[microformats-discuss] Microformats Zen Garden

Thomas Vander Wal vanderwal at gmail.com
Sat Oct 22 06:06:55 PDT 2005

I really loved Tantek's pointing to the Web 2.0 Speaker hCard.  I have
pointed many to that already and they now "get it".

I like Ryan's idea of providing these simple things and showing what
can be done.  There really needs to be a showcase.  Much like CSS Zen
Garden where I could take a developer  or customer and show the Zen
Garden then show them what was underneath each page (the exact same
thing).  It was a lightbulb site, people see it and the lightbulb goes
on.  Microformats needs something along these lines, badly.

Thowing my chips in.

All the best,

On 10/21/05, Ryan King <ryan at technorati.com> wrote:
> On Oct 21, 2005, at 1:13 PM, Scott Reynen wrote:
> > Robert Bachmann wrote:
> >> Kevin Lawver wrote:
> >>> Do we really want to emulate the zen garden?  It's great at
> >>> showing what
> >>> CSS is good at: styling markup.  The real power of it is that it
> >>> shows
> >>> off what you can do with CSS without changing markup.  I'm not
> >>> sure that
> >>> works for microformats...  does it?
> >> Time will tell ;-)
> >>
> >
> > I imagine the primary benefit of this will not be CSS styling of
> > microformatted content, but rather JavaScript applications built
> > upon the data, e.g. a dynamic address book application using hCard
> > data.
> Exactly. :D
> > This is what microformats are good at: pulling structured data out
> > of web sites to make it more useful.  But the CSS Zen Garden's
> > basic model still applies with one single static XHTML file (or
> > maybe one per microformat) repurposed with external files.
> Here's the general idea, unless someone has an objectsion:
> 1. Publish some static html in several scenarios. Possible scenarios:
>      * list of contacts
>      * list of events
>      * ...
> 2. Have people write CSS and Javascript to do cool stuff on top of
> it. In the case of a list of contacts, someone could build something
> that looked and behaved like a desktop addressbook (minus the
> persitence, since all they have is a static file).
> 3. Showcase people's implementations.
> We can, of course, run this on microformats.org. I can help with
> those logistics, when the time comes.
> -ryan
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