Just tag it. (was Re: [uf-discuss] "parental guidance" Microformat?)

[Frederic de Villamil]

On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 12:58:23PM -0800, Tantek Çelik wrote:
> On 12/23/05 6:04 AM, "Frederic de Villamil" <neuro at 7el.net> wrote:
> 
> > Hi list,
> > I was lately thinking about a way to tell the most accurate way that a
> > link points to a page with content not suitable for people under a
> > certain age, such as porn, violence...
> 
> What subjects are suitable or not for people of what age differs greatly
> across both different cultures in the same time (e.g. in the present), and
> the same culture across different times.
> 
> 
> > the list should be long.
> 
> And for that reason, there shouldn't be a precise list, or taxonomy,
> certainly not developed by the microformats community.
> 
> For such lists, it is much preferable to use a folksonomy, or simple tags
> that each individual in the community applies in their own determination.
> 
> 
> > I've been thinking about vote-links, and I'm wondering why we could not
> > use rev="pg13" or rev="pg16" in links the way we use vote-for and
> > vote-against in vote links.
> >
> > It would give something like this:
> > <a href="http://www.example.com" rev="pg13" title="not suitable for
> > people under 13">some page</a>
> 
> An effectively identical proposal, rel="xxx" has been proposed and rejected,
> please see the archives.
> 
> Also, please see the rel-faq which also discusses rev.  This proposal is an
> incorrect use of rev.
> 
>  http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-faq
> 
> In short, rev="vote-for" means the current page is a "vote-for" the
> referenced page.
> 
> Whereas, it makes no sense to say that the current page is a "pg13" for the
> referenced page.
> 
> 
> The short answer is, rather than jumping to using a rel or rev value, first
> describe what you are trying to do, and then the answer is fairly
> straightforward.
> 
> 
> My understanding of what you are trying to do is this:
> 
> 
> Enable any author on the web to associate one or more keywords pertaining to
> aspects of content with a url associated with that content.
> 
> 
> As with the rejection of rel="xxx", there is no need to specify a new
> specific microformat with specific keywords or tags for this.
> 
> 
> The right answer here is to use either xFolk and/or hReview to tag and/or
> review the content in question, using whatever tags you want to use.
> 
>  http://microformats.org/wiki/xfolk
> 
>  http://microformats.org/wiki/hreview
> 
> If you want to use the precise meaning of tags or keywords defined by a
> particular authority, then you need a URL tagspace for those precise
> meanings, as defined in the rel-tag standard.
> 
>  http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-tag
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tantek

Tantek,
I did not follow the rejection of rel="xxx" and I misunderstood the real
purpose of rev="xxx" after reading Ryan's article. Thank you for
enlighting me and pointing my mistakes out.

After reading all this, tags are obviously the best way to do what I
wanted to do.
Frederic