[uf-discuss] Re: Sanity check on hCard usage

[Tantek Ç elik]

John,

You can make it even more useful since *you* know that the nickname is an
*AIM screen name*.

Hint: 

http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-examples#AOL_Instant_Messenger_.28AIM.29

Tantek


On 5/24/06 9:11 AM, "John Panzer" <jpanzer at aol.net> wrote:

> OK, so this
> 
> <span class="fn">ChattingChuck</span>
> 
> would produce a blank N, but the implied nickname rule would kick in to
> produce nickname:ChattingChuck?
> 
> If so, then the remaining question is:  Is this useful enough to mark up
> as an hcard? There's not much you can do with the nickname without more
> context except display it.
> 
> 
> brian suda wrote:
> 
>> Actually, the ONLY property that is mandatory is FN (and the root class
>> of vcard). The N property can be extracted from an FN (when possible).
>> So in the example you would need:
>> 
>> <li class="vcard"><span class="fn nickname">ChattingChuck</span></li>
>> 
>> There is also an implied-nickname rule that if a FN is only one word
>> long it is used. So class="nickname" is redundant.
>> 
>> In this case since there is no explicit N, and since the FN does not
>> meet the implied N rule, the N value in the final output will be N:;;;;;
>> (blank)
>> 
>> -brian
>> 
>> 
>> Chris Messina wrote:
>>  
>> 
>>> I think in order to validate, you need to supply at least the 'n'
>>> value, even if the screenname is not the actual "name":
>>> 
>>> <li class="vcard"><span class="n nickname">ChattingChuck</span></li>
>>> 
>>> On the other hand, I don't know if you *should* mark up those
>>> fragments as hcards given the 'n' requirement... I think it's good to
>>> be semantic to the last drop, but I think Tantek's advice on this
>>> issue would help: how little data can substantiate hcard markup?
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> On 5/23/06, John Panzer <jpanzer at aol.net> wrote:
>>>    
>>> 
>>>> All,
>>>> 
>>>> I have a use case for displaying lists of people (readers of a blog)
>>>> which seems reasonable to mark up using XOXO and hCard.  However, in at
>>>> least some of the cases the only piece of information I have about a
>>>> user is their login ID, which is an AOL/AIM 'screen name'.  Is this a
>>>> reasonable minimal hCard markup for these cases?
>>>> 
>>>> <li class="vcard"><span class="nickname">ChattingChuck</span></li>
>>>> 
>>>> Two questions here: (1) is "nickname" the right way to say this and (2)
>>>> is this sufficient to be a reasonable if minimal hCard?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> John Panzer
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