[uf-discuss] Social Media Group?

Chris Messina chris.messina at gmail.com
Fri Sep 15 01:10:48 PDT 2006


I'd love to hear other opinions on this, particularly since I tend to
live in the idealosphere and haven't been in technology for 20 years
(though I've seen the IP battles play out or continue to play out in
the media).

Chris

On 9/15/06, Don Park <donpark at docuverse.com> wrote:
> Well, IMHO:
>
> 1. The concept of 'microformat community' is fuzzy and vulnerable to
> exploitation.
>
> 2. Like it or not, 'microformat' and 'hSomething' have brand values, thanks
> to past and future efforts to publicize 'microformat' by this group, and is
> worth protecting against dilution and confusion as well as exploitation.
>
> 3. Prevention is less messy than defense.
>
> Anyway, I gave my two cents worth so I'll shutup now.
>
> - Don
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:microformats-discuss-bounces at microformats.org] On Behalf Of Chris
> Messina
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 12:44 PM
> To: Microformats Discuss
> Subject: Re: RE: [uf-discuss] Social Media Group?
>
> We could, but I don't know if it's that a big of a deal.
>
> I mean, the community will dictate what gets adopted and what doesn't.
> Implementation is a much better "seal of approval" enforcement that going
> for real legal protection. IMHO.
>
> ;)
>
> Chris
>
> On 9/14/06, Don Park <donpark at docuverse.com> wrote:
> > My advice is to get some legal protection and introduce 'seal of approval'
> > as an option so microformats can be created outside the group as well.
> > Otherwise, this will happen over and over. - Don
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: microformats-discuss-bounces at microformats.org
> > [mailto:microformats-discuss-bounces at microformats.org] On Behalf Of
> > Chris Messina
> > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 10:43 AM
> > To: Microformats Discuss
> > Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Social Media Group?
> >
> > I'm not involved with it, but I'm aware of it.
> >
> > This is Chris Heuer's project.
> >
> > I don't quite see how this is a microformat in the community sense
> > though the goals are similar. In some ways, it's kind of like the
> > hWidget project that was developed outside the microformats community
> > and process, which, as we've seen, has resulted in lesser adoption.
> >
> > I don't quite understand why they're working outside the microformats
> > community, except that it's not the traditional folks who work on
> > standards or webdev who are involved (i.e. PR firms).
> >
> > I do take issue with the way that they're going about building out
> > this work and calling it a microformat; in some respects, this is
> > where, as a community mark, the microformats community should make
> > clear how it feels about work of this nature being called a
> > "microformat" that has exclusivity baked into its community model:
> >
> > "Membership in the working group is subject to approval by the Social
> > Media Club advisory board"
> >
> > Their wiki is here: http://www.socialtext.net/hrelease/index.cgi
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > On 9/14/06, Ryan King <ryan at technorati.com> wrote:
> > > Just found via a google alert:
> > >
> > > http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=162010
> > >
> > > > SILICON VALLEY, CA -- (MARKET WIRE) -- September 12, 2006 -- On
> > > > the heels of its official launch, Social Media Club (SMC) formed
> > > > the Media Release Working Group to develop the hRelease, a new
> > > > standard for modernizing the traditional press release for a
> Web-centric world.
> > > >
> > > > The Media Release Working Group will work closely with the
> > > > Microformats community, while evaluating other technologies such
> > > > as XPRL, XBRL and NewsML to establish a standard way of
> > > > organizing, tagging, distributing and sharing "official"
> > > > organizational communications among blogs and other online
> > > > communities. The group intends to present an initial draft
> > > > specification on Nov. 2 at the Society for New Communications Research
> Symposium in Boston.
> > >
> > > ... and so on...
> > >
> > > I know there's been discussions of this "social media release"
> > > elsewhere on the interweb, but is there anyone here who's involved
> > > in the process?
> > >
> > > -ryan
> > > --
> > > Ryan King
> > > ryan at technorati.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
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