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job-listing-brainstorming

2008-03-21T06:02:52Z

FilipCte: /* Filip Chereches-Tosa */

= Job Listing Brainstorming =

Ideas for a possible [[job-listing]] microformat.

== Fields from examples ==

(see the [[job-listing-examples]])

{| class="sortable"
! property || xhtml-element || description || major/minor (+/-) priority
|-
| title || h# || title of the job, e.g. 'Project-Manager for Customer-Service-Project' || +
|-
| description || class || job-description || +
|-
| company || [[hcard]] || || +
|-
| company size || class || || +
|-
| company logo || class || || -
|-
| multimedia || class || || -
|-
| location || [[adr]] || || +
|-
| start & end date || dtstart & dtend || :or should we use dstart for the date the ad is posted, and dtend for the closing date for aplications? || +
|-
| type (employee|contract) || class || || +
|-
| classification (full time|part time|temporary| temp to hire|seasonal|internship) || class || || +
|-
| hours/week || class || || +
|-
| salary base || class (see [[currency]]) || || +
|-
| salary max || class (see [[currency]]) || || +
|-
| wage/hour || class (see [[currency]]) || || +
|-
| education || class || ||
|-
| certification || class || ||
|-
| years || class || ||
|-
| required || class || ||
|-
| skill || class || management can fall under skill ||
|-
| years || class || ||
|-
| required || class || ||
|-
| benefit || class || ||
|-
| holiday allowance || || expressed in days or weeks? ||
|-
| contact || [[hcard]]
|-
| time posted || date-time || (is this dtstart? See above) ||
|-
| relocation covered || class || ||
|-
| job function || class || (if absent, fall back to title?) ||
|-
| travel required || class || ||
|-
| industry || || tag on company?
|-
| language of job-listing || <s>class</s> @lang on containing element (or use page's language) || ||
|-
| job-language || class || mainlanguage spoken with colleagues ||
|-
| applicationmaterial || class || e.g. cv, worksamples, licenses, greencard ||
|-
| organisationalid || class || number or phrase - large enterprises have an unique id for a specific job offer ||
|-
| applicationurl || class || Some companies require applicants to fill out application forms online ||
|-
|}

==Filip Chereches-Tosa==
* Maybe there's no need to have a dedicated microformat for jobs and we could somehow extend [http://microformats.org/wiki/hlisting-proposal the hListing proposal], by adding the following optional fields under '''description''':
** salary
** education
** skills
** type

[[User:FilipCte|Filip C.T.E.]]

==Andy Mabbett==
"job-listing" is clunky, would "vacancy" be a better name?
*I second the change of name to "Vacancy". - [[User: NTollervey|ntoll]]
**I disagree, "vacancy" has no context. It could refer to anything - eg "hotel vacancy". - Quint
***In which case, "job-vacancy" or just "job"? [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

==Christian Pfetzing==

What about "job-offer"? Reason: People with low english-skills often know "offer" but not "vacancy".
On the other hand:
Why not easily "job"?
With an attribute you can specify if it is a "job-offer" or a "job-application". So human beeings/job-platforms can easily compare "offers" and "applications". Manually (humans) or automatic (machines) -- [[User:Christian|Christian]] 05:48, 28 Apr 2007 (PDT)

==Darren Bounds==

Keep in mind the internationally recognized term in the ATS industry is "requisition". This is also defined in the [http://www.hr-xml.org HRXML specification].

While I believe other non-standard options should be considered, it does not appear as though the hResume specification gave any consideration to HRXML, which does have a large adoption for backend transations regarding HR data (including resumes and requisitions).

==See also==
*[http://www.twict.gov.uk/jobs.asp Joined Up Jobs] (job syndication initiative in UK local government)
*[[currency]] - proposed microformat for marking-up amounts of money (for salary, wage, payment, earnings)

job-listing-brainstorming

2008-03-20T08:32:51Z

FilipCte: /* Filip Chereches-Tosa */

= Job Listing Brainstorming =

Ideas for a possible [[job-listing]] microformat.

== Fields from examples ==

(see the [[job-listing-examples]])

{| class="sortable"
! property || xhtml-element || description || major/minor (+/-) priority
|-
| title || h# || title of the job, e.g. 'Project-Manager for Customer-Service-Project' || +
|-
| description || class || job-description || +
|-
| company || [[hcard]] || || +
|-
| company size || class || || +
|-
| company logo || class || || -
|-
| multimedia || class || || -
|-
| location || [[adr]] || || +
|-
| start & end date || dtstart & dtend || :or should we use dstart for the date the ad is posted, and dtend for the closing date for aplications? || +
|-
| type (employee|contract) || class || || +
|-
| classification (full time|part time|temporary| temp to hire|seasonal|internship) || class || || +
|-
| hours/week || class || || +
|-
| salary base || class (see [[currency]]) || || +
|-
| salary max || class (see [[currency]]) || || +
|-
| wage/hour || class (see [[currency]]) || || +
|-
| education || class || ||
|-
| certification || class || ||
|-
| years || class || ||
|-
| required || class || ||
|-
| skill || class || management can fall under skill ||
|-
| years || class || ||
|-
| required || class || ||
|-
| benefit || class || ||
|-
| holiday allowance || || expressed in days or weeks? ||
|-
| contact || [[hcard]]
|-
| time posted || date-time || (is this dtstart? See above) ||
|-
| relocation covered || class || ||
|-
| job function || class || (if absent, fall back to title?) ||
|-
| travel required || class || ||
|-
| industry || || tag on company?
|-
| language of job-listing || <s>class</s> @lang on containing element (or use page's language) || ||
|-
| job-language || class || mainlanguage spoken with colleagues ||
|-
| applicationmaterial || class || e.g. cv, worksamples, licenses, greencard ||
|-
| organisationalid || class || number or phrase - large enterprises have an unique id for a specific job offer ||
|-
| applicationurl || class || Some companies require applicants to fill out application forms online ||
|-
|}

==Filip Chereches-Tosa==
* Hey guys, anyone still interested in making hJob a reality? A microformat for jobs would be really great! However, the current proposal is a bit too complex, IMO, almost half of the fields can be removed.
* Maybe there's no need to have a dedicated microformat for jobs and we could somehow extend [http://microformats.org/wiki/hlisting-proposal the hListing proposal], by adding the following optional fields under '''description''':
** salary
** education
** skills
** type

[[User:FilipCte|Filip C.T.E.]]

==Andy Mabbett==
"job-listing" is clunky, would "vacancy" be a better name?
*I second the change of name to "Vacancy". - [[User: NTollervey|ntoll]]
**I disagree, "vacancy" has no context. It could refer to anything - eg "hotel vacancy". - Quint
***In which case, "job-vacancy" or just "job"? [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

==Christian Pfetzing==

What about "job-offer"? Reason: People with low english-skills often know "offer" but not "vacancy".
On the other hand:
Why not easily "job"?
With an attribute you can specify if it is a "job-offer" or a "job-application". So human beeings/job-platforms can easily compare "offers" and "applications". Manually (humans) or automatic (machines) -- [[User:Christian|Christian]] 05:48, 28 Apr 2007 (PDT)

==Darren Bounds==

Keep in mind the internationally recognized term in the ATS industry is "requisition". This is also defined in the [http://www.hr-xml.org HRXML specification].

While I believe other non-standard options should be considered, it does not appear as though the hResume specification gave any consideration to HRXML, which does have a large adoption for backend transations regarding HR data (including resumes and requisitions).

==See also==
*[http://www.twict.gov.uk/jobs.asp Joined Up Jobs] (job syndication initiative in UK local government)
*[[currency]] - proposed microformat for marking-up amounts of money (for salary, wage, payment, earnings)

job-listing-brainstorming

2008-03-20T08:31:48Z

FilipCte: /* Filip Chereches-Tosa */

= Job Listing Brainstorming =

Ideas for a possible [[job-listing]] microformat.

== Fields from examples ==

(see the [[job-listing-examples]])

{| class="sortable"
! property || xhtml-element || description || major/minor (+/-) priority
|-
| title || h# || title of the job, e.g. 'Project-Manager for Customer-Service-Project' || +
|-
| description || class || job-description || +
|-
| company || [[hcard]] || || +
|-
| company size || class || || +
|-
| company logo || class || || -
|-
| multimedia || class || || -
|-
| location || [[adr]] || || +
|-
| start & end date || dtstart & dtend || :or should we use dstart for the date the ad is posted, and dtend for the closing date for aplications? || +
|-
| type (employee|contract) || class || || +
|-
| classification (full time|part time|temporary| temp to hire|seasonal|internship) || class || || +
|-
| hours/week || class || || +
|-
| salary base || class (see [[currency]]) || || +
|-
| salary max || class (see [[currency]]) || || +
|-
| wage/hour || class (see [[currency]]) || || +
|-
| education || class || ||
|-
| certification || class || ||
|-
| years || class || ||
|-
| required || class || ||
|-
| skill || class || management can fall under skill ||
|-
| years || class || ||
|-
| required || class || ||
|-
| benefit || class || ||
|-
| holiday allowance || || expressed in days or weeks? ||
|-
| contact || [[hcard]]
|-
| time posted || date-time || (is this dtstart? See above) ||
|-
| relocation covered || class || ||
|-
| job function || class || (if absent, fall back to title?) ||
|-
| travel required || class || ||
|-
| industry || || tag on company?
|-
| language of job-listing || <s>class</s> @lang on containing element (or use page's language) || ||
|-
| job-language || class || mainlanguage spoken with colleagues ||
|-
| applicationmaterial || class || e.g. cv, worksamples, licenses, greencard ||
|-
| organisationalid || class || number or phrase - large enterprises have an unique id for a specific job offer ||
|-
| applicationurl || class || Some companies require applicants to fill out application forms online ||
|-
|}

==Filip Chereches-Tosa==
* Hey guys, anyone still interested in making hJob a reality? A microformat for jobs would be really great! However, the current proposal is a bit too complex, IMO, almost half of the fields can be removed.
* Maybe there's no need to have a dedicated microformat for jobs and we could somehow extend [http://microformats.org/wiki/hlisting-proposal the hListing proposal]

[[User:FilipCte|Filip C.T.E.]]

==Andy Mabbett==
"job-listing" is clunky, would "vacancy" be a better name?
*I second the change of name to "Vacancy". - [[User: NTollervey|ntoll]]
**I disagree, "vacancy" has no context. It could refer to anything - eg "hotel vacancy". - Quint
***In which case, "job-vacancy" or just "job"? [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

==Christian Pfetzing==

What about "job-offer"? Reason: People with low english-skills often know "offer" but not "vacancy".
On the other hand:
Why not easily "job"?
With an attribute you can specify if it is a "job-offer" or a "job-application". So human beeings/job-platforms can easily compare "offers" and "applications". Manually (humans) or automatic (machines) -- [[User:Christian|Christian]] 05:48, 28 Apr 2007 (PDT)

==Darren Bounds==

Keep in mind the internationally recognized term in the ATS industry is "requisition". This is also defined in the [http://www.hr-xml.org HRXML specification].

While I believe other non-standard options should be considered, it does not appear as though the hResume specification gave any consideration to HRXML, which does have a large adoption for backend transations regarding HR data (including resumes and requisitions).

==See also==
*[http://www.twict.gov.uk/jobs.asp Joined Up Jobs] (job syndication initiative in UK local government)
*[[currency]] - proposed microformat for marking-up amounts of money (for salary, wage, payment, earnings)

job-listing-brainstorming

2008-03-19T20:22:39Z

FilipCte: /* Filip Chereches-Tosa */

= Job Listing Brainstorming =

Ideas for a possible [[job-listing]] microformat.

== Fields from examples ==

(see the [[job-listing-examples]])

{| class="sortable"
! property || xhtml-element || description || major/minor (+/-) priority
|-
| title || h# || title of the job, e.g. 'Project-Manager for Customer-Service-Project' || +
|-
| description || class || job-description || +
|-
| company || [[hcard]] || || +
|-
| company size || class || || +
|-
| company logo || class || || -
|-
| multimedia || class || || -
|-
| location || [[adr]] || || +
|-
| start & end date || dtstart & dtend || :or should we use dstart for the date the ad is posted, and dtend for the closing date for aplications? || +
|-
| type (employee|contract) || class || || +
|-
| classification (full time|part time|temporary| temp to hire|seasonal|internship) || class || || +
|-
| hours/week || class || || +
|-
| salary base || class (see [[currency]]) || || +
|-
| salary max || class (see [[currency]]) || || +
|-
| wage/hour || class (see [[currency]]) || || +
|-
| education || class || ||
|-
| certification || class || ||
|-
| years || class || ||
|-
| required || class || ||
|-
| skill || class || management can fall under skill ||
|-
| years || class || ||
|-
| required || class || ||
|-
| benefit || class || ||
|-
| holiday allowance || || expressed in days or weeks? ||
|-
| contact || [[hcard]]
|-
| time posted || date-time || (is this dtstart? See above) ||
|-
| relocation covered || class || ||
|-
| job function || class || (if absent, fall back to title?) ||
|-
| travel required || class || ||
|-
| industry || || tag on company?
|-
| language of job-listing || <s>class</s> @lang on containing element (or use page's language) || ||
|-
| job-language || class || mainlanguage spoken with colleagues ||
|-
| applicationmaterial || class || e.g. cv, worksamples, licenses, greencard ||
|-
| organisationalid || class || number or phrase - large enterprises have an unique id for a specific job offer ||
|-
| applicationurl || class || Some companies require applicants to fill out application forms online ||
|-
|}

==Filip Chereches-Tosa==
Hey guys, anyone still interested in making hJob a reality? A microformat for jobs would be really great!

However, the current proposal is a bit too complex, IMO, almost half of the fields can be removed.
[[User:FilipCte|Filip C.T.E.]]

==Andy Mabbett==
"job-listing" is clunky, would "vacancy" be a better name?
*I second the change of name to "Vacancy". - [[User: NTollervey|ntoll]]
**I disagree, "vacancy" has no context. It could refer to anything - eg "hotel vacancy". - Quint
***In which case, "job-vacancy" or just "job"? [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

==Christian Pfetzing==

What about "job-offer"? Reason: People with low english-skills often know "offer" but not "vacancy".
On the other hand:
Why not easily "job"?
With an attribute you can specify if it is a "job-offer" or a "job-application". So human beeings/job-platforms can easily compare "offers" and "applications". Manually (humans) or automatic (machines) -- [[User:Christian|Christian]] 05:48, 28 Apr 2007 (PDT)

==Darren Bounds==

Keep in mind the internationally recognized term in the ATS industry is "requisition". This is also defined in the [http://www.hr-xml.org HRXML specification].

While I believe other non-standard options should be considered, it does not appear as though the hResume specification gave any consideration to HRXML, which does have a large adoption for backend transations regarding HR data (including resumes and requisitions).

==See also==
*[http://www.twict.gov.uk/jobs.asp Joined Up Jobs] (job syndication initiative in UK local government)
*[[currency]] - proposed microformat for marking-up amounts of money (for salary, wage, payment, earnings)

User:FilipCte

2008-03-17T12:43:13Z

FilipCte:

Romanian web developer and entrepreneur, built the first open source job board platform, [http://www.jobberbase.com jobberBase.com], and highly active in various web communities.

Blogging in Romanian at [http://www.filipcte.ro filipcte.ro].

Also wrote a [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1904811825/ book about AJAX and PHP].

Very interested in a standard '''hJob''' microformat!

User:FilipCte

2008-03-17T12:42:27Z

FilipCte:

User:FilipCte

2008-03-17T12:41:00Z

FilipCte:

Romanian web developer and entrepreneur, built the first open source job board platform, [http://www.jobberbase.com jobberBase], and highly active in various web communities.
Blogging in Romanian at [http://www.filipcte.ro filipcte.ro].

job-listing-brainstorming

2008-03-17T12:39:00Z

FilipCte:

= Job Listing Brainstorming =

Ideas for a possible [[job-listing]] microformat.

== Fields from examples ==

(see the [[job-listing-examples]])

{| class="sortable"
! property || xhtml-element || description || major/minor (+/-) priority
|-
| title || h# || title of the job, e.g. 'Project-Manager for Customer-Service-Project' || +
|-
| description || class || job-description || +
|-
| company || [[hcard]] || || +
|-
| company size || class || || +
|-
| company logo || class || || -
|-
| multimedia || class || || -
|-
| location || [[adr]] || || +
|-
| start & end date || dtstart & dtend || :or should we use dstart for the date the ad is posted, and dtend for the closing date for aplications? || +
|-
| type (employee|contract) || class || || +
|-
| classification (full time|part time|temporary| temp to hire|seasonal|internship) || class || || +
|-
| hours/week || class || || +
|-
| salary base || class (see [[currency]]) || || +
|-
| salary max || class (see [[currency]]) || || +
|-
| wage/hour || class (see [[currency]]) || || +
|-
| education || class || ||
|-
| certification || class || ||
|-
| years || class || ||
|-
| required || class || ||
|-
| skill || class || management can fall under skill ||
|-
| years || class || ||
|-
| required || class || ||
|-
| benefit || class || ||
|-
| holiday allowance || || expressed in days or weeks? ||
|-
| contact || [[hcard]]
|-
| time posted || date-time || (is this dtstart? See above) ||
|-
| relocation covered || class || ||
|-
| job function || class || (if absent, fall back to title?) ||
|-
| travel required || class || ||
|-
| industry || || tag on company?
|-
| language of job-listing || <s>class</s> @lang on containing element (or use page's language) || ||
|-
| job-language || class || mainlanguage spoken with colleagues ||
|-
| applicationmaterial || class || e.g. cv, worksamples, licenses, greencard ||
|-
| organisationalid || class || number or phrase - large enterprises have an unique id for a specific job offer ||
|-
| applicationurl || class || Some companies require applicants to fill out application forms online ||
|-
|}

==Filip Chereches-Tosa==
Hey guys, anyone still interested in making hJob a reality?
I'm working at a Romanian start-up -- a vertical job search engine -- and we'll also launch it in the UK, in a few months. A microformat for jobs would be really great! :)
[[User:FilipCte|Filip C.T.E.]]

==Andy Mabbett==
"job-listing" is clunky, would "vacancy" be a better name?
*I second the change of name to "Vacancy". - [[User: NTollervey|ntoll]]
**I disagree, "vacancy" has no context. It could refer to anything - eg "hotel vacancy". - Quint
***In which case, "job-vacancy" or just "job"? [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

==Christian Pfetzing==

What about "job-offer"? Reason: People with low english-skills often know "offer" but not "vacancy".
On the other hand:
Why not easily "job"?
With an attribute you can specify if it is a "job-offer" or a "job-application". So human beeings/job-platforms can easily compare "offers" and "applications". Manually (humans) or automatic (machines) -- [[User:Christian|Christian]] 05:48, 28 Apr 2007 (PDT)

==Darren Bounds==

Keep in mind the internationally recognized term in the ATS industry is "requisition". This is also defined in the [http://www.hr-xml.org HRXML specification].

While I believe other non-standard options should be considered, it does not appear as though the hResume specification gave any consideration to HRXML, which does have a large adoption for backend transations regarding HR data (including resumes and requisitions).

==See also==
*[http://www.twict.gov.uk/jobs.asp Joined Up Jobs] (job syndication initiative in UK local government)
*[[currency]] - proposed microformat for marking-up amounts of money (for salary, wage, payment, earnings)