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2011-04-06T11:05:30Z

Andr3: /* Missing data/Wrong encoding */ Adding a vote/report.

<entry-title>H2VX</entry-title>
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<dfn>[http://h2vx.com H2VX]</dfn> is a production deployment of the [[X2V]] hCard and hCalendar conversion transforms.

It converts [[hCard]] contacts and [[hCalendar]] events on web pages to .vcf and .ics respectively for use in desktop and other client software applications.

== documentation ==
To convert hCards to vCards, go http://h2vx.com/vcf/ and enter the URL to the hCards.

To convert hCalendar to iCalendar, go http://h2vx.com/ics/ and enter the URL to the hCalendar events.

=== URLs ===
Links to H2VX.com to convert a URL (like <nowiki>http://microformats.org/wiki/events</nowiki> ) can be constructed as follows:

You may omit the leading "http://" from the URL to be converted for a briefer more readable URL:

;download vCards from hCards
:<kbd><nowiki>http://h2vx.com/vcf/URL</nowiki></kbd>
:e.g. <kbd><nowiki>http://h2vx.com/vcf/microformats.org/wiki/events</nowiki></kbd>
;download iCalendar from hCalendar
:<kbd><nowiki>http://h2vx.com/ics/URL</nowiki></kbd>
:e.g. <kbd><nowiki>http://h2vx.com/ics/microformats.org/wiki/events</nowiki></kbd>
;subscribe to hCalendar from hCalendar
:<kbd><nowiki>webcal://h2vx.com/ics/URL</nowiki></kbd>
:e.g. <kbd><nowiki>webcal://h2vx.com/ics/microformats.org/wiki/events</nowiki></kbd>
:<kbd><nowiki>http://h2vx.com/ics/sub/URL</nowiki></kbd> for systems which don't support auto-linking of webcal: URLs, e.g. MediaWiki, Twitter.
:e.g. <kbd><nowiki>http://h2vx.com/ics/sub/microformats.org/wiki/events</nowiki></kbd>

=== user agent strings ===
H2VX uses two user agent strings, when retrieving hCards and hCalendars respectively:
* <samp><nowiki>H2VX contacts proxy (http://h2vx.com/vcf/)</nowiki></samp>
* <samp><nowiki>H2VX events proxy (http://h2vx.com/ics/)</nowiki></samp>
You may see occurrences of these in your web server logs when users of H2VX convert hCards and hCalendar events on your pages.

=== built ===
H2VX is built and maintained by [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] with:
* [[X2V]] XSLTs by [[User:Brian|Brian Suda]]
* PHP get-contact.php get-cal.php originally written by Brian, updated/factored by Tantek with various improvements. [[to-do]]: open source these.
* PHP common.php (and Javascript common.js) by Tantek which incorporate CASSISv0 open source from http://cassisproject.com/
* XHTML1+CSS+JS front-end design/interface by Tantek (view source of h2vx.com in your browser for more).

== feedback ==
Have feedback on H2VX? Feel free to add to the top of this list and use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to sign your name and date your comment. If this grows too big we can move it to [[h2vx-feedback]]

* Have been getting an error where it says that its a "empty document; no HTML can be found" from [https://arjw.ifmw.mobi/index.php my site]. As with the comment below, there are no issues with using Operator to extract. I used to use this service a good while ago, but since moving to PHP/HTML5 for this page, I'm getting this error. [[User:ARJWright|Antoine RJ Wright]] 04:17:49, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
* The last few days I've not been able to retrieve vCards from hCards on [http://www.marinersmexico.com/contact/ this site] using H2VX yet Operator is nicely extracting them. Comments and insights appreciated. [[User:ChipD|ChipD]] 05:13, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
* Can't seem to get #hcard-ids working with the /referrer option. [[User:Jnpcl|Jnpcl]] 00:01, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
** Could you provide the URL you are having trouble with? [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 18:51, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
* It would be very useful to be able to POST or GET an HTML snippet to request a conversion. I have created a Javascript button that will easily rip out the code and send it to H2VX.com: http://1daylater.com/H2VX_snippets.html useful for dynamic or password protected webpages
* As a Web page author I find the H2XV site a bit awkward to use -- it's difficult to find the URLs to use in my Web page. As an end-user it fine to have the H2VX bookmarklets in my toolbar, but as a page author I can't be sure everyone has the bookmarklets or Operator installed. [[User:Bob Jonkman|Bob Jonkman]] 00:56, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
* "Also, a short 'about' page would be worthwhile IMO, especially for adding to the homepage." - Norm on microformats-discuss.
* ...

== issues ==
Found a problem with H2VX? Please note it here at the top of this list (consider grouping it under an existing subhead or introduce a new subhead if necessary) and use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to sign your name and date your comment. If this grows too big we can move it to [[h2vx-issues]]

=== Date incorrect when not using abbr element for dtstart ===

I had a date marked up like so Wednesday, October 20, 2010. It was not being parsed correctly until I changed it to use <abbr>, but the element shouldn't really make any difference.

=== .vcf not formed properly ===

When opening the resultant .vcf files with Outlook, all non-standard characters are not shown correctly, due to the fact that the returned file is not encoded as UTF-8 without the BOM. Thus, these files are useless for use with Outlook - one of the most used e-mail clients.

Can we get a UTF-8 file returned without the BOM?

=== Missing data/Wrong encoding ===

* We'd like to use your service for the new version of our location list ([http://www.freewave.at/en/ Free WiFi Hotspots in Austria]) but ran into problems:
** After importing the vCard, the Mac OS X Address book showed only the phone number (not as work), the URL, zip code and city. No name and no street.
** The vCard itself is encoded in ISO-8859-1, although having “CHARSET=utf-8” instructions. The source is also encoded in UTF-8.
** Here's the HTML code, we've been using:
<source lang=html4strict>
<div class="vcard">
<h2 class="fn org"><img class="photo" src="http://static.freewave.at/logos/testa_rossa_caffe_150.gif" alt="Testa Rossa Caffèbar Logo" />Testa Rossa Caffèbar</h2>
<div class="adr work">Mahlerstraße 4 
1010 Wien 
Österreich</div>
<div>+43 699 161 616 61 
<a class="url work" href="http://www.testarossawien.at/">http://www.testarossawien.at/</a> 
<a class="email work" href="mailto:"></a></div>
<div class="geo">48.20275,16.37079</div>
</div>
</source>

Thanks! --[[User:Vividvisions|Vividvisions]] 17:25, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

I got the same type of problem with non ASCII content. Don't know which part is responsible, though. --[[User:jlgeering|Jean-Luc Geering]] 2010-05-10

+1, I was coaching the dudes at http://hagreve.com/ implementing hCalendar and they reached the roadblock of having the accented chars wrongly encoded on the .ics They resorted to using other ways of building an ics. :sadface:
Thanks. -- [[User:andr3|andr3]]

=== HTML5 support ===
* <code><meta charset=utf-8></code> isn't recognized so the output is double encoded. [[User:Greut|Greut]] 11:12, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
* new HTML5 elements (such as header, footer, section) are not supported (this is because they are stripped out by PHP Tidy and thus ignored). [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 16:13, 19 January 2010 (UTC) possible solutions:
** UPDATE: new HTML5 elements and time datetime preliminary support added to http://dev.h2vx.com/ - try it out - give feedback!

<div class="discussion">
'''Please give feedback on the http://dev.h2vx.com/ HTML5 support here:'''

Is there a timeout/throttling on requests to dev.h2vx? I've been getting inconsistent returns on ics and webcal requests from the same markup. Don't know what else could be the issue. When it works, it works great though!

* ...
</div>

Previously:
* Possible options
** 1. Use a proper PHP html5lib (being coded by the HTML5 community, but not available/functional yet AFAIK) - still might do this long term.
** 2. Add a flag to the H2VX processing URL which says "I'm a crazy XML person and my markup is 100% well formed XML, please don't tidy, please break and fail to process if it's not well formed".
** in either case, new special HTML5 elements (like time) will require an update to [[X2V]] to know to properly handle/parse new semantic attributes (like datetime).

=== mouse events ===
* The "what are microformats?" style descriptions only appear on mouse-over of the trigger terms (those with class="term"). It does not appear at all when keyboard navigation is used, making it somewhat inaccessible. The problem here is that the trigger elements are the ones that should receive focus, but not being links they are not in the tabbing order so do not, hence the helper text never appears for keyboard users. [[User:Norm|Norm]] 10:39, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
** Quick fix: remove '''visibility:hidden''' from '''.term .info'''. [[User:Andr3|Andr3]]

=== page semantics ===
* should be made into 's for semantic reasons. ;) [[User:Andr3|Andr3]]
** Note that the <code></code> element is used deliberately for "instance" of a term - this is an [[HTML5]] semantic, and is more accurate in this instance than "em"phasis. — [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 18:29, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

=== not possible to use dtstart with timezone in abbr title ===
* Adding a timezone to dtstart using abbr pattern leads to The Shining-style debug output repeating “Object is a string”. I tried adding a time with timezone via the value class pattern, and while the vcard downloads the time is incorrect ~~[[User:Oli|Oli]] 00:53 15 February 2010 (+09:00)
** Oli, could you provide a URL to a live example/test case that you were using so we can test with it to try to see exactly what is going on? Thanks! [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:35, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

=== resolved ===
Resolved issues are moved to this section. If this grows too big we can move it to [[h2vx-issues-resolved]]
* ...

* 2009-11-11 We were using the Technorati hosted service. Surprised to see it redirected to H2XV, took a minute to realize what was going on. Thanks for picking up the service! Both the hosting provider and the new user agent are blocked by default on our side to prevent scraping. To be more transparent, maybe you could change the UA similar to the old one: from <nowiki>"Technorati contacts proxy (http://technorati.com/contacts/)"</nowiki> to <nowiki>"H2VX contacts proxy (http://h2vx.com/vcf/)"</nowiki> [[User:DineMonkey|DineMonkey]] 15:47, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
** I've updated the user agent strings per your recommendation and documented them above as well. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 18:29, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
*** <nowiki>H2VX contacts proxy (http://h2vx.com/vcf/)</nowiki>
*** <nowiki>H2VX events proxy (http://h2vx.com/ics/)</nowiki>

=== closed ===
Once a resolved issue has no further actions (and ideally is verified by the issue reporter), it can be closed and moved to this section. If this grows too big we can move it to [[h2vx-issues-closed]]
* 2009-11-04 It would be good to have the option to pass "referer" instead of a URL. [[User:Adactio|Adactio]] 10:47, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
** http://h2vx.com/vcf/referrer and http://h2vx.com/ics/referrer are now up and running. Example of /vcf/referrer is live on http://tantek.com/ and the alternate spelling /vcf/referer is used live on http://clearleft.com/ - as such, closing this issue. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 20:25, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
* ...

== see also ==
* [[X2V]]
* [[hCard]]
* [[hCalendar]]
* [[implementations]]

events/2011-03-14-future-of-microformats

2011-03-14T15:49:43Z

Andr3: /* Q&A */ typo

<entry-title>The Future of Microformats - SXSW Interactive 2011</entry-title>
__TOC__
One of several microformats [[events]].

<div class="event-page vevent">
== Details ==
;When
:2011-03-14 from 15:30
;Where
:Austin Convention Center, 500 E Cesar Chavez Street, Austin, Texas 78701 USA
;What
:The Future of Microformats - SXSW Interactive Session
;Web
:http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/7697872/
:http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=199322750085180
:http://plancast.com/p/3q33
:http://austin2011.sched.org/event/7fd1f13aec1a51466384a986cf6da1b3

'''[http://h2vx.com/ics/microformats.org/wiki/events/2011-03-14-future-of-microformats Add this event to your calendar]''' http://www.boogdesign.com/images/buttons/microformat_hcalendar.png

== Summary ==
<div class="description">Google, via its rich snippets, has reported that microformats has a 94% usage share (as compared with RDFa etc.). So how does the future look for microformats? In this session, we'll look closely at real problems with implementing microformats in [[HTML5]] and how this can be done, and whether there will be a continuing place for them. We'll also look at emerging technologies and techniques, such as [[RelMeAuth]] and discuss advanced user techniques.

== Tags ==
Use the following tags on related content (blog posts, photos, [http://twitter.com tweets]):

tags:
<kbd class="tags" style="display:block">
'''microformats-session'''
'''futuremf'''
microformats-meetup
microformats
austin
tx
texas
sxsw
sxswi
sxsw2011
sxswi2011
''microformats-session-2011-03-14''
''upcoming:event=7697872''
</kbd>

If you use Twitter, mention ''@microformats''' in tweets about the event, and track them on [http://search.twitter.com/search?q=microformats Twitter Search].

== Attendees ==
Add yourself alphabetically sorted by family name if you plan on attending or attended this event.

* [[User:Phae|Frances Berriman]]
* [[User:Tantek|Tantek Çelik]]
* [[User:YourName|You]]
* ...

== Notes ==

Topics Discussed:

* ...

== Q&A ==

Not going to be in the panel or too shy to step up to the mic? Add your question below by 2pm on the day, or email frances@fberriman.com, or tweet us using the hashtag #futuremf
* Question... From Your Name
* Q: What are the most creative and inspiring uses you've seen, from all this Webby data? (Sorry I can't be there to ask in person...) -- Dan Brickley
* Q: Nowadays, we have to choose the *format* in which we add semantics to our pages or fall into a vortex of repetition. Microformats, rdfa, pure rdf and/or microdata. What will be microformat's (project, community) role in the near future? Be responsible for the vocabularies used in microdata or be an alternative to microdata? -- andr3

== Photographs ==

* Search for photographs from this event on Flickr: [http://flickr.com/photos/tags/microformats-session-2011-03-14 Photographs tagged microformats-session-2011-03-14] or for [http://flickr.com/photos/tags/microformats-session all photographs from microformats sessions].

''Add a photograph from this event here''.

== Articles and Blog Posts ==
Articles and blog posts following up on the meetup. Add a link to your post in the list below:

* ...

Also, find posts on this meetup on [http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=microformats-session-2011-03-14 Google Blog Search] or [http://technorati.com/search/microformats-session-2011-03-14 Technorati].

</div> 

== Related Pages==
{{events-related-pages}}

events/2011-03-14-future-of-microformats

2011-03-13T20:33:41Z

Andr3: /* Q&A */ Adding a question for the panel.

<entry-title>The Future of Microformats - SXSW Interactive 2011</entry-title>
__TOC__
One of several microformats [[events]].

<div class="event-page vevent">
== Details ==
;When
:2011-03-14 from 15:30
;Where
:Austin Convention Center, 500 E Cesar Chavez Street, Austin, Texas 78701 USA
;What
:The Future of Microformats - SXSW Interactive Session
;Web
:http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/7697872/
:http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=199322750085180
:http://plancast.com/p/3q33
:http://austin2011.sched.org/event/7fd1f13aec1a51466384a986cf6da1b3

'''[http://h2vx.com/ics/microformats.org/wiki/events/2011-03-14-future-of-microformats Add this event to your calendar]''' http://www.boogdesign.com/images/buttons/microformat_hcalendar.png

== Summary ==
<div class="description">Google, via its rich snippets, has reported that microformats has a 94% usage share (as compared with RDFa etc.). So how does the future look for microformats? In this session, we'll look closely at real problems with implementing microformats in [[HTML5]] and how this can be done, and whether there will be a continuing place for them. We'll also look at emerging technologies and techniques, such as [[RelMeAuth]] and discuss advanced user techniques.

== Tags ==
Use the following tags on related content (blog posts, photos, [http://twitter.com tweets]):

tags:
<kbd class="tags" style="display:block">
'''microformats-session'''
'''futuremf'''
microformats-meetup
microformats
austin
tx
texas
sxsw
sxswi
sxsw2011
sxswi2011
''microformats-session-2011-03-14''
''upcoming:event=7697872''
</kbd>

If you use Twitter, mention ''@microformats''' in tweets about the event, and track them on [http://search.twitter.com/search?q=microformats Twitter Search].

== Attendees ==
Add yourself alphabetically sorted by family name if you plan on attending or attended this event.

* [[User:Phae|Frances Berriman]]
* [[User:Tantek|Tantek Çelik]]
* [[User:YourName|You]]
* ...

== Notes ==

Topics Discussed:

* ...

== Q&A ==

Not going to be in the panel or too shy to step up to the mic? Add your question below by 2pm on the day, or email frances@fberriman.com
* Question... From Your Name
* Q: What are the most creative and inspiring uses you've seen, from all this Webby data? (Sorry I can't be there to ask in person...) -- Dan Brickley
* Q: Nowadays, we have to choose the *format* in which they add semantics to our page or fall in a vortex of repetition. Microformats, rdfa, pure rdf and/or microdata. What will be microformat's (project, community) role in the near future? Be responsibile for the vocabularies used in microdata? Or be an alternative to microdata? -- andr3

== Photographs ==

* Search for photographs from this event on Flickr: [http://flickr.com/photos/tags/microformats-session-2011-03-14 Photographs tagged microformats-session-2011-03-14] or for [http://flickr.com/photos/tags/microformats-session all photographs from microformats sessions].

''Add a photograph from this event here''.

== Articles and Blog Posts ==
Articles and blog posts following up on the meetup. Add a link to your post in the list below:

* ...

Also, find posts on this meetup on [http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=microformats-session-2011-03-14 Google Blog Search] or [http://technorati.com/search/microformats-session-2011-03-14 Technorati].

</div> 

== Related Pages==
{{events-related-pages}}

h2vx

2009-11-06T11:10:30Z

Andr3: Adding a quick fix for one issue. Adding another issue.

<entry-title>H2VX</entry-title>
__TOC__
{{stub}}

<dfn>[http://h2vx.com H2VX]</dfn> is a production deployment of the [[X2V]] hCard and hCalendar conversion transforms.

It converts [[hCard]] contacts and [[hCalendar]] events on web pages to .vcf and .ics respectively for use in desktop and other client software applications.

== feedback ==
Have feedback on H2VX? Feel free to add to the top of this list and use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to sign your name and date your comment. If this grows too big we can move it to [[h2vx-feedback]]
* "Also, a short 'about' page would be worthwhile IMO, especially for adding to the homepage." - Norm on microformats-discuss.
* ...

== issues ==
Found a problem with H2VX? Please note it here at the top of this list and use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to sign your name and date your comment. If this grows too big we can move it to [[h2vx-issues]]
* The "what are microformats?" style descriptions only appear on mouse-over of the trigger terms (those with class="term"). It does not appear at all when keyboard navigation is used, making it somewhat inaccessible. The problem here is that the trigger elements are the ones that should receive focus, but not being links they are not in the tabbing order so do not, hence the helper text never appears for keyboard users. [[User:Norm|Norm]] 10:39, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
** Quick fix: remove '''visibility:hidden''' from '''.term .info'''. [[User:Andr3|Andr3]]

* should be made into 's for semantic reasons. ;) [[User:Andr3|Andr3]]

=== resolved ===
Resolved issues are moved to this section. If this grows too big we can move it to [[h2vx-issues-resolved]]
* ...

=== closed ===
Once a resolved issue has no further actions (and ideally is verified by the issue reporter), it can be closed and moved to this section. If this grows too big we can move it to [[h2vx-issues-closed]]
* It would be good to have the option to pass "referer" instead of a URL. [[User:Adactio|Adactio]] 10:47, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
** http://h2vx.com/vcf/referrer and http://h2vx.com/ics/referrer are now up and running. Example of /vcf/referrer is live on http://tantek.com/ and the alternate spelling /vcf/referer is used live on http://clearleft.com/ - as such, closing this issue. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 20:25, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
* ...

== see also ==
* [[X2V]]
* [[hCard]]
* [[hCalendar]]
* [[implementations]]

WYSIWYG-plugins

2009-07-06T22:05:45Z

Andr3: /* FCKEditor */

This is a list of WYSIWYG editors and the plugins to be developed and translated so that it is easy to add microformats into CMS systems.

==TinyMCE==
* Homepage link
* Developer notes
* Plugins to Create
** rel-license
** rel-tag
** (more)

==FCKEditor==
* [http://www.fckeditor.net/ Homepage]
* [http://docs.fckeditor.net/FCKeditor_2.x/Developers_Guide Developer notes]
* Notes: has a 3.x version under development.

==(more???)==
* Homepage link
* Developer notes

=Icons=
We will need some standardized icon styles for these buttons. Recommendations? Styles?

WYSIWYG-plugins

2009-07-06T22:05:18Z

Andr3: adding fckeditor

This is a list of WYSIWYG editors and the plugins to be developed and translated so that it is easy to add microformats into CMS systems.

==TinyMCE==
* Homepage link
* Developer notes
* Plugins to Create
** rel-license
** rel-tag
** (more)

==FCKEditor==
* [[http://www.fckeditor.net/ Homepage]]
* [[http://docs.fckeditor.net/FCKeditor_2.x/Developers_Guide Developer notes]]
* Notes: has a 3.x version under development.

==(more???)==
* Homepage link
* Developer notes

=Icons=
We will need some standardized icon styles for these buttons. Recommendations? Styles?

value-class-pattern-issues

2008-11-07T16:38:26Z

Andr3: adding a (possible) problem

<h1>Value Excerption Pattern Issues</h1>

Open issues concerning the parsing of the value excerption pattern.

{{TOC-right}}

==Open Issues==

These issues are awaiting resolution and reflection in the specification, but may not be blockers on the implementation of the specification.

===Excluded Fields===

There seem to be some properties within which value excerpting is NOT allowed (or ''should not'' be allowed!) e.g. "type" in hCard. [[User:TobyInk|TobyInk]] 07:38, 22 May 2008 (PDT)
* You mean <code>type</code> as a sub-property of <code>tel</code>? That's one of the identified [[machine-data]] items that needs a means of including the publisher's choice text along with the microformat specified one. Not to conflate two separate issues, but just noting that separation of <code>type</code> text and <code>type value</code> needs to be handled somewhere, and value-excerption-pattern ''could'' be considered as part of the solution. [[User:BenWard|BenWard]] 07:54, 22 May 2008 (PDT)
* Some fields make sense to exclude this, as it seems unintuitive, and can be used to avoid many of nested-microformat problems that may avoid a messier mfo pattern. E.g. <code>entry-summary</code> and <code>entry-content</code> in [[hAtom]], both could very feasibly have nested formats or any kind, but doesn't strike me as useful to segregate into "value" at all. [[User:BenWard|BenWard]] 10:41, 6 Jun 2008 (PDT)
* Total other alternative, make value-excerption opt-in. Would need a bit of effort to go through all the specs and clarify, but actually might make more sense. It's a useful pattern for some properties (especially those with data patterns). [[User:BenWard|BenWard]] 10:41, 6 Jun 2008 (PDT)
* Setting the rules over depth-of-parsing (see below) to children-only would obviate the remaining need for this issue.

===White-space behaviour when concatenating value nodes===

We specify that no characters get inserted between concatenated occurrences of ‘value’. Need to audit all properties to ensure that this behaviour would be correct in all cases.

Possibly specify that individual properties can override this behaviour, specifying a separator character. Possibly specify that this should be a provision of parsing implementations, so as to maintain flexibility for future publishing.

===Depth of Parsing===

Currently any descendent is parsed, which causes issues if a microformat field using the value-excerption-pattern is nested within another.

Example:

<pre><div class="hentry vevent">
<h1 class="entry-title summary">Party on Sunday!</h1>
<div class="updated published">Tuesday 2008-06-17</div>
We're having a party on Sunday, at 7pm!
2008-06-22T19:00:00+0100. Please bring your friends!
</div></pre>

In this example, hAtom and hCalendar are interleaved. The DTSTART property of the event is contained within the entry-content of the hAtom entry, using the value-excerption-pattern to include the machine-data datetime. However, with full descendent parsing, the hAtom model will come out as the following:

<pre>ENTRY
ENTRY-TITLE=Party on Sunday!
UPDATED= 2008-06-17
PUBLISHED=2008-06-17
ENTRY-CONTENT=2008-06-22T19:00:00+0100
</pre>

* e.g. an [[hCalendar]] <code>vevent</code> nested inside [[hAtom]] <code>entry-content</code> must not result in <code>entry-content</code> parsing as <code>20080627T12:34:00+100</code>.
* e.g. [[hCalendar]] defines <code>organizer</code>, which may be an [[hCard]], which may have a <code>tel</code> property containing a sub-property <code>value</code>. Under these parsing rules, the entire <code>organizer</code> field would be parsed as the telephone number.

* [http://buzzword.org.uk/cognition/ Cognition] copes with this OK -- the organizer is parsed as a full contact with an hCard - not just a number. [[User:TobyInk|TobyInk]] 07:38, 22 May 2008 (PDT)
** Ah, but if a parser were written just as an hCalendar parser, with no hCard support? Cognition already understands that hCard is something special. [[User:BenWard|BenWard]] 07:54, 22 May 2008 (PDT)
*** Hence [[mfo]] [[User:TobyInk|TobyInk]] 11:19, 22 May 2008 (PDT)

Possible resolutions:

* Specify the <code>mfo</code> (‘microformat object’) class be used when nesting microformats, as a processing instruction to parsers not to parse unrelated nested items
* Specify that <code>value</code> must only be read from children, not from all descendants. Restrictive, unlikely to work for existing hCard TEL usage.
* Specify the above (<q>parse children, not all descendants), but allow individual properties (such as <code>tel</code> to override and parse all descendants. This would result in a parse-depth flag on all fields, and many getting overridden for all descendants, but again, seems to be a well structured solution. Property name dictionaries in parsers would have to include the depth flag with the property.
** This may break existing published microformats. [[User:TobyInk|TobyInk]] 07:25, 22 Jun 2008 (PDT)

===Parsing <code>title</code> from Empty <code>value</code> Elements===

As a solution to the invisible data requirements sometimes presented by [[machine-data]] in microformats, a parsing rule is proposed where the <code>value</code> element is empty (contains no non-whitespace characters), the <code>title</code> attribute instead be parsed.

e.g. <code>Tuesday the 24th at 6pm lt;/span></code>

Note that due to a quirk in parsers, this technique can already be used in some parsers where the empty <code>value</code> node is also an <code>abbr</code> element. That is semantically incorrect use of <code>abbr</code>, though.

====Resolution Notes====

* This is parsable, but needs to be specced precisely.
* Suggest restricting to instances where a single <code>value</code> element exists, e.g.
** Disallow concatenation of multiple non-visible embedded values
** Disallow embedded non-visible values from being appended to visible data.
* This pattern exists to solve the [[machine-data]] problem, and restricting it more will discourage it being mis-used for hiding other, useful data
** Restrict the value element to be the first-child (excluding white-space text-nodes) of a µf property element, forcing the data to be kept physically close to the µf property in code. Keeps data close, helps maintenance issues. Intends to alleviate some invisible data principal concerns.
** Require that only the machine-data value and its human form be contained within the microformat property; the µf property should not include arbitrary date
*** Include something to effect of ‘parsers may attempt to validate the human form against the machine form’ (PHP has a human date parsing function, for example)
** Restrict opt-in to specific properties. Do not allow it to be parsed globally. Fail parsers which implement it globally.
* Regarding accessibility, have confirmation that the empty element will be ignored (''Thank you'': James Craig, Gez Lemon, Bruce Lawson): “JAWS and Window-Eyes announce the title attribute
for an empty abbr is used and verbosity is set to ‘expand abbreviations’, but neither read the title attribute on an empty span.”
====Problems====

* '''Violates the microformats [[principle]] of visible data.''' Numerous previous efforts (e.g. markup in comments etc.) have walked down that path of "dark data" and failed in practice. We must hold ourselves to higher standards than any XML/RDF solution. It's part of what sets microformats apart from so many other failed efforts at data representation on the web. We must not go down the path of dark data. IMHO that principle is inviolable for [[microformats]]. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
** The approach here is that we have ''exceptional'' situations where we are requiring data to be duplicated for machines. They are exceptions which have existed in microformats since hCard, and this is a pattern to handle those exceptions and '''only''' those exceptions in response to the problems people have publishing them. The specification for this could be written to make it a per-property opt-in device, only for those properties identified above. ''This is not a ‘generic data embedding’ device'' and in line with the cited principals, should not be allowed to become one. --[[User:BenWard|BenWard]] 05:17, 25 Jun 2008 (PDT)
** An alternative, I suppose, would be to recognise all of the above data format examples as being in violation of the microformats principal, since authors are hiding them in favour of their own content. Every instance of fixed data formats in microformats that force authors to break the invisible data principal would need to be eliminated in favour of accessible, i18n compatible replacements, including those in hCard which are 1:1 mappings from vCard. We _could_ undertake that, but previous discussions (people being advised to misuse ABBR for translation of the vCard telephone types, for example) have already suggested that supporting the visible publishing is too complex. --[[User:BenWard|BenWard]] 05:17, 25 Jun 2008 (PDT)
** Additionally, the use of terms such as ‘dark data’ is inappropriate for this discussion, which is focused on functional, practical solutions to the identified problem. The term is emotive, and aggressive toward other, completely unrelated technologies (such as RDF) which is irrelevant to this solving this issue. Precisely, the machine-data in this technique is ‘non-visible machine-data’, and is being approached with specific regard to the microformats principal of ''design for humans first''. --[[User:BenWard|BenWard]] 05:34, 26 Jun 2008 (PDT)
* '''Worsens the [[principles#related|DRY]] violation''' by separating the human visible version and machine readable version into separate elements. Duplicate data itself is bad, but at least by keeping the duplicates local on the same element (as the existing abbr-pattern does), the risk of drift/divergence is reduced. The greater the distance in content of the duplicates, the greater the risk of drift/divergence, and thus the lower the quality of data. This has been illustrated by the divergence of invisible metadata in the head of a document versus the content in the body, and even more so across documents.
**The machine-data form is kept as a sibling of the human form, and in distance in code, is not much further away than the data stored on a single elements <code>title</code> attribute. Further, the specification for this could demand the value element be placed as the _first child_ of the parent property, forcing it to be published immediately after the property element. --[[User:BenWard|BenWard]] 05:17, 25 Jun 2008 (PDT)
* '''Some parsers may strip empty inline elements''' (particularly those that run incoming HTML through [http://tidy.sf.net Tidy] to convert it into well-formed XML). A workaround may be to allow (or even require) hard white space (i.e. <code>&nbsp;</code>) within the element with class='value".
**It is, however, trivial to patch and build Tidy not to do this (keeping empty elements where that element also has a class attribute). Parser writers need to feed back on whether using a custom build is impossible to their solution, but since Tidy can be made to work, the problem can likely be alleviated. Ben Ward has put up an experimental build of Tidy with patched element-dropping behaviour here: [http://ben-ward.co.uk/files/tidy-microformats.zip tidy-microformats.zip]
*** Tidy is not just used in parsers, but also by publishers, as part of CMSes, etc.
* '''WYSIWYG editors''' - this might present a problem in these editors in terms of allowing the user to change the value of the title of an empty span. Some of them allow editing title attributes of some elements, namely <A>, <IMG> and not much more. Needs to be properly researched, but is this an issue? Should we care about default WYSIWYG deployments? Or leave that for microformats-aware WYSIWYG versions, they would allow editing this span somehow... [User:Andr3|Andr3]] 04:38, 7 Nov 2008 (GMT)

===Parsing the value-excerption-pattern in combination with the ABBR-pattern===

How does <code><abbr class="value" title="Great">G</abbr> Britain</code> parse?

* The main issue with this example is the lack of any explicit whitespace between the values. Under present parsing rules, this will parse as "GreatBritain". [[User:TobyInk|TobyInk]] 15:20, 6 Jul 2008 (PDT)

==Closed Issues==

These issues are closed, and either dismissed with reason, or the specification has been updated in resolution.

===Nested <code>value</code>===

Should <code>Foo Bar</code> parse as <code>foo bar</code> or <code>bar</code>? Should <code>value</code> elements be allowed to be nested within <code>value</code> elements?

Resolution: Disallowed. Deemed complex to parse, and unnecessary when publishing.

==Related Pages==

* [[value-excerption-pattern]]
* [[machine-data]]

mobile

2008-09-12T12:29:58Z

Andr3: adding link to kaywa reader

<h1>mobile</h1>

'''This page is a stub and would benefit from your contributions!'''

{{TOC-right}}
Mobile and microformats make for a particularly powerful combination. Microformats help users complete more tasks with fewer steps, and requiring fewer steps is especially important in mobile applications. This page lists current known mobile support of microformats, and ideas/suggestions for mobile applications that could use microformats.

== mobile support ==
=== Treo ===
The Treo browser has good integration with the Treo address book and calendar.

* '''[[hCard]] support.''' Clicking on a "Add to Address Book" link (e.g. on [http://technorati.com/about/contact.html Technorati's contact page]) will prompt the user to add that [[hCard]] directly to their Treo address book.

* '''[[hCalendar]] support.''' Clicking on an "Add to Calendar" link (e.g. like on the [[events]] page) will prompt the user to add [[hCalendar]] events directly to their Treo calendar. (Note: the "Subscribe to" links that use <code>webcal:</code> do not appear to currently work on the Treo.)

=== BlackBerry ===
No support for hCard/vCard/hCalendar/iCalendar in BlackBerry 8700, 81xx, 88xx models. Anybody have experience either way with BlackBerry 9000?
* see [[mobile-advocacy]]

=== iPhone ===
No support for hCard/vCard/hCalendar/iCalendar in first generation iPhone / Safari / Webkit.
No support on iPhone 3G software v2.0.2(5C1), clicking the "add to address book" link as above results in a message saying "Safari can't download this file".

* see [[mobile-advocacy]]

=== Nokia ===

* The S60 3rd generation browser can handle vcards and icals (as those generated by X2V and technorati) extracted from hcards and vcards very well.

List of models: N80, ''(please update)''.

== mobile application thoughts ==
If this section gets too big, we can move it to a separate page like [[mobile-user-interface]].

=== browser address book integration ===
Every mobile browser should auto-detect [[hCards]] and provide the user a simple/unobtrusive user interface to add them to their mobile address book.

Example: you are browsing a business site, or business listings (e.g. on Google Maps) which list business name, telephone number, address, URL etc. With a simple click or two, it should be possible to save those listings in your address book for future reference or navigation (see below).

=== browser calendar integration ===
Every mobile browser should auto-detect [[hCalendar]] events and provide the user a simple/unobtrusive user interface to add (or subscribe to) them to their mobile address book.

Example: you are browsing an event site (e.g. Upcoming.org), or event listings on a business site, and see event names, start/end times, locations, etc. With a simple click or two, it should be possible to save those events in your calendar for future reference / alarms etc.

=== mapping and navigation ===
[[adr]] and [[geo]] microformats are useful for mobile mapping and navigation applications. (from tweet: [http://twitter.com/microformats/statuses/916437155]).

The most obvious thing to do is extending support for [[geo]] so you can get directions to places from browsers, so you could, for example, get off the train, go to Upcoming.org on your mobile, click the address and have the mobile mapping applications walk you there. (from tweets [http://twitter.com/markng/statuses/916433126], [http://twitter.com/markng/statuses/916436304]).

=== url dialing ===
Most phones have a way of invoking a call from the browser or from applications built in the native languages (JavaME, Python etc.) - it'd be useful if you could have a really simple way of putting in a URI, and it finding the relevant hCard on the page and auto-dials it. I can remember "companyname.com" but not some long phone number. I'm thinking of building something broadly on this line using JavaME, backed by a web service to get the numbers and return them to the device (favouring hCards, but regexing for things that look like phone numbers if it doesn't find any). This came to me a while back when I was walking around London trying to find a shop - I knew their URL but had no idea of their phone number. --[[User:TomMorris|TomMorris]] 05:07, 12 Sep 2008 (PDT)

=== effortlessly add a contact to the address book ===
By using a bit of URL voodoo we can provide a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_Code QR Code] (here's a [http://reader.kaywa.com/ reader])so that the user can point their phone at the image and following the URL, a popup appears prompting them to add the contact to their address book. '''Downside:''' It requires internet access.

Example: [http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=500x500&cht=qr&chl=http://suda.co.uk/projects/microformats/hcard/get-contact.php?uri=http://id.andr3.net] (Thank Brian Suda for X2V!) --[[User:Andr3|Andr3]] 01:19PM, 12 Sep 2008 (WEST)

== thanks ==
* [http://twitter.com/bryanrieger @bryanrieger] for [http://twitter.com/bryanrieger/statuses/916416344 asking the question] on Twitter.
* [http://twitter.com/markng @markng] for providing some ideas with user scenarios.

== see also ==
* [[advocacy]]
* [[mobile-advocacy]]
* [[user-interface]]
* [[operator-phone-tests]]

mobile

2008-09-12T12:24:54Z

Andr3: added Nokia support and added a usecase, using QR codes.

<h1>mobile</h1>

'''This page is a stub and would benefit from your contributions!'''

{{TOC-right}}
Mobile and microformats make for a particularly powerful combination. Microformats help users complete more tasks with fewer steps, and requiring fewer steps is especially important in mobile applications. This page lists current known mobile support of microformats, and ideas/suggestions for mobile applications that could use microformats.

== mobile support ==
=== Treo ===
The Treo browser has good integration with the Treo address book and calendar.

* '''[[hCard]] support.''' Clicking on a "Add to Address Book" link (e.g. on [http://technorati.com/about/contact.html Technorati's contact page]) will prompt the user to add that [[hCard]] directly to their Treo address book.

* '''[[hCalendar]] support.''' Clicking on an "Add to Calendar" link (e.g. like on the [[events]] page) will prompt the user to add [[hCalendar]] events directly to their Treo calendar. (Note: the "Subscribe to" links that use <code>webcal:</code> do not appear to currently work on the Treo.)

=== BlackBerry ===
No support for hCard/vCard/hCalendar/iCalendar in BlackBerry 8700, 81xx, 88xx models. Anybody have experience either way with BlackBerry 9000?
* see [[mobile-advocacy]]

=== iPhone ===
No support for hCard/vCard/hCalendar/iCalendar in first generation iPhone / Safari / Webkit.
No support on iPhone 3G software v2.0.2(5C1), clicking the "add to address book" link as above results in a message saying "Safari can't download this file".

* see [[mobile-advocacy]]

=== Nokia ===

* The S60 3rd generation browser can handle vcards and icals (as those generated by X2V and technorati) extracted from hcards and vcards very well.

List of models: N80, ''(please update)''.

== mobile application thoughts ==
If this section gets too big, we can move it to a separate page like [[mobile-user-interface]].

=== browser address book integration ===
Every mobile browser should auto-detect [[hCards]] and provide the user a simple/unobtrusive user interface to add them to their mobile address book.

Example: you are browsing a business site, or business listings (e.g. on Google Maps) which list business name, telephone number, address, URL etc. With a simple click or two, it should be possible to save those listings in your address book for future reference or navigation (see below).

=== browser calendar integration ===
Every mobile browser should auto-detect [[hCalendar]] events and provide the user a simple/unobtrusive user interface to add (or subscribe to) them to their mobile address book.

Example: you are browsing an event site (e.g. Upcoming.org), or event listings on a business site, and see event names, start/end times, locations, etc. With a simple click or two, it should be possible to save those events in your calendar for future reference / alarms etc.

=== mapping and navigation ===
[[adr]] and [[geo]] microformats are useful for mobile mapping and navigation applications. (from tweet: [http://twitter.com/microformats/statuses/916437155]).

The most obvious thing to do is extending support for [[geo]] so you can get directions to places from browsers, so you could, for example, get off the train, go to Upcoming.org on your mobile, click the address and have the mobile mapping applications walk you there. (from tweets [http://twitter.com/markng/statuses/916433126], [http://twitter.com/markng/statuses/916436304]).

=== url dialing ===
Most phones have a way of invoking a call from the browser or from applications built in the native languages (JavaME, Python etc.) - it'd be useful if you could have a really simple way of putting in a URI, and it finding the relevant hCard on the page and auto-dials it. I can remember "companyname.com" but not some long phone number. I'm thinking of building something broadly on this line using JavaME, backed by a web service to get the numbers and return them to the device (favouring hCards, but regexing for things that look like phone numbers if it doesn't find any). This came to me a while back when I was walking around London trying to find a shop - I knew their URL but had no idea of their phone number. --[[User:TomMorris|TomMorris]] 05:07, 12 Sep 2008 (PDT)

=== effortlessly add a contact to the address book ===
By using a bit of URL voodoo we can provide a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_Code QR Code] so that the user can point their phone at the image and following the URL, a popup appears prompting them to add the contact to their address book. '''Downside:''' It requires internet access.

Example: [http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=500x500&cht=qr&chl=http://suda.co.uk/projects/microformats/hcard/get-contact.php?uri=http://id.andr3.net] (Thank Brian Suda for X2V!) --[[User:Andr3|Andr3]] 01:19PM, 12 Sep 2008 (WEST)

== thanks ==
* [http://twitter.com/bryanrieger @bryanrieger] for [http://twitter.com/bryanrieger/statuses/916416344 asking the question] on Twitter.
* [http://twitter.com/markng @markng] for providing some ideas with user scenarios.

== see also ==
* [[advocacy]]
* [[mobile-advocacy]]
* [[user-interface]]
* [[operator-phone-tests]]

presentations

2008-07-08T14:03:21Z

Andr3: Adding a presentation

<h1> microformats presentations </h1>
{{TOC-right}}
This page lists various presentations, sessions, papers and posters which have provided explanations and discusions of both [[microformats]] in general, and specific microformats. Check out microformats [[events]] for upcoming presentations. See also microformats [[podcasts]] and [[screencasts]] for audio/video presentations and discussions.

Most recent presentations/sessions listed first.

== 2008 ==
* 2008-07-02 [http://www.slideshare.net/andr3/microformatos-pequenas-peas-do-puzzle Microformatos - pequenças peças do puzzle] presentation in Portuguese, by André Luís for a training session at SAPO.pt (Lisbon, Portugal)
* 2008-04-16 [http://slideshow.rubyforge.org/microformats.html Microformats - Adding Semantics to Your Web Site - Web 3.0 in Action] presentation by Gerald Bauer (Vancouver Software Developers Network/VanDev at University of British Columbia)
* 2008-02-19 [http://www.glennjones.net/Post/835/SemanticCampLondon.htm Can your website be your API and real life] presentation by Glenn Jones (Semantic Camp London) covers social network portability and date portability
* 2008-02-19 [http://www.slideshare.net/garethr/parsing-microformats Parsing Microformats] presentation by Gareth Rushgrove (Semantic Camp London) includes an overview of available parsers

== 2007 ==
* 2007-11-17 [http://www.slideshare.net/56k/mromanello-ecal-presentation Linking Text References to Relevant Digital Resources Over The Web (Proposal of a Microformat for Canonical Texts References)] presentation by Matteo Romanello at [http://enlil.ff.cuni.cz/ecal Electronic Corpora of Ancient Languages] conference held in Prague on November 2007.
* 2007-11-06 [http://www.slideshare.net/guest897d73/microformats-a-web-of-data Microformats: A Web of Data] presentation by Brian Suda at [[events/2007-11-06-microfomats-a-web-of-data|Web 2.0 Expo Berlin]].
* 2007-10-31 [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4912491017216716477 Microformats - The What, Where, Why and How] This is a recording of a presentation given by Mark Meeker on Microformats. Mark is an Architect on the UI Engineering team at Orbitz Worldwide. OrbitzTech talk Chicago Il.
* 2007-10-04 [http://tantek.com/presentations/2007/10/social-network-portability/ Social Network Portability] presentation by Tantek Çelik at [[events/2007-10-04-fundamentos-web-social-network-portability|Fundamentos Web 2007]].
* 2007-10-04 [http://www.slideshare.net/mattb/coding-on-the-shoulders-of-giants Coding on the Shoulders of Giants] presentation by Matt Biddulph at [[events/2007-10-04-future-of-web-apps|Future of Web Apps London 2007]] - mentions their implementation of hCard, hCalendar and how their support gives them more features.
* 2007-10-02 [http://www.slideshare.net/cgriego/microformats-building-blocks-of-the-semantic-web/ Microformats, building blocks of the semantic web] presentation by Chris Griego at [[events/2007-10-02-dallas-ruby-brigade|Dallas Ruby Brigade October 2007]]
* 2007-08-30 GeekUp presentation by [http://www.ts0.com Thom Shannon] - [http://www.ts0.com/2007/09/microformats-whats-point.asp Microformats: What's the point?]
* 2007-06-.. http://tantek.com/presentations/2007/06/microformats-bb-you/
* 2007-05-.. http://tantek.com/presentations/2007/05/microformats-bb-you/
* 2007-06-02 BarCamp San Diego presentation by Joshua Brewer: [http://www.slideshare.net/jbrewer/barcamp-sd-microformats Microformats: Building a Better Web].
* 2007-05-16 [[events/2007-05-16-XTech|XTech 2007]] presentation by Jeremy Keith: [http://adactio.com/extras/slides/nanotech.pdf Microformats: the nanotechnology of the semantic web].
* 2007-04-30 [[events/2007-04-30-mix07|Microformats: Data Formats That Put Humans First]] [http://tantek.com/presentations/2007/04/microformats/ presentation by Tantek Çelik]
* 2007-03-23 [[events/2007-03-23-stanford|Microformats at Stanford]] [http://tantek.com/presentations/2007/03/microformats/ presentation by Tantek Çelik]
* 2007-03-22 [http://www.webdu.com.au/go/session/microformats--hidden-treasures Microformats—the hidden treasure] by Dmitry Baranovskiy at the [http://www.webdu.com.au/ webDU 2007] conference in Sydney, Australia, 3:00pm–4:00pm
* 2007-03-16 [http://www.afroginthevalley.com/fr/2007/03/16/presentation-microformats-a-php-quebec/ Métadonnées pour Humains & Machines] (dead link ?) presentation in French by Sylvain Carle at the [http://conf.phpquebec.com/fr/archive/conf2007/ PHP Québec 2007] conference in Montréal, Canada.
* 2007-02-23 [http://bluesmoon.info/talks/microformats/ Microformats at the CSI Web 2.0 Conference in Bangalore] presentation by Philip Tellis
* 2007-02-19, [http://www.glennjones.net/Post/825/DestroyingWalledGardens-MicroformatssyndicationandAPI%e2%80%99s.htm Destroying Walled Gardens - Microformats syndication and API’s] at [http://barcamp.org/BarCampLondon2 BarCamp London 2], UK by Glenn Jones
* 2007-02-13, [http://groups.google.com/group/bristolskillswap/web/february-skillswap-microformats Microformats: The Semantic Web for the Rest of Us] Bristol Skillswap [rtsp://stream.watershed.co.uk/skillswap/2007.02.13.microformats.mov Streaming Video]
* 2007-02-07, [http://north.webdirections.org Web Directions North 2007], [http://north.webdirections.org/detail/venue/ Renaissance Vancouver Hotel Harbourside], 1133 West Hastings Street, Vancouver, British Columbia, V6E3T3, Canada
** [[events/2007-02-07-web-directions-north|Microformats at Web Directions North 2007]], 11:45am-12:45pm, 1:45pm-3:45pm
*** Tantek Çelik (Technorati) - "[http://tantek.com/presentations/2007/02/microformats/ Microformats — The Big Picture]"
*** John Allsopp (Westciv) - "[http://north07.webdirections.org/presentations/MicroformatsForDevelopers.pdf Microformats For Developers]"
*** Dan Cederholm (Simplebits) - "[http://north07.webdirections.org/presentations/MicroformatsForDesigners.pdf Microformats For Designers]"
* 2007-02-03 [http://www.glennjones.net/Post/823/Microformats%2ctheAK-47oftheweb-WebDD.htm Microformats HTML to API] at [http://www.webdd.org.uk/ WebDD], Reading UK by Glenn Jones

== 2006 ==
* 2006-11-24, Taichi Kaminogoya presented to [http://2xup.org/log/2006/11/27-2219 microformats に触れてみよう] at [http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~eb2m-mrt/kaihatsu9.html XML Developers' Day #9], Tokyo, JAPAN.
* October 28th, [http://www.keepthebyte.ch/2006/10/microformats-speech-at-barcamp-zurich.html Microformats Speech at Barcamp Zurich]
* October 10th, Taichi Kaminogoya presented to [http://2xup.org/log/2006/10/10-1800 microformatsがもたらすドキドキする未来] at [http://lp1.cssnite.jp/ CSS Nite LP Disk 1], Tokyo, JAPAN.
* September 28th, [http://www.webdirections.org/microformats/ Microformats] at Web Directions South, Sydney Australia by John Allsopp. [http://www.webdirections.org/microformats/ slides, podcast, live blogging transcript all online now]
* September 27th, [http://tantek.com/presentations/2006/09/microformats-intro/ Microformats Intro] at New Context 2006, Radisson Miyako Hotel, Minato-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN. See also [http://flickr.com/photos/tags/microformatsnewcontext2006 photos].
* September 16th, [http://fredericdevillamil.com/presentations/2006/que-sont-les-microformats/index.html Introducing Microformats for resume publishing] in French by Frederic de Villamil at Barcamp Paris 4. Location: 43 rue d'Aboukir, 75002 Paris France
* September 13th, [http://tantek.com/presentations/2006/09/microformats-practices/ Microformats Practices] at [[events/2006-09-13-future-of-web-apps-microformats|Future of Web Apps]] in San Francisco. Location: Palace of Fine Arts Theatre, Lyon Street, San Francisco CA 94123.
* September 3th, Backnetwork and Microformats by Glenn Jones at Barcamp London. demo of hCard subscription idea for social networks.
* August 26th, Tantek Çelik led the [http://barcamp.org/BarCampStanfordMicroformats BarCampStanfordMicroformats] discussion at room 426, Margaret Jacks Hall, Stanford, CA 94305. There is an [http://barcamp.org/f/MF-barcamp_08_26_2006.ogg Ogg recording of the session].
* July 11th, [http://tantek.com/presentations/2006/07/what-are-microformats/ What are microformats?] at [[events/2006-07-11-an-event-apart-microformats|An Event Apart in New York City]]
* July 6th, [http://yatil.de/webmontag/ka0706/ Mikroformate Erweiterte Semantik von HTML-Dokumenten] (Präsentation von Eric Eggert) Web mondays presentation in german - translation is available here
* June 15th, Phil Wilson presented to the [http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/web-focus/events/workshops/webmaster-2006/ Institutional Web Management Workshop]
* June 8, Pete Prodoehl presented [http://rasterweb.net/raster/presentations/microformats-20060608/ Microformats] to the Milwaukee Web Design Meetup Group
* May 30, [http://netsquared.org NetSquared] [http://netsquared.org/conference/ Conference], 4:15pm-5:10pm: : [http://netsquared.org/conference/conference-sessions/Mashups A web more woven - the alchemy and practicalities of Mashups]. Tantek Çelik, Taylor McKnight and Chris Messina will discuss the core utility of microformats to publish and share data for/with mashups and other applications. Location: Jordan room, Cisco Systems' Vineyard Conference Center, 260 E. Tasman Drive, San Jose, CA.
* May 25, Brian Suda and Ryan King presented [http://theryanking.com/presentations/2006/www/ Practical Microformats] at WWW 2006 ([http://www.molly.com Molly Holzschlag] was orginally scheduled to give this talk, we filled in at the last minute with our slides from XTech)
* May 24, Kevin Lawver presented [http://presentations.lawver.net/standards/a_microformat_and_proposal_for/ A Microformat and Proposal For Interoperable Widgets]
* May 18, [http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/schedule/paper/148 The Intelligent Design of Microformats] by Ryan King at XTech 2006. ([http://theryanking.com/presentations/2006/xtech/talk/ slides]).
* May 16, [http://thebigjc.org/articles/2006/05/16/is-web-2-0-changing-the-software-industry Is Web 2.0 Changing the Software Industry?] by Chris Messina at [http://meshconference.com Mesh Conference]
* May 16, [http://theryanking.com/presentations/2006/xtech/tutorial/ Microformats from the Ground Up] by Brian Suda and Ryan King @ XTech 2006
* April 25, At [http://barcamp.org/TorCampDemoCamp5 DemoCamp #5 in Toronto], [http://blog.davidjanes.com David Janes] demonstrated [http://www.blogmatrix.com/ BlogMatrix] his platform for publish which supports microformats. (see [http://accordionguy.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2006/4/26/1913279.html Accordionguy blogpost]).
* April 23, [http://jazkarta.com/presentations/microformats.pdf/view Microformats and the Future of Syndication] by Nate Aune, AdaptiveWave (CM Pros Summit, San Francisco, CA)
* April 22, Intro to Microformats, [http://barcamp.pbwiki.com/BarCampBangalore Barcamp Bangalore], Bangalore, India, (photos [http://flickr.com/photos/abgpt/133393564/ 1], [http://flickr.com/photos/abgpt/133393545/ 2], [http://flickr.com/photos/abgpt/133393626/ 3])
* March 16, [http://ono.cdlib.org/archives/shimenawa/000219.html Reading 2.0] (see [http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2006/03/link_list_reading_20_1.html Tim O'Reilly's notes]), San Francisco, CA
** Building with MicroFormats, [http://www.chaddickerson.com/blog/2006/03/17/reading-20-and-microformats/ Chad Dickerson], Yahoo
* March 13, SXSW Interactive, Room 17AB, Austin Convention Center, Austin, TX
** [[events/2006-03-13-sxsw-microformats|Microformats: Evolving the Web]], 11:30am-12:30pm
* March 11, SXSW Interactive, Room 17AB, Austin Convention Center, Austin, TX
** [http://tantek.com/presentations/2006/03/building-blocks Creating Building Blocks For Independents], 5pm-6pm
** [http://flickr.com/photos/tags/microformatssxsw photos]
* March 7, O'Reilly Emerging Technologies (ETech) Conference, Manchester Grand Hyatt, Ballroom, San Diego, CA
** [[events/2006-03-07-etech-microformats|Microformats intro and lightning demos at O'Reilly ETech conf.]], 5:30pm-6:15pm
** [http://flickr.com/photos/tags/microformatsetech photos]
* March 1, W3C Technical Plenary Day, Hotel Sofitel Cannes Mandelieu Royal Casino, main auditorium, 605 avenuedu Général de Gaulle, BP 49, MANDELIEU LA NAPOULE CEDEX, 06212 MANDELIEU LA NAPOULE, FRANCE
** [[events/2006-03-01-w3c-plenary-microformats|Microformats panel at W3C Technical Plenary Day]], 10:30am-11:30am
*** Ian Hickson (Google) - "A billion documents and no semantics anywhere" (NEED LINK TO SLIDES OR STUDY)
*** Tantek Çelik (Technorati) - "[http://tantek.com/presentations/2006/03/what-are-microformats/ What are microformats?]"
*** Håkon Wium Lie (Opera) - "Cascading Markup Languages — boom!" (NEED LINK TO SLIDES)
*** Rohit Khare (CommerceNet) - "[http://labs.commerce.net/~rohit/Angstro-W3C-TP/ Where Angle Brackets Fear to Tread]"
*** Dan Connolly (W3C) - "[http://www.w3.org/2003/g/talk62/slides Microformats for practical Semantic Web deployment]"
*** Q&A
**** "I'm very excited about '''microformats'''. What I really want is to get all the data out of databases and expressed as part of the Semantic Web." - Tim Berners-Lee. ('''emphasis''' added)
** "Services and the Web" by Mark Nottingham (Yahoo), 12:05pm-12:10pm.
*** Request to W3T/W3M: Go After The "Real" Web: Apache, PHP, Mozilla, Intermediaries and Caches, '''Microformats''', JSON... ('''emphasis''' added)
** Attendees voted the "Microformats" session the best session of the Plenary Day. 6:17pm.
* February 24, Yahoo Speakers Series, Yahoo Mission College Campus, 2nd floor conference room, 2821 Mission College Blvd., Santa Clara, CA 95054
** [http://tantek.com/presentations/2006/02/microformats-evolution/ Microformats: Evolving the Web]
* January 18, Apple Web Publishers internal meeting, Apple Computer, Star Trek conference room, 1 Infinite Loop, Cupertino, CA 95014, 12-1:40pm
** [http://tantek.com/presentations/2006/01/microformats-evolution/ Microformats: Evolving the Web]
* January 10, SD Forum Emerging Technologies SIG, Room H1, Cubberley Community Center, Palo Alto, CA, 7-9pm
** Ryan King's presentation, Ernie Prabhakar's presentation, Rohit Khare's presentation
** Microformats panel: Ryan King, Ernie Prabhakar, Rohit Khare, Tantek Çelik, Kevin Marks

== 2005 ==
* December 15, Syndicate Conference, San Francisco, CA
** [http://tantek.com/presentations/2005/12/syndicate-microformats/ Microformats - Emerging syndication types]
* November 26, [http://barcamp.org/index.cgi?TorCamp TorCamp], Teehan+Lax, 460 Richmond St. W, Toronto, ON, CA
** [http://www.davidjanes.com/docs/2005.11.25%20Microformats%20Presentation.ppt powerpoints] (sorry)
** [http://blog.davidjanes.com/mtarchives/2005_12.html#003467 photo]
* November 12, THINK Conference, Santa Cruz room, Chaminade hotel, Santa Cruz, CA, USA
** [[presentation-think-2005-11-12]]
* November 10, (location unknown), by Kevin Yank of SitePoint Pty. Ltd.
** [http://www.sitepoint.com/examples/innovation-on-standards/ Innovating on top of standards - Not around them]
* October 5, [http://web2con.com Web 2.0 Conference], Olympic Room, Argent Hotel, San Francisco, CA, USA
** [http://tantek.com/presentations/2005/10/microformats-examples/ Microformats Examples]
* October 4, [http://osafoundation.org/ OSAF], San Francisco, CA, USA
** [http://tantek.com/presentations/2005/10/microformats-evolution/ Microformats: Evolving the Web]
* September 30, Web Essentials 05 <nowiki>http://we05.com/</nowiki> (link broke 2007-12-18 or earlier), Guthrie auditorium, University of Technology, Sydney, Australia
** [http://tantek.com/presentations/2005/09/microformats-evolution/ Microformats: Evolving the Web] (<nowiki>http://we05.com/podcast/mp3/we05-14-tantek-celik2.mp3</nowiki> (link broke 2007-12-18 or earlier) MP3 - incomplete, mirror: http://microformats.org/media/2005/09/we05-14-tantek-celik2.mp3)
* September 29, Web Essentials 05 <nowiki>http://we05.com/</nowiki> (link broke 2007-12-18 or earlier), Guthrie auditorium, University of Technology, Sydney, Australia
** [http://tantek.com/presentations/2005/09/elements-of-xhtml/ The Elements of Meaningful XHTML] (<nowiki>http://we05.com/podcast/mp3/we05-2-tantek-celik.mp3</nowiki> (link broke 2007-12-18 or earlier) MP3 mirror: http://microformats.org/media/2005/09/we05-2-tantek-celik.mp3 )
* September 25, [http://webzine2005.com/ Webzine 2005], Valhalla Room, Swedish American Hall, San Francisco, CA, USA
** [http://theryanking.com/presentations/2005/webzine/ Microformats @ Webzine 2005]
* September 21, Web Intelligence Conference, Compiegne, France
** [http://moloko.itc.it/paoloblog/presentations/presentation_wi05/presentation_wi05.html Page-reRank: using trusted links to re-rank authority] ([http://sra.itc.it/people/massa/publications/wi05_page_rerank_massa_hayes.pdf paper]) - A discussion of using [[vote-links]] to improve [http://www-db.stanford.edu/~backrub/google.html PageRank]
* June 20: Supernova 2005 ([http://supernova2005.com/ Supernova2005 site]), Microformats [http://supernova2005.com/workshops.htm Workshop], Wharton West, Suite 500, San Francisco, CA, USA
** "[http://tantek.com/presentations/2005/06/what-are-microformats/ What are Microformats?]"
** "[http://homepage.mac.com/kevinmarks/supernovatags.html A microformat for tags]"
** [http://wiki.commerce.net/wiki/ZCommerceWS#Microformats commercenet wiki page on the workshop] ([http://labs.commerce.net/wiki/index.php/ZCommerceWS#Microformats 2])
* May 14: Fourteenth International World Wide Web Conference ([http://www2005.org/ WWW2005]), 2005, Microformats Dev-Day Track, Makuhari Messe Room 303, Chiba, JAPAN
** "[http://tantek.com/presentations/2005/05/what-are-microformats/ What are Microformats?]" - Tantek Çelik
** "[http://westciv.com/WWW2005/linkmf.html Link Microformats]" - John Allsopp
** "[http://complexspiral.com/events/archive/2005/www2005/potential.html The Potential of Microformats]" - Eric Meyer
** "Distributed Social Networks (XFN Implementations)"
*** Demonstrations of [http://wordpress.org WordPress] & [http://metafilter.com Metafilter]'s builtin XFN support, and XFN search engines [http://rubhub.com/ RubHub] & [http://xhtmlfriends.net/ xhtmlfriends.net].
** "[http://tantek.com/presentations/2005/05/hcard-hcalendar/ People and Events (hCard & hCalendar)]" - Tantek Çelik
** "[http://cnlabs.commerce.net/~rohit/hReview-in-Review/ hReview in Review]" - Rohit Khare
** "Bibliographies (hBib)" - notes captured: [[hbib-discussion-2005-05-14|hBib Discussion 2005-05-14]]
** "[http://westciv.com/WWW2005/xml2mf.html a more meaningful web with microformats]"
** "Semantic Web and Microformats" panel, Room 201

* March 15: "[http://tantek.com/presentations/2005/03/decentralizednetworks/ Decentralized Social Networks]", South by South West Conference (SXSW) 2005, Austin Convention Center Room 17AB, Austin TX

* March 14: "[http://2005.sxsw.com/interactive/conference/panels/?action=show&id=IAP0060 How to Trick-Out Your Blog]", South by South West Conference (SXSW) 2005, Austin Convention Center Room 16B, Austin TX

* March 13
** "[http://complexspiral.com/events/archive/2005/sxsw/ Emergent Semantics]", South by South West Conference (SXSW) 2005, Austin Convention Center Room 15, Austin TX
** "[http://tantek.com/presentations/2005/03/leveragingtags.html Leveraging Tags]", as part of the "How to Leverage Solipsism" panel, South by South West Conference (SXSW) 2005, Austin Convention Center Room 18A, Austin TX
** "[http://tantek.com/presentations/2005/03/elementsofxhtml/ The Elements of Meaningful XHTML]", South by South West Conference (SXSW) 2005, Austin Convention Center Room 16B, Austin TX

* January 21: [http://tantek.com/presentations/2005/01/attentionxml.html Attention.xml Technology Overview], private presentation, Yahoo! campus, Santa Clara, CA

== 2004 ==

* September 28: "[http://tantek.com/presentations/20040928sdforumws/semantic-xhtml.html Semantic XHTML: Can your website be your API? - Using semantic XHTML to show what you mean]", SD Forum Web Services SIG, eBay's Silicon Valley Conference Center 2161 North First Street San Jose, CA 95131

* September 12: "[http://wiki.oreillynet.com/foocamp04/index.cgi?MVCeqXHTMLCSSJS Model+View+Controller = XHTML+CSS+JS]", O'Reilly Media Foo Camp 2004, O'Reilly Campus, Wallcreeper room, Sebastopol CA

* September 11: "[http://wiki.oreillynet.com/foocamp04/index.cgi?AttentionXML Attention.XML]", O'Reilly Media Foo Camp 2004, O'Reilly Campus, Appaloosa room, Sebastopol CA

* September 10: "[http://wiki.oreillynet.com/foocamp04/index.cgi?SimpleSemanticFormats Simple Semantic Formats]", O'Reilly Media Foo Camp 2004, O'Reilly Campus, Camel room, Sebastopol CA

* March 15: "[http://tantek.com/presentations/2004sxsw/xfn.html Ridiculously Easy Social Software]", South by South West Conference (SXSW) 2004, Austin Convention Center Room 17B, Austin TX

* February 11th: "[http://www.tantek.com/presentations/2004etech/realworldsemanticspres.html real world semantics]", O'Reilly Emerging Technology Conference (ETech) 2004 Westin Horton Plaza, San Diego, CA. This presentation was the first public discussion and introduction of the terms "microformat" and "lowercase semantic web". Reprised as a five-minute lightning talk at [http://wiki.oreillynet.com/etech/index.cgi?ConCon ConCon], Rx Gallery, San Francisco CA (16 February 2004).

This page was contributed from [http://developers.technorati.com/wiki/MicroFormatsPresentations the Technorati developers wiki].

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2008-06-25T22:54:48Z

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2008-01-15T00:27:42Z

Andr3:

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events/2008-01-15-hresume-webinar

2008-01-15T00:22:27Z

Andr3: correcting dtend from 2007 to 2008.

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:Ryan King will be presenting [[hResume]] to the [http://www.hr-xml.org/ HR-XML] crowd. To join, register at [https://www1.gotomeeting.com/register/824414913] then go to [https://www1.gotomeeting.com/en_US/webinar/island/joinAWebinar.tmpl] and enter 824414913 as the webinar ID and your email address.
;Presenter
:[http://theryanking.com/ Ryan King]
;Web
:http://gotowebinar.com
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