[microformats-discuss] Video Pop-up Link Maker

Ryan King ryan at technorati.com
Wed Oct 12 11:57:58 PDT 2005

On Oct 12, 2005, at 11:48 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote:

> Here's what I think, which is basically outlined in the table on the
> wiki located here:
> < http://microformats.org/wiki/media-metadata-examples >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> <div class="enclosure">
>     <a href=[URL of video] title=[title of video] type=[mime-type]
> rel="enclosure">
>         <img src=[URL of thumbnail image] class="thumbnail" />
>     </a>
>     <abbr class="duration" title="00:27:35">27 minutes, 35 seconds</ 
> abbr>
>     [hCard of XFN for roles of creators/authors]
>     [hCalendar for date of creation]
>     [relLicense for license info]
>     [relTag for category/taxonomy info]
>     [relPayment for payment info]
>     <blockquote>[description of video]</blockquote>
> </div>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Multiple relEnclosure links within the <div> should be the same video
> content, but perhaps different formats or resolutions.
> Multiple <div class="enclosure"> elements may be used so long as each
> <div> is a different piece of video content (e.g. do not ue additional
> <div>'s for the same video at different resolutions)
> But... this is a lot of data that we're asking people to enter.
> Imagine all those form fields staring at you on a webpage. I'm not
> saying that it wouldn't be good to have all that data and an easy way
> to input it, but the chance that someone would actually fill out all
> those *optional* fields might be rather slim.
> The core of the thing... the image link with relEnclosure may be the
> most common usage scenario satisfying probably 80% of the needs of
> most independent video publishers/videobloggers.
> -Josh


>>> Please contribute any markup examples you have.
>>> We need to persist markup examples on the wiki- for the benefit of
>>> others in this community who aren't domain experts and as a  
>>> defensive
>>> measure in the future, so that we can show the entire paper trail of
>>> developing the microformat.

I think we're miscommunicating here.

What you have above, Josh is some great analysis, a good conclusion.

What we're missing is the evidence that led you to that conclusion.

You know vlogging well, most of us don't- this is part of the reason  
why we advocate thorough documentation, because only then can non- 
domain-experts work with the format in an informed manner.

David Janes (and others) are doing great work on http:// 
microformats.org/wiki/blog-post-formats. We need similar work for media.

Ryan King
ryan at technorati.com

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