[uf-discuss] "Behavior" and microformats

Chris Messina chris.messina at gmail.com
Tue Mar 28 08:13:24 PST 2006

The best thing about tags as far as resiliency goes is name-spacing
and context.

Whereas metatags where never available to the end user and could be
easily spammed, tags used in websites, especially blogs and sites like
Flickr, have a use that extends beyond spiders -- that is,
navigational purposes.

Consider this on my blog: http://factoryjoe.com/blog/archives/

If I had spammed my tags, that device would be useless to my audience.
At the same time, maybe I spammed my metatags, but you'd never know

In that respect I think that tags, from a publisher perspective, will
be more resilient because you're incented to keep them tidy for your

And, w/r/t CSS-hidden tags and so on... I believe that most engines
have become smart enough to penalize sites that engage in such
practices generally -- adding tags would therefore be no better than
your typical word spam, since that content would likely be ignored


On 3/28/06, Michael Stillwell <mjs at beebo.org> wrote:
> On 3/27/06, Chris Messina <chris.messina at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Funny, I was actually discussing this with Tantek and David weekly
> > about how Microformats + Behavior + Wikis are the next frontier...
> Will robots parse Javascript-generated microformats?  I was thinking
> of writing some Javascript to generate rel-tag from the <meta
> name="keywords"> elements that have been embedded in my pages all
> these years, but decided that there's not much point since only humans
> will see it.
> I thought briefly about doing it server-side in PHP, but I eventually
> gave up on the idea because: (a) doing it in PHP was going to be more
> of a hassle and; (b) I don't see how rel-tag is going to endure any
> more than meta keywords ever did.
> What's the thinking on rel-tag survivability versus meta keywords?
> The wiki page says that in being visible, rel-tag will be "somewhat
> more resilient" than meta keywords.  This is probably true, but it's
> not particularly reassuring.  (Have there been any sightings of tags
> being hidden via CSS/Javascript?)  I not having much luck finding
> anything about this in the mailing lists either, though I imagine this
> must have been discussed at some point--any pointers?
> Cheers,
> Michael
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