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2008-12-10T17:16:29Z

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<h1>Exploratory Discussions</h1>
{{TOC-right}}
Per the microformats [[process]]: research and analysis of real-world [[examples]], existing formats, and brainstorming to motivate the microformat. Please check [[rejected-formats]] before making additions.

Sort each section alphabetically. Group similar efforts.

==active==
The following exploratory discussions are being actively pursued, generally, edited in the last month, and/or being utilized/experimented with by multiple sites in the wild.

* [[activity-streams]]
* [[citation]]: [[citation-examples|citation examples]], [[citation-formats|citation formats]], [[citation-brainstorming|citation brainstorming]], [[citation-strawman-01|h3988 proposal]] and [[citation-faq|citation FAQ]]
* [[comment]] ([[comment-problem|comment problem]], [[comment-examples|comment examples]], [[comments-formats|comment formats]], and [[comment-brainstorming|comment brainstorming]]{{NewMarker}} (Some stuff needs to be extracted from [[comments-formats]], [[hcomment]] and [[mfcomment]]))
* figures [[figure]], [[figure-examples|figure examples]], [[figure-formats]], [[figure-brainstorming|figure brainstorming]]
* [[group]]: [[group-examples|group examples]], [[group-formats]], [[group-brainstorming|group brainstorming]]
* listing / hListing [[hlisting-proposal|hListing proposal]], and [[hlisting-feedback|hListing feedback]]
** based on listing [[listing-examples|examples]], [[listing-formats|formats]], and [[listing-brainstorming|brainstorming]]
* measures and measurement units [[measure]], [[measure-examples]], [[measure-formats]]
* [[mfo]]: [[mfo-examples]]
* [[product]] - [[product-examples]], [[product-formats]], [[product-brainstorming]].
* [[recipe]] [[recipe-examples|recipe examples]], [[recipe-formats]], [[recipe-brainstorming]]
* [[representative-hcard]] - see also [[uid]]

=== media related ===
Media related efforts are very active in the microformats community and thus have been grouped here for convenience
* [[audio-info]] ([[audio-info-examples|examples]], [[audio-info-formats|formats]], [[audio-info-brainstorming|brainstorming]], [[audio-info-proposal|proposal]], [[audio-info-issues|issues]], [[haudio|specification]]{{NewMarker}}) - Marking up information and metadata related to audio (speech, music, and sound in general).
** music [[music-examples|music examples]]
* audio-album (see [[audio-info]] pages for examples, formats, brainstorming. [[audio-album-proposal]], [[audio-album-issues]]) - Marking up information and metadata related to audio albums/collections.
* broadcast: Internet Radio & TV: [[broadcast-examples]], [[broadcast-brainstorming]]
* [[media-info]] ([[media-info-examples|media-info examples]], [[media-info-formats|media-info formats]], [[media-info-brainstorming|media-info brainstorming]], [[media-info-proposal| media-info Proposal]])
* photo note [[photo-note-examples|photo note examples]]
* video-info ([[video-info-examples|examples]], [[video-info-formats|formats]], [[video-info-brainstorming|brainstorming]], [[video-info-proposal|proposal]], [[video-info-issues|issues]]) - Marking up information and metadata related to video (video clips, movies, television, and video multimedia presentation in general).

== other ==
The following explorations are fairly inactive, though they may just be waiting for folks with sufficient interest and use cases to help further their development. Some of them could probably be consolidated, or even rejected with suggestions of re-using existing microformats.

* [[alternates]] ([[alternates-examples|alternates examples]], [[alternates-formats]], [[alternates-brainstorming|alternates brainstorming]])
*[[attention]]
* book [[book-examples|book examples]], [[book-formats|book formats]], and [[book-brainstorming|book brainstorming]]
* chat [[chat-examples|chat examples]], [[chat-formats|chat formats]], and [[chat-brainstorming|chat brainstorming]]
* code [[code-examples|code examples]], [[code-formats]], [[code-brainstorming|code brainstorming]]
* [[collection-description|collection description]] - for describing collections in libraries
* [[definition-examples]]
* [[depend-examples]]: examples of dependency graphs, especially as they relate to software
* [[digital-signatures]]: incorporation of digital signatures in Microformatted data; ([[digitalsignature-examples|digital-signature examples]], [[digitalsignature-formats]], [[digitalsignature-brainstorming|digital-signatures brainstorming]])
* directions [[directions-examples|directions examples]]
* [[downloads]] [[downloads-examples|downloads examples]], [[downloads-formats|downloads formats]], [[downloads-brainstorming|downloads brainstorming]]
* [[error-message]] [[error-message-examples|error message examples]], [[error-message-formats]], [[error-message-brainstorming|error message brainstorming]]
* file-format ([[file-format-examples|examples]], formats, brainstorming) - for the mark-up of file format information (size, type, codecs, bitrate, etc.) - should this be merged with [[downloads]] ?
* forms [[forms-examples|forms examples]]
* genealogy [[genealogy-examples]], [[genealogy-formats|genealogy formats]]
* grouping ([[grouping-examples|examples]], [[grouping-formats|formats]], [[grouping-brainstorming|brainstorming]], [[grouping-proposal|proposal]]) - Metadata markup of items that should be grouped together.
* hash [[hash-examples|hash examples]] (see also [[downloads]])
* items [[items-examples|items examples]], [[items-formats]], [[items-brainstorming|items brainstorming]]
* [[journal-brainstorming]]
* last modified [[last-modified-examples|last modified examples]], [[last-modified-formats|last modified formats]], and [[last-modified-brainstorming|last modified brainstorming]]
* metalink [[metalink-examples|metalink examples]]
* news [[news-examples|news examples]]
* [[operating-hours]]: [[operating-hours-examples]] ..of stores, restaurants, etc.
* [[page-summary]] [[page-summary-examples]], [[page-summary-formats]]
* [[payment]]
* [[question-answer]], [[question-answer-examples]], [[question-answer-formats]], [[question-answer-brainstorming]]
* requirements testing [[requirements-testing|requirements testing overview]], and [[requirements-testing-examples|requirements testing examples]]
* [[rest-examples|REST examples]] (see also [[rest]])
* search results [[search-results-example|search results example]]
* [[species]] - for the marking up of the scientific names of living things: [[species-examples]], [[species-formats]], [[species-brainstorming]]
* table [[table-examples|examples]]
* transit table [[transit-table-examples|transit table examples]]
* [[widget]], [[widget-examples|widget examples]], [[widget-formats]], [[widget-brainstorming|widget brainstorming]]
* [[wiki-formats|wiki formats]]
* work of art [[work-of-art|work of art overview]], [[workofart-examples|work of art examples]], [[workofart-formats|work of art formats]], and [[workofart-brainstorming|work of art brainstorming]]
* [[xpn-examples]] - proposal to extend (or replicate) XFN for business (or professional - hence X'''P'''N) relationships

=== blogging related ===
* blog description [[blog-description-examples|blog description examples]]
* blog info [[blog-info-examples|blog info examples]]
* distributed conversation [[distributed-conversation|distributed conversation overview]], [[distributed-conversation-examples|distributed conversation examples]], [[distributed-conversation-formats|distributed conversation formats]], [[distributed-conversation-brainstorming|distributed conversation brainstorming]]
* tagspeak [[tagspeak-examples|tagspeak examples]]
* tagcloud [[tagcloud-examples|tagcloud examples]], [[tagcloud-formats]], and [[tagcloud-brainstorming|tagcloud brainstorming]].

=== education related ===
* higher education academic information
** [[hied-course-examples]], [[hied-course-formats]], [[hied-course-brainstorming]] - an academic course activity
** [[course-catalog]]; [[course-catalog-examples]]
* learning ([[learning-examples|examples]], [[learning-formats|formats]], [[learning-brainstorming|brainstorming]], [[learning-people|people]], [[learning-proposal|proposal]], [[learning-issues|issues]]) - a microformat for microlearning

=== productivity related ===
* task [[htask|task effort]], [[task-examples| task examples]], [[task-formats|task formats]], [[task-brainstorming|task brainstorming]], and [[task-faq|task FAQ]]
* [[to-do-examples]]
* meeting minutes [[meeting-minutes-examples|meeting minutes examples]], [[meeting-minutes-formats|meeting minutes formats]], and [[meeting-minutes-brainstorming|meeting minutes brainstorming]]
** meetings usually aren't very productive, yet, hopefully if meeting minutes are captured, meetings aren't a complete waste of time.

=== commerce products listings related ===
* bank account [[bankaccount-brainstorming]], [[bankaccount-examples]]
* [[currency]]; [[currency-examples]]; [[currency-formats]]; [[currency-brainstorming]]; [[currency-proposal]]; [[currency-issues]]
* job listing [[job-listing-examples|job listing examples]], [[job-listing-formats]], [[job-listing-brainstorming|job listing brainstorming]]
* receipt ([[receipt-examples|examples]], [[receipt-formats|formats]], [[receipt-brainstorming|brainstorming]], [[receipt-proposal|proposal]]) - Marking up information and metadata related to purchase receipts.
* [[wishlist]], [[wishlist-examples]]

== completed ==
The following exploratory discussions resulted in a microformat.

* blog post [[blog-post-examples|examples]], [[blog-post-formats|blog post formats]], and [[blog-post-brainstorming|blog post brainstorming]] (yielded the [[hatom|hAtom]] draft)
* directory inclusion [[directory-inclusion-examples|directory inclusion examples]], [[directory-inclusion-formats|directory inclusion formats]]. (yielded the [[rel-directory]] microformat)
* location [[location-examples]], [[location-formats|location formats]]. (see also [[adr]], [[geo]], [[hcard|hCard]])
* resume [[resume-examples]], [[resume-formats|resume formats]], [[resume-brainstorming|resume brainstorming]] yielded the [[hresume|hResume]] draft.
* review [[review-examples|review examples]], and [[review-formats|review formats]] yielded the [[hreview|hReview]] draft

== solo pursuits ==
The following are primarily pursued by a single individual and thus have not generated widespread interest in the community yet. In general, solo pursuits are discouraged.

The goal of a format is to help human communication, the exchange of information between two people. Thus if only one community member is really interested in pursuing it (enough to work on it in the community), it's not important as a format. While a list of contributors or supporters helps demonstrate some broader interest, it is still insufficient if a format is only really being worked on in the community by a single individual.

* geo extensions ([[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]])
** [[geo-elevation-examples]], [[geo-elevation-formats]] - extend geo for representing altitude
** [[geo-waypoint-examples]], [[geo-waypoint-formats]] - extend geo for representing routes and boundaries, using waypoints
** [[geo-extension-examples]], [[geo-extension-formats]], [[geo-extension-brainstorming]], [[geo-extension-strawman]] - extend geo for moons, other planets, etc.
* [[off|OFF]]
* [[hJoke]] a microformat used to delineate jokes/humor

== failed to follow process ==
All too often it seems people propose a new microformat without following the [[process]] (most often not even reading apparently), nor creating the proper research pages first (and doing the research), nor sometimes even reading the [[introduction]] and [[how-to-play]] pages. Such proposals are relegated to this section to make it clear that they are worse than mere solo pursuits, they are (most of the time) solo pursuits by people who haven't even read the [[process]] page!

* [[realestate-propertydetail]], [[realestate-propertydetail-examples]], [[realestate-propertydetail-formats]], [[realestate-propertydetail brainstorming]]
* show [[show-examples]], [[show-formats]], [[show-brainstorming|show brainstorming]]
* showroll [[showroll-examples]], [[showroll-formats]], [[showroll-brainstorming]]
* syllabus [[syllabus-examples]], [[syllabus-formats]], [[syllabus-brainstorming]]

=== did not read main page ===
Even worse, proposals by people who apparently didn't even bother to read the rest of the [[Main_Page]]!

* [[rel-ecolabel]]

exploratory-discussions

2008-12-02T12:20:39Z

Cnac4Tpast: monacelo

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<h1>Exploratory Discussions</h1>
{{TOC-right}}
Per the microformats [[process]]: research and analysis of real-world [[examples]], existing formats, and brainstorming to motivate the microformat. Please check [[rejected-formats]] before making additions.

Sort each section alphabetically. Group similar efforts.

==active==
The following exploratory discussions are being actively pursued, generally, edited in the last month, and/or being utilized/experimented with by multiple sites in the wild.

* [[activity-streams]]
* [[citation]]: [[citation-examples|citation examples]], [[citation-formats|citation formats]], [[citation-brainstorming|citation brainstorming]], [[citation-strawman-01|h3988 proposal]] and [[citation-faq|citation FAQ]]
* [[comment]] ([[comment-problem|comment problem]], [[comment-examples|comment examples]], [[comments-formats|comment formats]], and [[comment-brainstorming|comment brainstorming]]{{NewMarker}} (Some stuff needs to be extracted from [[comments-formats]], [[hcomment]] and [[mfcomment]]))
* figures [[figure]], [[figure-examples|figure examples]], [[figure-formats]], [[figure-brainstorming|figure brainstorming]]
* [[group]]: [[group-examples|group examples]], [[group-formats]], [[group-brainstorming|group brainstorming]]
* listing / hListing [[hlisting-proposal|hListing proposal]], and [[hlisting-feedback|hListing feedback]]
** based on listing [[listing-examples|examples]], [[listing-formats|formats]], and [[listing-brainstorming|brainstorming]]
* measures and measurement units [[measure]], [[measure-examples]], [[measure-formats]]
* [[mfo]]: [[mfo-examples]]
* [[product]] - [[product-examples]], [[product-formats]], [[product-brainstorming]].
* [[recipe]] [[recipe-examples|recipe examples]], [[recipe-formats]], [[recipe-brainstorming]]
* [[representative-hcard]] - see also [[uid]]

=== media related ===
Media related efforts are very active in the microformats community and thus have been grouped here for convenience
* [[audio-info]] ([[audio-info-examples|examples]], [[audio-info-formats|formats]], [[audio-info-brainstorming|brainstorming]], [[audio-info-proposal|proposal]], [[audio-info-issues|issues]], [[haudio|specification]]{{NewMarker}}) - Marking up information and metadata related to audio (speech, music, and sound in general).
** music [[music-examples|music examples]]
* audio-album (see [[audio-info]] pages for examples, formats, brainstorming. [[audio-album-proposal]], [[audio-album-issues]]) - Marking up information and metadata related to audio albums/collections.
* broadcast: Internet Radio & TV: [[broadcast-examples]], [[broadcast-brainstorming]]
* [[media-info]] ([[media-info-examples|media-info examples]], [[media-info-formats|media-info formats]], [[media-info-brainstorming|media-info brainstorming]], [[media-info-proposal| media-info Proposal]])
* photo note [[photo-note-examples|photo note examples]]
* video-info ([[video-info-examples|examples]], [[video-info-formats|formats]], [[video-info-brainstorming|brainstorming]], [[video-info-proposal|proposal]], [[video-info-issues|issues]]) - Marking up information and metadata related to video (video clips, movies, television, and video multimedia presentation in general).

== other ==
The following explorations are fairly inactive, though they may just be waiting for folks with sufficient interest and use cases to help further their development. Some of them could probably be consolidated, or even rejected with suggestions of re-using existing microformats.

* [[alternates]] ([[alternates-examples|alternates examples]], [[alternates-formats]], [[alternates-brainstorming|alternates brainstorming]])
*[[attention]]
* book [[book-examples|book examples]], [[book-formats|book formats]], and [[book-brainstorming|book brainstorming]]
* chat [[chat-examples|chat examples]], [[chat-formats|chat formats]], and [[chat-brainstorming|chat brainstorming]]
* code [[code-examples|code examples]], [[code-formats]], [[code-brainstorming|code brainstorming]]
* [[collection-description|collection description]] - for describing collections in libraries
* [[definition-examples]]
* [[depend-examples]]: examples of dependency graphs, especially as they relate to software
* [[digital-signatures]]: incorporation of digital signatures in Microformatted data; ([[digitalsignature-examples|digital-signature examples]], [[digitalsignature-formats]], [[digitalsignature-brainstorming|digital-signatures brainstorming]])
* directions [[directions-examples|directions examples]]
* [[downloads]] [[downloads-examples|downloads examples]], [[downloads-formats|downloads formats]], [[downloads-brainstorming|downloads brainstorming]]
* [[error-message]] [[error-message-examples|error message examples]], [[error-message-formats]], [[error-message-brainstorming|error message brainstorming]]
* file-format ([[file-format-examples|examples]], formats, brainstorming) - for the mark-up of file format information (size, type, codecs, bitrate, etc.) - should this be merged with [[downloads]] ?
* forms [[forms-examples|forms examples]]
* genealogy [[genealogy-examples]], [[genealogy-formats|genealogy formats]]
* grouping ([[grouping-examples|examples]], [[grouping-formats|formats]], [[grouping-brainstorming|brainstorming]], [[grouping-proposal|proposal]]) - Metadata markup of items that should be grouped together.
* hash [[hash-examples|hash examples]] (see also [[downloads]])
* items [[items-examples|items examples]], [[items-formats]], [[items-brainstorming|items brainstorming]]
* [[journal-brainstorming]]
* last modified [[last-modified-examples|last modified examples]], [[last-modified-formats|last modified formats]], and [[last-modified-brainstorming|last modified brainstorming]]
* metalink [[metalink-examples|metalink examples]]
* news [[news-examples|news examples]]
* [[operating-hours]]: [[operating-hours-examples]] ..of stores, restaurants, etc.
* [[page-summary]] [[page-summary-examples]], [[page-summary-formats]]
* [[payment]]
* [[question-answer]], [[question-answer-examples]], [[question-answer-formats]], [[question-answer-brainstorming]]
* requirements testing [[requirements-testing|requirements testing overview]], and [[requirements-testing-examples|requirements testing examples]]
* [[rest-examples|REST examples]] (see also [[rest]])
* search results [[search-results-example|search results example]]
* [[species]] - for the marking up of the scientific names of living things: [[species-examples]], [[species-formats]], [[species-brainstorming]]
* table [[table-examples|examples]]
* transit table [[transit-table-examples|transit table examples]]
* [[widget]], [[widget-examples|widget examples]], [[widget-formats]], [[widget-brainstorming|widget brainstorming]]
* [[wiki-formats|wiki formats]]
* work of art [[work-of-art|work of art overview]], [[workofart-examples|work of art examples]], [[workofart-formats|work of art formats]], and [[workofart-brainstorming|work of art brainstorming]]
* [[xpn-examples]] - proposal to extend (or replicate) XFN for business (or professional - hence X'''P'''N) relationships

=== blogging related ===
* blog description [[blog-description-examples|blog description examples]]
* blog info [[blog-info-examples|blog info examples]]
* distributed conversation [[distributed-conversation|distributed conversation overview]], [[distributed-conversation-examples|distributed conversation examples]], [[distributed-conversation-formats|distributed conversation formats]], [[distributed-conversation-brainstorming|distributed conversation brainstorming]]
* tagspeak [[tagspeak-examples|tagspeak examples]]
* tagcloud [[tagcloud-examples|tagcloud examples]], [[tagcloud-formats]], and [[tagcloud-brainstorming|tagcloud brainstorming]].

=== education related ===
* higher education academic information
** [[hied-course-examples]], [[hied-course-formats]], [[hied-course-brainstorming]] - an academic course activity
** [[course-catalog]]; [[course-catalog-examples]]
* learning ([[learning-examples|examples]], [[learning-formats|formats]], [[learning-brainstorming|brainstorming]], [[learning-people|people]], [[learning-proposal|proposal]], [[learning-issues|issues]]) - a microformat for microlearning

=== productivity related ===
* task [[htask|task effort]], [[task-examples| task examples]], [[task-formats|task formats]], [[task-brainstorming|task brainstorming]], and [[task-faq|task FAQ]]
* [[to-do-examples]]
* meeting minutes [[meeting-minutes-examples|meeting minutes examples]], [[meeting-minutes-formats|meeting minutes formats]], and [[meeting-minutes-brainstorming|meeting minutes brainstorming]]
** meetings usually aren't very productive, yet, hopefully if meeting minutes are captured, meetings aren't a complete waste of time.

=== commerce products listings related ===
* bank account [[bankaccount-brainstorming]], [[bankaccount-examples]]
* [[currency]]; [[currency-examples]]; [[currency-formats]]; [[currency-brainstorming]]; [[currency-proposal]]; [[currency-issues]]
* job listing [[job-listing-examples|job listing examples]], [[job-listing-formats]], [[job-listing-brainstorming|job listing brainstorming]]
* receipt ([[receipt-examples|examples]], [[receipt-formats|formats]], [[receipt-brainstorming|brainstorming]], [[receipt-proposal|proposal]]) - Marking up information and metadata related to purchase receipts.
* [[wishlist]], [[wishlist-examples]]

== completed ==
The following exploratory discussions resulted in a microformat.

* blog post [[blog-post-examples|examples]], [[blog-post-formats|blog post formats]], and [[blog-post-brainstorming|blog post brainstorming]] (yielded the [[hatom|hAtom]] draft)
* directory inclusion [[directory-inclusion-examples|directory inclusion examples]], [[directory-inclusion-formats|directory inclusion formats]]. (yielded the [[rel-directory]] microformat)
* location [[location-examples]], [[location-formats|location formats]]. (see also [[adr]], [[geo]], [[hcard|hCard]])
* resume [[resume-examples]], [[resume-formats|resume formats]], [[resume-brainstorming|resume brainstorming]] yielded the [[hresume|hResume]] draft.
* review [[review-examples|review examples]], and [[review-formats|review formats]] yielded the [[hreview|hReview]] draft

== solo pursuits ==
The following are primarily pursued by a single individual and thus have not generated widespread interest in the community yet. In general, solo pursuits are discouraged.

The goal of a format is to help human communication, the exchange of information between two people. Thus if only one community member is really interested in pursuing it (enough to work on it in the community), it's not important as a format. While a list of contributors or supporters helps demonstrate some broader interest, it is still insufficient if a format is only really being worked on in the community by a single individual.

* geo extensions ([[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]])
** [[geo-elevation-examples]], [[geo-elevation-formats]] - extend geo for representing altitude
** [[geo-waypoint-examples]], [[geo-waypoint-formats]] - extend geo for representing routes and boundaries, using waypoints
** [[geo-extension-examples]], [[geo-extension-formats]], [[geo-extension-brainstorming]], [[geo-extension-strawman]] - extend geo for moons, other planets, etc.
* [[off|OFF]]
* [[hJoke]] a microformat used to delineate jokes/humor

== failed to follow process ==
All too often it seems people propose a new microformat without following the [[process]] (most often not even reading apparently), nor creating the proper research pages first (and doing the research), nor sometimes even reading the [[introduction]] and [[how-to-play]] pages. Such proposals are relegated to this section to make it clear that they are worse than mere solo pursuits, they are (most of the time) solo pursuits by people who haven't even read the [[process]] page!

* [[realestate-propertydetail]], [[realestate-propertydetail-examples]], [[realestate-propertydetail-formats]], [[realestate-propertydetail brainstorming]]
* show [[show-examples]], [[show-formats]], [[show-brainstorming|show brainstorming]]
* showroll [[showroll-examples]], [[showroll-formats]], [[showroll-brainstorming]]
* syllabus [[syllabus-examples]], [[syllabus-formats]], [[syllabus-brainstorming]]

=== did not read main page ===
Even worse, proposals by people who apparently didn't even bother to read the rest of the [[Main_Page]]!

* [[rel-ecolabel]]