This could be used like this:

<address class="vcard">
  <span class="fn">Benjamin Carlyle</span>,
  <a rel="bookmark" href="http://.../#mycard">My hCard</a>

> Urrgh. I'm not quite getting this out right, but what is the most
> straightforward way to say "This page and everything in it was authored
> by Benjmain Carlyle"? :)

I think there's been some discussion of this. Maybe something like (?):

  <link rel="vcard" href="http://.../#mycard" />

> I don't want to add a URL. Why should I? You're already at my home page.
> I don't want to add an email address, or not a precisely valid one. I
> don't want to attract spam. Technorati has the only photo I display, and
> that is provided by javascript I don't control. I can't directly
> reference it. I just want to quickly make a few assertions and have them
> picked up by a hAtom parser.


<address class="vcard">
  <span class="fn">Benjamin Carlyle</span>

Regards, etc...

PS. Extra for hCard experts -- valid or not?

<address class="vcard fn">Benjamin Carlyle</address>

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