[uf-discuss] RE: microformats for groups and group memberships?

[Eran]

Hey Jim,

After much prodding from Tantek and some from Ryan as well I finally got to
adding some of my own related work to the wiki. I've used a simple format
(based on XFN) to describe group membership and roles. Using the "<a rel"
pattern to describe roles like:

<a rel="group" href="http://microformats.org/">Microformats</a> 

Or

<a rel="member" href="http://hellonline.com/">Eran Globen</a>

Additional values I've used are moderator and founder to describe those
roles in a group.
You can see the draft profile I wrote for this at
http://hellonline.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/XMF
And of course, it's all linked from the wiki at:
http://microformats.org/wiki/group-brainstorming#Rel_Group_Member_Proposal

Eran.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: microformats-discuss-bounces at microformats.org
> [mailto:microformats-discuss-bounces at microformats.org] On Behalf Of Jim
> Dalton
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:34 AM
> To: 'Chris Messina'; microformats-discuss at microformats.org
> Subject: [uf-discuss] RE: microformats for groups and group
> memberships?
> 
> Very helpful, exactly what I was looking for, and it's a very useful
> start.
> 
> Would it make sense for the main page of the wiki to link to this page
> under the Exploratory Discussions section? I'll happy add the link
> myself, unless there is a policy in place of not linking to certain
> exploratory discussions from the main page...
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Jim Dalton
> Production Director
> ERE Media, Inc.
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> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Messina [mailto:chris.messina at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:28 PM
> To: jim at ere.net; Microformats Discuss
> Subject: Re: microformats for groups and group memberships?
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> You should take a look at some of the list's "prior art":
> 
> http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2006-
> February/0031
> 81.html
> 
> http://microformats.org/wiki/group-brainstorming
> 
> Chris
> 
> On 8/10/06, Jim Dalton <jim at ere.net> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm fairly new to this list, so forgive me if this topic has been
> discussed
> > before or if the information is available on the wiki (did my best to
> search
> > both and came up with a blank). I'm probably not as technically savvy
> > as many of you either, so my apologies in advance for inadvertently
> butchering
> > terms or concepts.
> >
> > I'm interested in how microformats are being (or could be) used to
> > define both memberships of individuals to a group, organization,
> > company,
> personal
> > network etc., as well as defining a member's "role" within that
> > group/organization.
> >
> > The hcard format gives us the ability to define an entity as an
> > organization. The XFN specification defines relationships between
> > individuals. Nothing in these microformats (or currently proposed
> > microformats) seems, however, to allow one to describe a list of
> > members
> in
> > an organization as well as the members' roles within it.
> >
> > I'm curious if there is information or discussion that have already
> > taken place, or if this is an idea for the group to consider?
> >
> > Thinking about it for a minute, I would see implications for:
> >
> > * Groups in social networks - Defining a list of members in a group,
> > as
> well
> > as each individual's role within the group (e.g. leader,
> > administrator, member, etc.).
> >
> > * Personal networks in social networks? Defining a list of members in
> > an individual's personal network, along with each indivdual's "role"
> (i.e.
> > relationship via XFN?) in the network.
> >
> > * Employees of an organization - An employee directory, for example,
> > indicating job title (i.e. function/role) in the organization.
> >
> > * Membership in real world groups - e.g. churches, schools, community
> > organizations etc., along with roles (e.g.
> > principal/administrator/teacher/student).
> >
> > * Other possible uses: groups of contacts in a contact database?
> > client lists? etc.?
> >
> > There would seem to be many examples in the wild where groups and
> > group membership are presented.
> >
> > My ability to think through actual hypothetical structures is
> probably
> more
> > limited than others on this list, though the first concept my mind
> > fixes
> is
> > on is the "feed" structure, where a parent feed has child entries.
> The
> above
> > concepts seemingly fits such a parent/child concept.
> >
> > That's about where I run out of steam, and am mostly curious about
> > what others think rather than continuing to babble. Thanks for any
> > thoughts and/or assistance from the group.
> >
> > [FYI, the thinking I'm doing on this particular topic is in advance
> of
> some
> > reworking my company is doing on its existing niche social networking
> > service. I'm pushing for greater structure (and use of microformats)
> > on
> our
> > content and entities. The above "groups/memberships" concept is the
> > one
> area
> > that I have yet to find a place where an existing or proposed
> > microformat
> is
> > relevant.]
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Jim Dalton
> > jim at ere.net
> >
> >
> >
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> 
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