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hcard-advocacy

2008-02-03T08:00:04Z

GavinBell: /* Online Profiles */ added connotea.org librarything.com

<h1>hCard advocacy</h1>
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Adding [[hcard|hCard]] to these sites would make them quite handy for their users and for being indexed.

== Online Profiles ==
=== Sites to check ===
The following sites may have hCard or XFN support and need to be checked and placed into lists on [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles]] and [[hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists]] as well.
* http://amazon.com
* http://aol.com
* http://bebo.com
* http://bloglines.com
* http://blogspot.com
* http://connotea.org
* http://facebook.com
* http://hi5.com
* http://ilike.com
* http://imageshack.us
* http://librarything.com
* http://meetup.com
* http://mugshot.org
* http://multiply.com
* http://myspace.com
* http://network.nature.com
* http://picasaweb.google.com
* http://pictures.aol.com
* http://reader.google.com
* http://reddit.com
* http://smugmug.com
* http://socializr.com
* http://spaces.live.com
* http://stumbleupon.com
* http://travelpod.com
* http://tribe.net
* http://tumblr.com
* http://webshots.com
* http://xanga.com
* http://yelp.com
* http://ziki.com

=== User Profiles ===
Nearly every website that has a login has a page representing the public profile of the user that other users can see and interact with. Many such sites already [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles|support hCard]] (e.g. ClaimID.com, Flickr.com, Technorati.com). Here are some that I think would benefit from the addition of hCard to their profile / user pages, making them [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles]].

Feel free to add more such sites that have a social network profile-like component and we'll see what we can do. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST)
* Wikimedia - including this site, Wikipedia (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Microformats WikiProject Microformats]), Wikitravel, etc.
**It would be nice if <nowiki>[[User:YOURNAME]]</nowiki> links generated proper (mini)hCards. ([http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=12177&oldid=12173#Lazyweb per SteveIvy]; moved from 'to-do')
* http://360.yahoo.com
* http://alexa.com has online profiles for domains with contact information. Would be great if they could add hCard to those. 2007-04-18 [[User:Tantek]] requested of [[User:BenWest]] e.g.:
** http://www.alexa.com/data/details?url=alexa.com/
** http://www.alexa.com/data/details?url=w3.org/
* [http://dodgeball.com/ Dodgeball] profiles and venues need [[hcard|hCard]] for people and organizations
** [http://www.dodgeball.com/user?uid=30209 a profile]
** [http://www.dodgeball.com/venue?vid=23551 a venue] - could also use [[hreview|hReview]] for the user reviews listed there for the venue
* [http://www.icq.com/people ICQ people], where they show people's profiles and have a few ways of contacting and/or connection to people.
* http://youtube.com The very popular YouTube have profiles that do include some information that might use [[hcard|hCard]].
* [http://www.facebook.com Facebook] is a very popular (over 13 million members) community.
**Requested support of microformats in [http://flickr.com/photos/56624456@N00/1399881855/ openly asked question to Mark Zuckerberg (founder of Facebook) during Q&A at TechCrunch40 conference], and got [http://therealmccrea.wordpress.com/2007/09/18/facebook-to-support-open-standards/ lukewarm reply]. Glimmer of hope: "When it's important to our users, we'll do it." Thus if you are a Facebook user, please make a request to them to support microformats and tell them it is important to you. Feel free to add your name below. 2007-09-17 [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
*** Additional notes of Mark's response to Q above: "fits into context of push to open up in more ways, but keep in mind we're a really small company, under 300, so with respect to open standards, it's a matter of priorities. When it's important to our users we'll do it." Notes taken by John McCrea of Plaxo at TechCrunch40 conference.
**Requested in message to developer, 2007-09-28 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://anobii.com Anobii] - I asked them if they could implement hCard-supporting profiles and XFN on 2007-10-05 - [[User:JulianStahnke|Julian Stahnke]]
** Response: We will definitely spend some time to consider the suggestion.
** Got another mail from one of their developers, they’re looking into it.
* http://360.yahoo.com
* http://amazon.com
* http://aol.com
* http://bebo.com
* http://bloglines.com
* http://del.icio.us
* http://picasaweb.google.com
* http://pictures.aol.com
* http://socializr.com
* http://yelp.com
* http://youtube.com
* http://zooomr.com
* http://viddler.com

==== appear to be offline ====
* [http://idubyou.com/ i dub you] - appears to be 404 as of 2008-02-02 [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 20:28, 2 Feb 2008 (PST)

=== hCard XFN friends lists ===
In addition, if sites with people profiles have friends lists, we should encourage them to add support for [[hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists]]. Both of these help [[social-network-portability]] and help the site become a node on the [[open-social-web]].
* http://360.yahoo.com
* [http://dodgeball.com/ Dodgeball]

=== Company Profiles ===
* [http://getsatisfaction.com/ Satisfaction Unlimited], has company profiles, e.g. http://getsatisfaction.com/satisfaction/ that could be marked up with hCards.
** Contacted Ted Grubb at the company and requested hCards for company and its employees for all their company profiles. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 11:24, 2 Sep 2007 (PDT)

== Online Venues ==
There are many sites that offer pages that represent organizations and venues that could benefit from being marked up with hCard. [http://local.yahoo.com/ Yahoo Local] venues are marked up with hCards for example. Here are some more sites that have venues that would benefit from hCard markup.
* Yelp.com
* http://opentable.com - a site for making restaurant reservations
** [[hcard|hCard]] for restaurants
** [[hcalendar|hCalendar]] for free busy times at restaurants
** [[hcalendar|hCalendar]] for your reservations
** Tantek has emailed a friend who is a former employee of OpenTable with the above three requests, in the hopes she can pass on the message. In addition, Ryan King may know someone in marketing there. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 16:57, 30 Sep 2007 (PDT)

== Plugins for and modifications of web-applications ==
Many web-applications use plugin-systems to change their behavior and content. Most notable is probably web-forums and blogs. Many of these have a community of coders that develop plugins or code to modify the default behavior of these web-applications. Here are some sites where it might be interesting to develop hcard-related plugins/mods.

=== WYSIWYG buttons ===
In addition to getting them to markup obvious references to users/usernames with hCard, it would be great to see them update their WYSIWYG authoring interfaces (little creator/style buttons that often line up just above the top of a blog post editing textarea for creating links, lists etc.) to add a "person" button (perhaps with an icon http://microformats.org/wiki/skins/monobook/user.gif) which simply inserts [[hCard]] markup for you, or better yet, lets you pick someone from your address book, and then inserts an inline hCard with their name, URL (and perhaps even your [[XFN]] relationship to them) for you. While they're at it, perhaps a similar button/feature for easily inserting an [[hCalendar]] event.

=== Tools ===
* forum-software
** http://www.phpbb.com
* blog-software
** http://b2evolution.net
** WordPress
** Moveable Type
** LiveJournal

==Telephone Directory Listings==
Telephone Directory Listings could usefully apply hCard to their results pages, e.g. (please add other examples!):

* [http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/ BT]
** '''Requested''' via [http://tinyurl.com/yhtdjy BT feedback form], 2006-11-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
** BT confirm that they will consider this at their next re-build. 2006-12 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://118118.com 118118.com]
** '''Requested''' via e-mail, 2006-11-13. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://192.com/ 192.com]
** '''Requested''' via [http://www.192.com/support/feedback.cfm 192.com feedback form], 2007-03-07 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/download/features/skypefind/ SkypeFind]
** ''Requested''' via [http://support.skype.com/?_a=tickets&_m=submit Skype feedback form], 2007-03-16 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://www.whitepages.com/ White Pages (USA/ Canada)]
* [http://www.whitepages.com.au/ White Pages (Australia)]
* [http://www.switchboard.com/ Stitchboard (USA)]]
* [http://people.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! People Search (USA)]
* [http://www.whowhere.com/ Lycos People Search (USA)]
* [http://www.bsnl.co.in/map.htm BSNL (India)]
* [http://www.saynoto0870.com/ saynoto0870.com] (UK listings of geo vs. non-geo equivalents)
** '''Requested''' by feedback form, 2007-10-13. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

==Postal (ZIP) code Finders==
Postal code Finders could usefully apply hCard to their results pages. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 12:09, 13 Nov 2006 (PST)

e.g. (please add other examples!):
*[http://pol.royalmail.com/dda/txt/pf.asp Royal Mail] (UK)
**Requested via [http://tinyurl.com/ya4hzu Royal Mail feedback form], 2006-11-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
**Acknowledged 2006-11-30. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

==Government hCard==
===UK Gov. hCard===
* Parliament: [http://www.parliament.uk/directories/hciolists/alms.cfm Alphabetical List of Members of Parliament] (see also [http://www.parliament.uk/directories/directories.cfm other lists of MPs and Lords]). [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

===Europe Gov. hCard===
* e.g. [http://www.europarl.org.uk/uk_meps/westmidlands.asp UK MEPs]

=== MAPLight ===
http://maplight.org/ can use a bunch of hCard markup, e.g.
* individual politicians, like [http://www.maplight.org/map/us/legislator/408/individuals Nancy Pelosi]
* mentions of politicians on interest pages like [http://www.maplight.org/map/us/interest/L1300 Teachers unions]
* their contact info of course: http://www.maplight.org/contact
Requested by [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 12:13, 30 May 2007 (PDT) in person at the NetSquared2007 conference.

== Organization Contacts ==
Many companies and organizations have about or contact pages that could benefit from being marked up with hCard. [http://technorati.com/about/contact.html Technorati's contact page] for example is both marked up with hCard and has a convenient "Add to Address Book" hCard to vCard converter link. The following company sites could benefit from similar markup (and, until user agents support hCards natively, "Add to Address Book" links). [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST)
*Adobe
**[http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/offices.html Adobe offices]
***Requested using contact form, 2006-12-14. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
*claimID
**[http://claimid.com/people claimID people]
***requested via instant message with Terrell Russell (co-founder) 2007-11-20. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
*Google
**Contacts, e.g.
*** [http://www.google.com/intl/en/contact/index.html Google.com contact page]
**** Requested by asking Google Employee KevinMarks via instant messaging to add hCard to that page along with a "Add to Address Book" link [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 11:32, 10 Apr 2007 (PDT) and RyanKing in IRC
*** [http://www.google.co.uk/intl/en/contact/index.html Google UK], etc.
*[http://ibm.com/ IBM]
**[http://www.ibm.com/contact/us/ IBM contact page]
*** Requested by asking IBM employee Michael Kaply via IRC 2007-07-31 08:57am PDT: "how about getting hCard and 'Add to address book' links on the IBM contact page?"
*[http://www.mozilla.com/ Mozilla]
**[http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/about/legal.html Mozilla legal notices]
*Opera
**People, e.g. [http://people.opera.com/howcome/ Håkon Wium Lie]; could also be hResume
*W3C
**[http://www.w3.org/Consortium/contact W3C contact]
**[http://www.w3.org/People/all W3C Staff listing] and individual pages, e.g. [http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/ Tim Berners-Lee]
***Requested by e-mail. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

== Individual hCards ==
Getting these sites to at least add hCard to their home page or contact info page and then [http://pingerati.net/ping/ ping Pingerati] would be an excellent start with getting them some experience with microformats and thinking about adding microformats to other places in their sites that make sense:
* [http://metaweb.com/ Metaweb Technologies]
** [http://www.freebase.com/ Freebase ]

==Trade directories==
* [http://www.booktrust.org.uk/info/search_publishers.php BookTrust (UK book publishers)]
* [http://www.gepir.org/ Global Electronic Party Information Register] (GEPIR) over 1 million companies
** Requested 2007-08-31 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

==Store locators==
(see [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22store+locator%22 Google search for "store locator"]; "about 2,000,000" results!)
* [http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ArgosGSGiftModeExitCmd?action=ArgosStoreLocatorMain?langId=-1&storeId=10001 Argos (UK)]
* [http://www.multimap.com/clients/places.cgi?client=asda_sf Asda (UK; part of WalMart)]
* [http://www.boots.com/storelocator/store_search.jsp Boots (UK)]
* [http://www.mcdonalds.co.uk/asp/locator/index.asp McDonalds (UK)]
* [http://www.tesco.com/storelocator/ Tesco (UK)]

==Other hCard==
* [http://www.imdb.com/ Internet Movie Database] (IMDb) for people (real, not characters), e.g. [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000007/ Humphrey Bogart]. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 02:49, 13 Nov 2006 (PST)
**Can't find contact info! [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
**See also example, below.
*Wikitravel
**e.g. [http://wikitravel.org/en/Birmingham_%28England%29 Wikitravel - Birmingham]
***[http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:MarkJaroski&curid=2699&diff=0&oldid=10663&rcid=19955 Wikitravel is about to hugely roll out hCard] Mark Jaroski
***See also [http://wikitravel.org/en/Wikitravel:Microformats Wikitravel:Microformats]
*[http://orlabs.oclc.org/Identities/ WorldCat Identities]
**The recently prototyped WorldCat Identities provides pages for 20 million 'identities', mainly authors and people who are the subjects of published titles.
**Requested by feedback form, 2007-03-09 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
** No reply, as of 02:02, 13 Jun 2007 (PDT)
*[http://geonames.org GeoNames]
**Requested by e-mail, 2007-06-07 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
**Reply confirms that they will deploy hCard and Geo
**Geo noted in use, 06:08, 30 Jul 2007 (PDT)
*[http://www.oup.com/oxforddnb/info/ Oxford Dictionary of National Biography] (ODNB); subscription based, but [http://www.oxforddnb.com/public/lotw/ some ODNB articles available free]. All 56,000+ entries have Date of Death.
*[http://www.findagrave.com/ Find-a-Grave] e.g. [http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=680 Karl Marx]. Most entries have Date of Death.
*[http://www.biography.com/ Biography.com] e.g. [http://www.biography.com/impressionists/monet-bio.jsp Camille Monet] Most posthumous entries have Date of Death.
*[http://www.cwgc.org/ Commonwealth War Graves Commission] (1.75 million people's details)
**E-mail sent 2007-08-24. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
*Civil Aviation Authority; UK aircraft register
** e.g [http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid=1&mode=detailnosummary&fullregmark=G-MOUR G-MOUR]
*[http://chicago.everyblock.com/ Chicago Everyblock]

== Successes ==
Perhaps we can consider moving successes to a separate page, like [[hcard-advocacy-successes]]. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
*Details of hCard should be added to the [http://www.imc.org/pdi/ Internet Mail Consortium's vCard page]
**Requested by e-mail, 2006-11-24 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
**'''Success''' achieved 2006-11-25. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
*W3C
**'''W3C webmaster''' [http://www.w3.org/People/Jean-Gui/ Jean-Guilhem Rouel] now has an hCard. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 15:41, 4 Apr 2007 (PDT)
* [http://jpgmag.com/ JPG magazine] - have sent email to their web developer with sample marked up member profile with [[hcard|hCard]] and [[xfn]] [[rel-me|rel="me"]]. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 23:48, 21 Feb 2007 (PST)
** [[hcard|hCard]]+[[xfn]] [[rel-me|rel="me"]] support as of March 2007.
* Twitter.com - working on it [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST).
** Completed [[hcard|hCard]]+[[xfn]]+[[hatom|hAtom]] support last week with help from Chris Messina. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 12:01, 16 May 2007 (PDT)
* Consumating.com - working on it [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST)
** [[hcard|hCard]] profiles, [[hcalendar|hCalendar]] events as of March 2007.
* [http://sunlightlabs.com/api/ SunlightLabs API] provides profiles for US Congresspeople. Their [http://sunlightlabs.com/api/masterref/megatable.php megatable] could easily be marked up with hCard, and their APIs could return hCards and hCard fields.
** [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 12:30, 20 Apr 2007 (PDT) contacted them and requested that they add hCard to megatable, consider a GethCard API method, and potentially a GethResume API method for each person.
** [[User:CarlAnderson|CarlAnderson]] 26 Apr 2007: http://sunlightlabs.com/api does now have a people.getHCard.php API method to get an hCard for every member of congress. See the documentation at http://sunlightlabs.com/api/people.getHCard.php. An example call: http://api.sunlightlabs.com/people.getHCard.php?id=fakeopenID1
** [[User:CarlAnderson|CarlAnderson]] 30 Apr 2007: I created a page of hCards for every member of congress: http://sunlightlabs.com/api/hcards/index.php
* [http://pownce.com Pownce] - I'm talking with them, and have requested the following (and a bit more) as of 2007-07-29 - [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
** needs to add class="photo" to image icon
*** 2007-09-02 success!
** needs to add class="note" to description
*** 2007-09-02 success!
** needs to add hCard+XFN to friends lists.
*** 2007-09-02 partial success, friends lists have hCard, have asked Daniel Burka to add rel="acquaintance" per [[xfn-clarifications#are_you_my_friend_yes_or_no|XFN clarifications for yes/no friend relationships]]. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 10:41, 3 Sep 2007 (PDT)
**** 2008-01 success!
** 2007-09-02 note also XFN rel="me" success: http://pownce.com/t/notes/644806/

===Wikpedia hCard===
*Infobox Templates for people mostly now have [[hcard|hCard]] in their generated markup
** [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Person Infobox_Person]; e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._O._Wilson E. O. Wilson]
** [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_actor Infobox_actor]; e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphrey_Bogart Humphrey Bogart]
*Addressable buildings e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Old_Crown%2C_Birmingham The Old Crown, Birmingham]
*Tourist attractions, e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadbury_World%2C_Birmingham Cadbury World]
*Companies, e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesco Tesco] (note headquarters address in infobox)
*Railway Stations, e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_Barr_railway_station Perry Barr]
*etc.
*See also [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Microformats WikiProject Microformats] [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 13:10, 28 Jan 2007 (PST)
* See also [[persondata|discussion of Wikipedia's Persondata]], which aligns very closely with hCard, but has additional date and place of birth & death fields. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 13:23, 28 Mar 2007 (PDT)

Some microformat data is now (2007-09-14) being removed from Wikipedia; see, for example [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Gaudi_Buildings&diff=prev&oldid=157704557 List_of_Gaudi_Buildings]

==See also==
*[[advocacy]] (in particular see [[advocacy#Geo|Geo advocacy]] - for the Geo microformat, including cases where it may be used inside hCard)
*[[advocacy-email-samples]]
{{hcard-related-pages}}

User:GavinBell

2007-12-13T15:33:25Z

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I'm Gavin Bell, hello.

More about me on [http://gavinbell.com gavinbell.com]

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2007-12-13T15:32:41Z

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events/2008-london-microformats-vevent

2007-12-13T15:31:04Z

GavinBell: /* Attending */

= London Microformats vEvent =

This is a social [[events|event]] planned for the first quarter of 2008 in London.

__TOC__

== Details ==

TBC

This page will be filled as details are decided.

== Summary ==
We hope to put on a small social event in London in the first quarter of 2008. It'll feature a couple of speakers on the topic of microformats and the semantic web and hopefully some drinks too.

'''Note:''' '''If you don't want to sign up for the wiki''' to register your interest, drop a comment on this blog entry instead. Thanks! http://fberriman.com/2007/12/12/london-microformats-vevent/

== Organisers ==
*[[User:Phae|Frances Berriman]] - http://fberriman.com
*[[User:DrewMcLellan|Drew McLellan]] - http://allinthehead.com

== Attending ==
Please put yourself down if you're interested in attending an event in the first part of 2008. We're currently using this page to gauge interest right now.
#Luca Postpischl (february would be better for me)
# PJ Barry
# Jonathan Chetwynd - http://www.peepo.co.uk
# James Darling
# Jason Cale
# David Thompson
# Adam Liptrot
# Mark Ford
# Elliot Jay Stocks
# Mark Ng
# Julian Stahnke
# Simon Jobling
# George Ornbo
# Ben Ward
# [[User:Adactio|Jeremy Keith]]
# [[User:Premasagar|Premasagar Rose]]
# Suleiman Leadbitter
# Matthew Pennell
# Dirk Ginader
# Ribot
# Matt Harris
# [[User:NeilCrosby|Neil Crosby]]
# David Emery
# [[User:Dotcode|Jude Robinson]]
# [[User:TomMorris|Tom Morris]]
# [[User:CtrlSpc| Jason Marshall]]
# [[User:NigelCrawley| Nigel Crawley]]
# Glenn Jones
# [[User:IvanOats | Ivan Storck]]
# [[User:Antix | Anthony Johnston]]
# [[User:LaurianGridinoc | Laurian Gridinoc]]
# [[User:Utku | Utku Can Akyuz]]
# Andy Field
# [[User:RiccardoCambiassi|Riccardo Cambiassi]]
# Phil Parry
# [[User:CazMockett|Caz Mockett]]
# [[User:LightSurgery|Justin Goring]]
# [[User:RichardDallaway|Richard Dallaway]]
# David Singleton
# Jake Archibald
# James Stewart
# [[User:GavinBell|Gavin Bell]]

== Blog Posts ==

== Photos ==

== Additional Links / Information ==

social-network-portability

2007-10-16T15:02:25Z

GavinBell: /* Articles */ added xtech provenance paper by Gavin Bell

<h1> Social Network Portability </h1>
{{TOC-right}}
Social network portability is one of several [[user-interface]] ideas and suggestions for working with microformats in the area of [[data-portability]].

== The Problem ==
Why is it that every single social network community site makes you:
* re-enter all your personal profile info (name, email, birthday, URL etc.)?
* re-add all your friends?

In addition, why do you have to:
* re-turn off notifications?
* re-specify privacy preferences?
* re-block [http://headrush.typepad.com/creating_passionate_users/2006/04/angrynegative_p.html negative people]?

AKA "social network fatigue problem" and "social network update/maintenance problem".

== The Goals ==
When you join a new site, you should be able to ''import'' or preferably ''subscribe'' to
* your profile information
* your social network
from any existing profile of yours.

In addition it would be nice if preferences around:
* notifications
* [[privacy]]
also transferred between profiles.

AKA a social internetwork, a network of social networks.

== Design Patterns and Recipes ==

The "How To" for social network profile sites that want to solve the above problems and achieve the above goals.

# Publish microformats in your user profiles:
## implement [[hcard|hCard]] on user profile pages, including [[xfn]] rel="me" on hyperlinks to users' blogs or home pages that they specify. See [[hcard-supporting-profiles]] for sites that have already done this.
## implement [[hcard|hCard]]+[[xfn|XFN]] on the list of friends on your user profile pages. Use [[xfn]] rel="me" to link to friends list pages and friends list pagination links too. See [[hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists]] for sites that already do this. (e.g. [[http://twitter.com/ Twitter]]).
# Subscribe to microformats for your user profiles:
## when signing up a new user:
### let a user fill out and "auto-sync" from one of their existing [[hcard-supporting-profiles]], their name, their icon etc. [http://microformats.org/blog/2007/06/21/microformatsorg-turns-2/ Satisfaction Inc already supports this.]
### let a user fill out and "auto-sync" their list of friends from one of their existing [[hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists|hCard+XFN supporting friends lists]]. [http://microformats.org/blog/2007/06/21/microformatsorg-turns-2/ Dopplr.com already supports this.]

== Resources ==
=== Groups ===
* [http://ma.gnolia.com/groups/PSN Ma.gnolia Portable Social Networks group] for aggregated bookmarks around the subject and join the group to share links.
* [http://upcoming.yahoo.com/group/3601/ Upcoming Social Network Portability group] for events to discuss and implement social network portability.
=== Open Source ===
* [[hKit]] - web service and open source PHP for parsing/importing/subscribing to [[hcard-supporting-profiles|hCard open user profiles]].
* "[http://opensocialgraph.plaxo.com/ Online Identity Consolidator]" rel="me" web parser/crawler web service and open source Python.
* "[http://django-psn.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/readme.html Django-PSN (portable social networks)]" open source for a user interface to create links on a social network profile to "other profiles" marked up with rel="me" naturally. The code can be seen in action on the [http://pownce.com Pownce] website, e.g. on [http://pownce.com/t/ a Pownce profile page that links to other profiles of the same user]. This is a great complement to the above Plaxo Online Identity Consolidator. What Django-PSN publishes, Plaxo Online Identity Consolidator parses.
* [http://code.google.com/p/identity-matcher/ identity-matcher] - Rails plugin to match identities and social network information from sites such as GMail, Twitter, Flickr, Facebook and any site supporting appropriate microformats. This code was extracted and contributed from Dopplr.

=== User Interfaces ===
* "[http://gerardramos.com/mf/ Social Network Portability with Microformats]" - a user interface that lets you check how portable your social network is across various sites.

== Social Network Portability FAQ ==
See [[social-network-portability-faq]].

== Issues ==
* Beware of and avoid [[social-network-anti-patterns]]!
* See and add to [[social-network-portability-issues]].

== Discussion and suggestions ==
* 2006-11-21 Jeremy Keith: [http://adactio.com/journal/1209/ Twittering]: <blockquote>Here’s what I want: when I go to the latest social networking fadsite, I want it to ask for my URL. Then it can go off and fetch my [[hcard|hCard]] and [[xfn|XFN]] list. A pre-filled form for my details and a pre-filled list of potential contacts can then be presented to me.</blockquote>
* 2006-11-21 Derek Featherstone: [http://www.boxofchocolates.ca/archives/2006/11/21/solving-problems-with-social-networking Solving problems with social networking]
* 2006-11-22 Thomas Vander Wal: [http://www.personalinfocloud.com/2006/11/following_frien.html Following Friends Across Walled Gardens]
* 2006-11-23 Jeremy Keith: [http://adactio.com/journal/1212/ More thoughts on portable social networks]
* 2006-11-23 Glenn Jones: [http://www.glennjones.net/Post/820/Microformatsandportablesocialnetwork.htm Microformats and portable social network]
* 2006-11-23 Velvetsarah has [http://www.velvet.id.au/2006/11/23/portable-social-networks/ posted a screenshot and brainstorm] about how a site could handle importing XFN enabled contacts.
[http://www.velvet.id.au/2006/11/23/portable-social-networks/ http://www.velvet.id.au/out/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/picture-9.png]
* 2007-03-11 Robert Gaal: [http://www.53miles.com/archives/making-openid-your-only-online-profile-alpha-dash Making OpenID your only online profile: Alpha Dash] - An abstract attempt to create one dashboard, to be used as a starting point for all social networks. It contains four elements: identity, ownership, presence and contacts (see comments also)
* 2007-06-20 Alper Çuğun: [http://fourstarters.com/2007/06/20/the-future-of-everything-is-social-consolidate-and-take-back-your-social-network/ The Future of Everything is Social: Consolidate and take back your social network]
* 2007-07-17 Kevin Lawver: [http://www.lawver.net/archive/2007/07/17/h12_portable_social_networks_at_mashup_camp.php A Portable Social Network Prototype] - A simple Ruby on Rails app that uses OpenID + XFN to look for users of the site w/ the same homepage as the href value and allows you to add them as contacts.
* 2007-07-18 Jeremiah Owyang: [http://twitter.com/jowyang/statuses/156097392 Twittering]: <blockquote>What if we could port all our friends and family from one social network to another. Why do we have to continue to add people = annoying</blockquote>
* 2007-07-18 Brian Oberkirch: [http://www.brianoberkirch.com/2007/07/18/highrise-microformats-and-portable-social-networks/ Highrise, microformats and portable social networks]
* 2007-07-24 Thomas Vander Wal: [http://vanderwal.net/random/entrysel.php?blog=1937 Sharing and Following/Listening in the Social Web]
* See [[events/2007-07-28-portable-social-networks-meetup#blog_posts|blog posts following up]] from the [[events/2007-07-28-portable-social-networks-meetup|2007-07-28-portable social networks meetup]].
* 2007-08-01 Jeffrey Zeldman: [http://www.zeldman.com/2007/08/01/social-network-portability/ "InterNetwork" regarding social network portability]
* 2007-08-08 Brian Oberkirch: [http://www.brianoberkirch.com/2007/08/08/building-blocks-for-portable-social-networks/ Building Blocks for Portable Social Networks]
* 2007-08-16 Stephanie Booth: [http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2007/08/16/we-need-structured-portable-social-networks-spsn/ We Need Structured Portable Social Networks (SPSN)] (links to two more posts on the subject, but not certain they're relevant enough for a separate listing; edit as you see fit)
* 2007-09-07 [[User:LynX|Carlo v. Loesch]]: [http://about.psyc.eu/Social_network#But.._why_microformats.3F Privacy and the web? Notification and HTTP? Are you looking at the right technologies!?]

See [http://ma.gnolia.com/groups/PSN ma.gnolia Portable Social Network Group] for aggregated bookmarks around the subject and join the group to share links.

[http://technorati.com/search/microformats.org/wiki/social-network-portability View blog reactions] to this page.

== Articles ==
* 2007-05-16 [http://2007.xtech.org/public/schedule/paper/69 What is your provenance?] by Gavin Bell for Xtech 2007. Also available on [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8663100900373306094 Google Video]
* 2007-08-25 [http://www.ignitesocialmedia.com/linking-it-all-%e2%80%93-social-network-portability/ Linking It All-Social Network Portability] by Mike Lotz for Ignite Social Media
* 2007-08-17 [http://bradfitz.com/social-graph-problem/ Thoughts on the Social Graph] by Brad Fitzpatrick.
* 2007-08-15 [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6944653.stm Pull down the walled gardens] Internet law professor Michael Geist says the walled gardens of social networks should be pulled down.
* 2007-08-02
** [http://www.brosbeforeblogs.com/2007/08/identity-crisis.html Identity Crisis part 1] <blockquote>We need to put the ownership of how we define relationships online in the hands of the individual, not the services that utilize them.My theory on how this should be accomplished is based on a marriage of OpenID and an open standard for defining relationships such as the [[XFN]] [http://microformats.org/ Microformat]. </blockquote>
** [http://www.brianoberkirch.com/2007/08/02/deeelightful-making-profile-import-a-snap/ Deeelightful: Making Profile Import a Snap] <blockquote>Why not make it simple for them to jumpstart a profile by reusing information they already have on the [[hcard|Web? Some forward thinking Web services are marking up user profile data with hCard, a microformat that]] signifies a person, place or organization is being described.</blockquote>

== See also ==
* [[user-interface]]
* [[data-portability]]
* [[hcard|hCard]]
* [[xfn]]
* [[social-network-anti-patterns]]

== Related Events and Notes ==
(if you know of or can find earlier mentions on the web of "social network portability", please add the earliest reference elsewhere on the web to this chronology. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 08:25, 22 Aug 2007 (PDT))

* [http://www.personalinfocloud.com/2006/11/following_frien.html 2006-11-22 Following Friends Across Walled Gardens] Thomas Vander Wal
* [http://adactio.com/journal/1212/ 2006-11-23 More thoughts on portable social networks] Jeremy Keith describes the process of portability
* [http://www.glennjones.net/Post/820/Mircoformatsandportablesocialnetwork.htm 2006-11-23 Microformats and portable social network] Glenn Jones talks about portable social networks in the backnetwork
*[http://microformats.org/wiki?title=user-interface&diff=10524&oldid=10523 2006-11-24 "social network portability" phrase and problem statement introduced to microformats wiki] by [[User:Tantek|Tantek Çelik]]
*[http://www.plaxo.com/about/releases/release-20070718 2007-07-17 Plaxo Pushes For "Open Social Web": Endorses and implements key open standards, OpenID and microformats]
*[[events/2007-07-28-portable-social-networks-meetup|2007-07-28 portable social networks initial meeting]] between Daniel Burka, [[User:Tantek|Tantek Çelik]], Eran Globen, Brian Oberkirch at Ritual Coffee Roasters, San Francisco, CA. Discussed portable social networks, simplified and crystalized problem statement (with progressive problems to solve), goals, design patterns, recipes. Created [[social-network-portability]] page.
* [[events/2007-08-19-social-network-portability-today|2007-08-19 BarCampBlock session on social network portability TODAY]] at Princeton Review offices, High Street, Palo Alto, CA. Reviewed problem statement, how sites can use the [[hcard|hCard]] and [[xfn|XFN]] microformats *today* to become a node on the "open social web" (phrase introduced).
* [[events/2007-08-28-social-network-portability-today|2007-08-28 Social Network Portability Today]] lunchtime meetup
* [[events/2007-09-05-dconstruct-microformats-workshop|2007-09-05 d.Construct workshop on microformats]] which covered both [[data-portability]] and [[social-network-portability]].
* [[events/2007-09-08-social-network-portability|2007-09-08 BarCampBrighton session on social network portability]] at Madgex offices, North Street, Brighton, England.
* [[events/2007-09-25-social-network-portability|2007-09-25 Portable Social Network Micro Meetup]] at Citizen Space, San Francisco, CA, USA.
* 2007-10-04 [[events/2007-10-04-fundamentos-web-social-network-portability|Fundamentos Web: Social Network Portability]] by Tantek Çelik — Gijón, Spain

See the microformats [[events]] page for upcoming events related to social network portability.

== Alternative Approaches ==
Non-web based:
* [http://about.psyc.eu psyc] and [http://www.psyced.org psyced], a decentralized multi-protocol chat and event notification system with [http://about.psyc.eu/Social_Network friendship] and [http://about.psyc.eu/Trust trust] modeling.