[uf-discuss] abbr with empty or no title (was: Re: marking up initials in names)

Andy Mabbett andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk
Tue Jan 1 08:42:42 PST 2008

In message <m2k5muvj65.fsf at gmail.com>, Edward O'Connor
<hober0 at gmail.com> writes

>Andy Mabbett wrote:
>> I have a need to mark up some people's names, which are given as
>> initials only, and where the full names for which those initials stand
>> are not known. For example, "A. N. Other".
>> In the absence of an "initials" property, how would you mark up such a
>> name, in an hCard?
>How about <abbr> without @title?

Semantically, that might make sense (and is valid HTML), but how would
parsers handle missing titles, given the abbr-design-pattern? [1]

There is still the issue of what class names are most apt, though.

[1] Two examples at the start of:


which Operator handles (plaudits due!) but for which X2V returns null

Is this something else which needs clarifying and codifying in the
abbr-design-pattern spec?

I've added it to the issues page:


Andy Mabbett

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