[uf-discuss] hCalendar spec- no specification included!

Mike Schinkel mikeschinkel at gmail.com
Wed Oct 18 15:43:57 PDT 2006


Benjamin:

As one data point, I learned about Microformats[1] at a conference[2]. When
I came to the site I wanted to learn how to author them.  In addition, I
wanted to learn how to get involved in the process of specifying new ones
(although I doubt only a small percentage will be interested in that.)

-Mike
[1] http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blog/MicroformatsHCard.aspx
[2]
http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blog/CarsonWorkshopsFutureOfWebAppsConferenceWas
Incredible.aspx


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[mailto:microformats-discuss-bounces at microformats.org] On Behalf Of Benjamin
West
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 1:00 PM
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar spec- no specification included!

Justin,

Would you mind visiting
<http://microformats.org/wiki/to-do#Information_Architecture> and adding
your support?

While we're on the subject of newbies, if they first hear about microformats
from the sources you mentioned, what kind of people are they? Are they
graphic designers? Web developers?  Business people?
It appears that microformat newbies are the kind of people that go to
conventions.

What do these people expect when they visit for the first time?  Most web
browsing is task-oriented.  Do they want to find out how to author
microformats?  Learn more about what they are?  Find out why they exist?

Ben

On 10/18/06, Justin Thorp <juth at loc.gov> wrote:
> I really like this idea.  What if the landing page for the microformat
wasn't the spec but it was some warm and fuzzy intro for newbies?  It could
then link to the spec for those that were interested to it.
>
> A good example of this would be the W3C WAI's intro for WCAG that they
give you before you get sent right into WCAG 1.0.
> http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/wcag
>
> I would expect that a lot of newbies start off hearing about microformats
on tutorials like:
> http://www.digital-web.com/articles/microformats_primer/
> http://www.thinkvitamin.com/features/design/how-to-use-microformats
>
> Or from presentations like:
> http://tantek.com/presentations/2006/09/microformats-practices/
>
> They get linked to the spec and then get offly confused.
>
> -justin thorp
>
> ******************
> Justin Thorp
> Web Services - Office of Strategic Initiatives Library of Congress e - 
> juth at loc.gov p - 202/707-9541
>
> >>> andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk 10/17/06 3:39 PM >>>
> In message
> <8ad71be30610161404q2e9e9df0l10bd008032dcc182 at mail.gmail.com>, 
> Benjamin West <bewest at gmail.com> writes
>
> >Regarding the specs bit, I meant to refer to the various stages of 
> >the process.  The spec landing page might contain the big questions, 
> >with a status section pointing to pages dedicated toward how the spec 
> >is moving through the process, and with the "learn more" section 
> >pointed at the spec itself.
>
> If the "spec itself" is on a secondary page, then the "landing" page 
> isn't the spec.
>
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