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hcard-advocacy

2008-02-03T06:54:23Z

JosephSmarr: /* User Profiles */

<h1>hCard advocacy</h1>
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Adding [[hcard|hCard]] to these sites would make them quite handy for their users and for being indexed.

== Online Profiles ==
=== Sites to check ===
The following sites may have hCard or XFN support and need to be checked and placed into lists on [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles]] and [[hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists]] as well.
* http://amazon.com
* http://aol.com
* http://bebo.com
* http://bloglines.com
* http://blogspot.com
* http://del.icio.us
* http://dopplr.com
* http://facebook.com
* http://hi5.com
* http://ilike.com
* http://imageshack.us
* http://jaiku.com
* http://meetup.com
* http://mugshot.org
* http://multiply.com
* http://myspace.com
* http://network.nature.com
* http://picasaweb.google.com
* http://pictures.aol.com
* http://reader.google.com
* http://reddit.com
* http://smugmug.com
* http://socializr.com
* http://spaces.live.com
* http://stumbleupon.com
* http://travelpod.com
* http://tribe.net
* http://tumblr.com
* http://webshots.com
* http://xanga.com
* http://yelp.com
* http://youtube.com
* http://ziki.com
* http://zooomr.com

=== User Profiles ===
Nearly every website that has a login has a page representing the public profile of the user that other users can see and interact with. Many such sites already [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles|support hCard]] (e.g. ClaimID.com, Flickr.com, Technorati.com). Here are some that I think would benefit from the addition of hCard to their profile / user pages, making them [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles]].

Feel free to add more such sites that have a social network profile-like component and we'll see what we can do. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST)
* Wikimedia - including this site, Wikipedia (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Microformats WikiProject Microformats]), Wikitravel, etc.
**It would be nice if <nowiki>[[User:YOURNAME]]</nowiki> links generated proper (mini)hCards. ([http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=12177&oldid=12173#Lazyweb per SteveIvy]; moved from 'to-do')
* http://360.yahoo.com
* http://alexa.com has online profiles for domains with contact information. Would be great if they could add hCard to those. 2007-04-18 [[User:Tantek]] requested of [[User:BenWest]] e.g.:
** http://www.alexa.com/data/details?url=alexa.com/
** http://www.alexa.com/data/details?url=w3.org/
* [http://dodgeball.com/ Dodgeball] profiles and venues need [[hcard|hCard]] for people and organizations
** [http://www.dodgeball.com/user?uid=30209 a profile]
** [http://www.dodgeball.com/venue?vid=23551 a venue] - could also use [[hreview|hReview]] for the user reviews listed there for the venue
* [http://www.icq.com/people ICQ people], where they show people's profiles and have a few ways of contacting and/or connection to people.
* http://youtube.com The very popular YouTube have profiles that do include some information that might use [[hcard|hCard]].
* [http://www.facebook.com Facebook] is a very popular (over 13 million members) community.
**Requested support of microformats in [http://flickr.com/photos/56624456@N00/1399881855/ openly asked question to Mark Zuckerberg (founder of Facebook) during Q&A at TechCrunch40 conference], and got [http://therealmccrea.wordpress.com/2007/09/18/facebook-to-support-open-standards/ lukewarm reply]. Glimmer of hope: "When it's important to our users, we'll do it." Thus if you are a Facebook user, please make a request to them to support microformats and tell them it is important to you. Feel free to add your name below. 2007-09-17 [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
*** Additional notes of Mark's response to Q above: "fits into context of push to open up in more ways, but keep in mind we're a really small company, under 300, so with respect to open standards, it's a matter of priorities. When it's important to our users we'll do it." Notes taken by John McCrea of Plaxo at TechCrunch40 conference.
**Requested in message to developer, 2007-09-28 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://anobii.com Anobii] - I asked them if they could implement hCard-supporting profiles and XFN on 2007-10-05 - [[User:JulianStahnke|Julian Stahnke]]
** Response: We will definitely spend some time to consider the suggestion.
** Got another mail from one of their developers, they’re looking into it.
* http://360.yahoo.com
* http://amazon.com
* http://aol.com
* http://bebo.com
* http://bloglines.com
* http://del.icio.us
* http://picasaweb.google.com
* http://pictures.aol.com
* http://socializr.com
* http://yelp.com
* http://youtube.com
* http://zooomr.com

==== appear to be offline ====
* [http://idubyou.com/ i dub you] - appears to be 404 as of 2008-02-02 [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 20:28, 2 Feb 2008 (PST)

=== hCard XFN friends lists ===
In addition, if sites with people profiles have friends lists, we should encourage them to add support for [[hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists]]. Both of these help [[social-network-portability]] and help the site become a node on the [[open-social-web]].
* http://360.yahoo.com
* [http://dodgeball.com/ Dodgeball]

=== Company Profiles ===
* [http://getsatisfaction.com/ Satisfaction Unlimited], has company profiles, e.g. http://getsatisfaction.com/satisfaction/ that could be marked up with hCards.
** Contacted Ted Grubb at the company and requested hCards for company and its employees for all their company profiles. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 11:24, 2 Sep 2007 (PDT)

== Online Venues ==
There are many sites that offer pages that represent organizations and venues that could benefit from being marked up with hCard. [http://local.yahoo.com/ Yahoo Local] venues are marked up with hCards for example. Here are some more sites that have venues that would benefit from hCard markup.
* Yelp.com
* http://opentable.com - a site for making restaurant reservations
** [[hcard|hCard]] for restaurants
** [[hcalendar|hCalendar]] for free busy times at restaurants
** [[hcalendar|hCalendar]] for your reservations
** Tantek has emailed a friend who is a former employee of OpenTable with the above three requests, in the hopes she can pass on the message. In addition, Ryan King may know someone in marketing there. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 16:57, 30 Sep 2007 (PDT)

== Plugins for and modifications of web-applications ==
Many web-applications use plugin-systems to change their behavior and content. Most notable is probably web-forums and blogs. Many of these have a community of coders that develop plugins or code to modify the default behavior of these web-applications. Here are some sites where it might be interesting to develop hcard-related plugins/mods.

=== WYSIWYG buttons ===
In addition to getting them to markup obvious references to users/usernames with hCard, it would be great to see them update their WYSIWYG authoring interfaces (little creator/style buttons that often line up just above the top of a blog post editing textarea for creating links, lists etc.) to add a "person" button (perhaps with an icon http://microformats.org/wiki/skins/monobook/user.gif) which simply inserts [[hCard]] markup for you, or better yet, lets you pick someone from your address book, and then inserts an inline hCard with their name, URL (and perhaps even your [[XFN]] relationship to them) for you. While they're at it, perhaps a similar button/feature for easily inserting an [[hCalendar]] event.

=== Tools ===
* forum-software
** http://www.phpbb.com
* blog-software
** http://b2evolution.net
** WordPress
** Moveable Type
** LiveJournal

==Telephone Directory Listings==
Telephone Directory Listings could usefully apply hCard to their results pages, e.g. (please add other examples!):

* [http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/ BT]
** '''Requested''' via [http://tinyurl.com/yhtdjy BT feedback form], 2006-11-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
** BT confirm that they will consider this at their next re-build. 2006-12 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://118118.com 118118.com]
** '''Requested''' via e-mail, 2006-11-13. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://192.com/ 192.com]
** '''Requested''' via [http://www.192.com/support/feedback.cfm 192.com feedback form], 2007-03-07 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/download/features/skypefind/ SkypeFind]
** ''Requested''' via [http://support.skype.com/?_a=tickets&_m=submit Skype feedback form], 2007-03-16 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://www.whitepages.com/ White Pages (USA/ Canada)]
* [http://www.whitepages.com.au/ White Pages (Australia)]
* [http://www.switchboard.com/ Stitchboard (USA)]]
* [http://people.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! People Search (USA)]
* [http://www.whowhere.com/ Lycos People Search (USA)]
* [http://www.bsnl.co.in/map.htm BSNL (India)]
* [http://www.saynoto0870.com/ saynoto0870.com] (UK listings of geo vs. non-geo equivalents)
** '''Requested''' by feedback form, 2007-10-13. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

==Postal (ZIP) code Finders==
Postal code Finders could usefully apply hCard to their results pages. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 12:09, 13 Nov 2006 (PST)

e.g. (please add other examples!):
*[http://pol.royalmail.com/dda/txt/pf.asp Royal Mail] (UK)
**Requested via [http://tinyurl.com/ya4hzu Royal Mail feedback form], 2006-11-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
**Acknowledged 2006-11-30. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

==Government hCard==
===UK Gov. hCard===
* Parliament: [http://www.parliament.uk/directories/hciolists/alms.cfm Alphabetical List of Members of Parliament] (see also [http://www.parliament.uk/directories/directories.cfm other lists of MPs and Lords]). [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

===Europe Gov. hCard===
* e.g. [http://www.europarl.org.uk/uk_meps/westmidlands.asp UK MEPs]

=== MAPLight ===
http://maplight.org/ can use a bunch of hCard markup, e.g.
* individual politicians, like [http://www.maplight.org/map/us/legislator/408/individuals Nancy Pelosi]
* mentions of politicians on interest pages like [http://www.maplight.org/map/us/interest/L1300 Teachers unions]
* their contact info of course: http://www.maplight.org/contact
Requested by [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 12:13, 30 May 2007 (PDT) in person at the NetSquared2007 conference.

== Organization Contacts ==
Many companies and organizations have about or contact pages that could benefit from being marked up with hCard. [http://technorati.com/about/contact.html Technorati's contact page] for example is both marked up with hCard and has a convenient "Add to Address Book" hCard to vCard converter link. The following company sites could benefit from similar markup (and, until user agents support hCards natively, "Add to Address Book" links). [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST)
*Adobe
**[http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/offices.html Adobe offices]
***Requested using contact form, 2006-12-14. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
*claimID
**[http://claimid.com/people claimID people]
***requested via instant message with Terrell Russell (co-founder) 2007-11-20. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
*Google
**Contacts, e.g.
*** [http://www.google.com/intl/en/contact/index.html Google.com contact page]
**** Requested by asking Google Employee KevinMarks via instant messaging to add hCard to that page along with a "Add to Address Book" link [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 11:32, 10 Apr 2007 (PDT) and RyanKing in IRC
*** [http://www.google.co.uk/intl/en/contact/index.html Google UK], etc.
*[http://ibm.com/ IBM]
**[http://www.ibm.com/contact/us/ IBM contact page]
*** Requested by asking IBM employee Michael Kaply via IRC 2007-07-31 08:57am PDT: "how about getting hCard and 'Add to address book' links on the IBM contact page?"
*[http://www.mozilla.com/ Mozilla]
**[http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/about/legal.html Mozilla legal notices]
*Opera
**People, e.g. [http://people.opera.com/howcome/ Håkon Wium Lie]; could also be hResume
*W3C
**[http://www.w3.org/Consortium/contact W3C contact]
**[http://www.w3.org/People/all W3C Staff listing] and individual pages, e.g. [http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/ Tim Berners-Lee]
***Requested by e-mail. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

== Individual hCards ==
Getting these sites to at least add hCard to their home page or contact info page and then [http://pingerati.net/ping/ ping Pingerati] would be an excellent start with getting them some experience with microformats and thinking about adding microformats to other places in their sites that make sense:
* [http://metaweb.com/ Metaweb Technologies]
** [http://www.freebase.com/ Freebase ]

==Trade directories==
* [http://www.booktrust.org.uk/info/search_publishers.php BookTrust (UK book publishers)]
* [http://www.gepir.org/ Global Electronic Party Information Register] (GEPIR) over 1 million companies
** Requested 2007-08-31 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

==Store locators==
(see [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22store+locator%22 Google search for "store locator"]; "about 2,000,000" results!)
* [http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ArgosGSGiftModeExitCmd?action=ArgosStoreLocatorMain?langId=-1&storeId=10001 Argos (UK)]
* [http://www.multimap.com/clients/places.cgi?client=asda_sf Asda (UK; part of WalMart)]
* [http://www.boots.com/storelocator/store_search.jsp Boots (UK)]
* [http://www.mcdonalds.co.uk/asp/locator/index.asp McDonalds (UK)]
* [http://www.tesco.com/storelocator/ Tesco (UK)]

==Other hCard==
* [http://www.imdb.com/ Internet Movie Database] (IMDb) for people (real, not characters), e.g. [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000007/ Humphrey Bogart]. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 02:49, 13 Nov 2006 (PST)
**Can't find contact info! [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
**See also example, below.
*Wikitravel
**e.g. [http://wikitravel.org/en/Birmingham_%28England%29 Wikitravel - Birmingham]
***[http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:MarkJaroski&curid=2699&diff=0&oldid=10663&rcid=19955 Wikitravel is about to hugely roll out hCard] Mark Jaroski
***See also [http://wikitravel.org/en/Wikitravel:Microformats Wikitravel:Microformats]
*[http://orlabs.oclc.org/Identities/ WorldCat Identities]
**The recently prototyped WorldCat Identities provides pages for 20 million 'identities', mainly authors and people who are the subjects of published titles.
**Requested by feedback form, 2007-03-09 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
** No reply, as of 02:02, 13 Jun 2007 (PDT)
*[http://geonames.org GeoNames]
**Requested by e-mail, 2007-06-07 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
**Reply confirms that they will deploy hCard and Geo
**Geo noted in use, 06:08, 30 Jul 2007 (PDT)
*[http://www.oup.com/oxforddnb/info/ Oxford Dictionary of National Biography] (ODNB); subscription based, but [http://www.oxforddnb.com/public/lotw/ some ODNB articles available free]. All 56,000+ entries have Date of Death.
*[http://www.findagrave.com/ Find-a-Grave] e.g. [http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=680 Karl Marx]. Most entries have Date of Death.
*[http://www.biography.com/ Biography.com] e.g. [http://www.biography.com/impressionists/monet-bio.jsp Camille Monet] Most posthumous entries have Date of Death.
*[http://www.cwgc.org/ Commonwealth War Graves Commission] (1.75 million people's details)
**E-mail sent 2007-08-24. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
*Civil Aviation Authority; UK aircraft register
** e.g [http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid=1&mode=detailnosummary&fullregmark=G-MOUR G-MOUR]
*[http://chicago.everyblock.com/ Chicago Everyblock]

== Successes ==
Perhaps we can consider moving successes to a separate page, like [[hcard-advocacy-successes]]. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
*Details of hCard should be added to the [http://www.imc.org/pdi/ Internet Mail Consortium's vCard page]
**Requested by e-mail, 2006-11-24 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
**'''Success''' achieved 2006-11-25. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
*W3C
**'''W3C webmaster''' [http://www.w3.org/People/Jean-Gui/ Jean-Guilhem Rouel] now has an hCard. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 15:41, 4 Apr 2007 (PDT)
* [http://jpgmag.com/ JPG magazine] - have sent email to their web developer with sample marked up member profile with [[hcard|hCard]] and [[xfn]] [[rel-me|rel="me"]]. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 23:48, 21 Feb 2007 (PST)
** [[hcard|hCard]]+[[xfn]] [[rel-me|rel="me"]] support as of March 2007.
* Twitter.com - working on it [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST).
** Completed [[hcard|hCard]]+[[xfn]]+[[hatom|hAtom]] support last week with help from Chris Messina. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 12:01, 16 May 2007 (PDT)
* Consumating.com - working on it [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST)
** [[hcard|hCard]] profiles, [[hcalendar|hCalendar]] events as of March 2007.
* [http://sunlightlabs.com/api/ SunlightLabs API] provides profiles for US Congresspeople. Their [http://sunlightlabs.com/api/masterref/megatable.php megatable] could easily be marked up with hCard, and their APIs could return hCards and hCard fields.
** [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 12:30, 20 Apr 2007 (PDT) contacted them and requested that they add hCard to megatable, consider a GethCard API method, and potentially a GethResume API method for each person.
** [[User:CarlAnderson|CarlAnderson]] 26 Apr 2007: http://sunlightlabs.com/api does now have a people.getHCard.php API method to get an hCard for every member of congress. See the documentation at http://sunlightlabs.com/api/people.getHCard.php. An example call: http://api.sunlightlabs.com/people.getHCard.php?id=fakeopenID1
** [[User:CarlAnderson|CarlAnderson]] 30 Apr 2007: I created a page of hCards for every member of congress: http://sunlightlabs.com/api/hcards/index.php
* [http://pownce.com Pownce] - I'm talking with them, and have requested the following (and a bit more) as of 2007-07-29 - [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
** needs to add class="photo" to image icon
*** 2007-09-02 success!
** needs to add class="note" to description
*** 2007-09-02 success!
** needs to add hCard+XFN to friends lists.
*** 2007-09-02 partial success, friends lists have hCard, have asked Daniel Burka to add rel="acquaintance" per [[xfn-clarifications#are_you_my_friend_yes_or_no|XFN clarifications for yes/no friend relationships]]. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 10:41, 3 Sep 2007 (PDT)
**** 2008-01 success!
** 2007-09-02 note also XFN rel="me" success: http://pownce.com/t/notes/644806/

===Wikpedia hCard===
*Infobox Templates for people mostly now have [[hcard|hCard]] in their generated markup
** [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Person Infobox_Person]; e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._O._Wilson E. O. Wilson]
** [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_actor Infobox_actor]; e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphrey_Bogart Humphrey Bogart]
*Addressable buildings e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Old_Crown%2C_Birmingham The Old Crown, Birmingham]
*Tourist attractions, e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadbury_World%2C_Birmingham Cadbury World]
*Companies, e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesco Tesco] (note headquarters address in infobox)
*Railway Stations, e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_Barr_railway_station Perry Barr]
*etc.
*See also [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Microformats WikiProject Microformats] [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 13:10, 28 Jan 2007 (PST)
* See also [[persondata|discussion of Wikipedia's Persondata]], which aligns very closely with hCard, but has additional date and place of birth & death fields. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 13:23, 28 Mar 2007 (PDT)

Some microformat data is now (2007-09-14) being removed from Wikipedia; see, for example [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Gaudi_Buildings&diff=prev&oldid=157704557 List_of_Gaudi_Buildings]

==See also==
*[[advocacy]] (in particular see [[advocacy#Geo|Geo advocacy]] - for the Geo microformat, including cases where it may be used inside hCard)
*[[advocacy-email-samples]]
{{hcard-related-pages}}

hcard-advocacy

2008-02-03T06:52:11Z

JosephSmarr: /* User Profiles */

<h1>hCard advocacy</h1>
{{TOC-right}}
Adding [[hcard|hCard]] to these sites would make them quite handy for their users and for being indexed.

== Online Profiles ==
=== Sites to check ===
The following sites may have hCard or XFN support and need to be checked and placed into lists on [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles]] and [[hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists]] as well.
* http://amazon.com
* http://aol.com
* http://bebo.com
* http://bloglines.com
* http://blogspot.com
* http://del.icio.us
* http://dopplr.com
* http://facebook.com
* http://hi5.com
* http://ilike.com
* http://imageshack.us
* http://jaiku.com
* http://meetup.com
* http://mugshot.org
* http://multiply.com
* http://myspace.com
* http://network.nature.com
* http://picasaweb.google.com
* http://pictures.aol.com
* http://reader.google.com
* http://reddit.com
* http://smugmug.com
* http://socializr.com
* http://spaces.live.com
* http://stumbleupon.com
* http://travelpod.com
* http://tribe.net
* http://tumblr.com
* http://webshots.com
* http://xanga.com
* http://yelp.com
* http://youtube.com
* http://ziki.com
* http://zooomr.com

=== User Profiles ===
Nearly every website that has a login has a page representing the public profile of the user that other users can see and interact with. Many such sites already [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles|support hCard]] (e.g. ClaimID.com, Flickr.com, Technorati.com). Here are some that I think would benefit from the addition of hCard to their profile / user pages, making them [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles]].

Feel free to add more such sites that have a social network profile-like component and we'll see what we can do. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST)
* Wikimedia - including this site, Wikipedia (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Microformats WikiProject Microformats]), Wikitravel, etc.
**It would be nice if <nowiki>[[User:YOURNAME]]</nowiki> links generated proper (mini)hCards. ([http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=12177&oldid=12173#Lazyweb per SteveIvy]; moved from 'to-do')
* http://360.yahoo.com
* http://alexa.com has online profiles for domains with contact information. Would be great if they could add hCard to those. 2007-04-18 [[User:Tantek]] requested of [[User:BenWest]] e.g.:
** http://www.alexa.com/data/details?url=alexa.com/
** http://www.alexa.com/data/details?url=w3.org/
* [http://dodgeball.com/ Dodgeball] profiles and venues need [[hcard|hCard]] for people and organizations
** [http://www.dodgeball.com/user?uid=30209 a profile]
** [http://www.dodgeball.com/venue?vid=23551 a venue] - could also use [[hreview|hReview]] for the user reviews listed there for the venue
* [http://www.icq.com/people ICQ people], where they show people's profiles and have a few ways of contacting and/or connection to people.
* http://youtube.com The very popular YouTube have profiles that do include some information that might use [[hcard|hCard]].
* [http://www.facebook.com Facebook] is a very popular (over 13 million members) community.
**Requested support of microformats in [http://flickr.com/photos/56624456@N00/1399881855/ openly asked question to Mark Zuckerberg (founder of Facebook) during Q&A at TechCrunch40 conference], and got [http://therealmccrea.wordpress.com/2007/09/18/facebook-to-support-open-standards/ lukewarm reply]. Glimmer of hope: "When it's important to our users, we'll do it." Thus if you are a Facebook user, please make a request to them to support microformats and tell them it is important to you. Feel free to add your name below. 2007-09-17 [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
*** Additional notes of Mark's response to Q above: "fits into context of push to open up in more ways, but keep in mind we're a really small company, under 300, so with respect to open standards, it's a matter of priorities. When it's important to our users we'll do it." Notes taken by John McCrea of Plaxo at TechCrunch40 conference.
**Requested in message to developer, 2007-09-28 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://anobii.com Anobii] - I asked them if they could implement hCard-supporting profiles and XFN on 2007-10-05 - [[User:JulianStahnke|Julian Stahnke]]
** Response: We will definitely spend some time to consider the suggestion.
** Got another mail from one of their developers, they’re looking into it.
* http://360.yahoo.com
* http://amazon.com
* http://aol.com
* http://bloglines.com
* http://del.icio.us
* http://picasaweb.google.com
* http://pictures.aol.com
* http://socializr.com
* http://yelp.com
* http://youtube.com
* http://zooomr.com

==== appear to be offline ====
* [http://idubyou.com/ i dub you] - appears to be 404 as of 2008-02-02 [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 20:28, 2 Feb 2008 (PST)

=== hCard XFN friends lists ===
In addition, if sites with people profiles have friends lists, we should encourage them to add support for [[hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists]]. Both of these help [[social-network-portability]] and help the site become a node on the [[open-social-web]].
* http://360.yahoo.com
* [http://dodgeball.com/ Dodgeball]

=== Company Profiles ===
* [http://getsatisfaction.com/ Satisfaction Unlimited], has company profiles, e.g. http://getsatisfaction.com/satisfaction/ that could be marked up with hCards.
** Contacted Ted Grubb at the company and requested hCards for company and its employees for all their company profiles. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 11:24, 2 Sep 2007 (PDT)

== Online Venues ==
There are many sites that offer pages that represent organizations and venues that could benefit from being marked up with hCard. [http://local.yahoo.com/ Yahoo Local] venues are marked up with hCards for example. Here are some more sites that have venues that would benefit from hCard markup.
* Yelp.com
* http://opentable.com - a site for making restaurant reservations
** [[hcard|hCard]] for restaurants
** [[hcalendar|hCalendar]] for free busy times at restaurants
** [[hcalendar|hCalendar]] for your reservations
** Tantek has emailed a friend who is a former employee of OpenTable with the above three requests, in the hopes she can pass on the message. In addition, Ryan King may know someone in marketing there. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 16:57, 30 Sep 2007 (PDT)

== Plugins for and modifications of web-applications ==
Many web-applications use plugin-systems to change their behavior and content. Most notable is probably web-forums and blogs. Many of these have a community of coders that develop plugins or code to modify the default behavior of these web-applications. Here are some sites where it might be interesting to develop hcard-related plugins/mods.

=== WYSIWYG buttons ===
In addition to getting them to markup obvious references to users/usernames with hCard, it would be great to see them update their WYSIWYG authoring interfaces (little creator/style buttons that often line up just above the top of a blog post editing textarea for creating links, lists etc.) to add a "person" button (perhaps with an icon http://microformats.org/wiki/skins/monobook/user.gif) which simply inserts [[hCard]] markup for you, or better yet, lets you pick someone from your address book, and then inserts an inline hCard with their name, URL (and perhaps even your [[XFN]] relationship to them) for you. While they're at it, perhaps a similar button/feature for easily inserting an [[hCalendar]] event.

=== Tools ===
* forum-software
** http://www.phpbb.com
* blog-software
** http://b2evolution.net
** WordPress
** Moveable Type
** LiveJournal

==Telephone Directory Listings==
Telephone Directory Listings could usefully apply hCard to their results pages, e.g. (please add other examples!):

* [http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/ BT]
** '''Requested''' via [http://tinyurl.com/yhtdjy BT feedback form], 2006-11-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
** BT confirm that they will consider this at their next re-build. 2006-12 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://118118.com 118118.com]
** '''Requested''' via e-mail, 2006-11-13. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://192.com/ 192.com]
** '''Requested''' via [http://www.192.com/support/feedback.cfm 192.com feedback form], 2007-03-07 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/download/features/skypefind/ SkypeFind]
** ''Requested''' via [http://support.skype.com/?_a=tickets&_m=submit Skype feedback form], 2007-03-16 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://www.whitepages.com/ White Pages (USA/ Canada)]
* [http://www.whitepages.com.au/ White Pages (Australia)]
* [http://www.switchboard.com/ Stitchboard (USA)]]
* [http://people.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! People Search (USA)]
* [http://www.whowhere.com/ Lycos People Search (USA)]
* [http://www.bsnl.co.in/map.htm BSNL (India)]
* [http://www.saynoto0870.com/ saynoto0870.com] (UK listings of geo vs. non-geo equivalents)
** '''Requested''' by feedback form, 2007-10-13. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

==Postal (ZIP) code Finders==
Postal code Finders could usefully apply hCard to their results pages. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 12:09, 13 Nov 2006 (PST)

e.g. (please add other examples!):
*[http://pol.royalmail.com/dda/txt/pf.asp Royal Mail] (UK)
**Requested via [http://tinyurl.com/ya4hzu Royal Mail feedback form], 2006-11-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
**Acknowledged 2006-11-30. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

==Government hCard==
===UK Gov. hCard===
* Parliament: [http://www.parliament.uk/directories/hciolists/alms.cfm Alphabetical List of Members of Parliament] (see also [http://www.parliament.uk/directories/directories.cfm other lists of MPs and Lords]). [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

===Europe Gov. hCard===
* e.g. [http://www.europarl.org.uk/uk_meps/westmidlands.asp UK MEPs]

=== MAPLight ===
http://maplight.org/ can use a bunch of hCard markup, e.g.
* individual politicians, like [http://www.maplight.org/map/us/legislator/408/individuals Nancy Pelosi]
* mentions of politicians on interest pages like [http://www.maplight.org/map/us/interest/L1300 Teachers unions]
* their contact info of course: http://www.maplight.org/contact
Requested by [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 12:13, 30 May 2007 (PDT) in person at the NetSquared2007 conference.

== Organization Contacts ==
Many companies and organizations have about or contact pages that could benefit from being marked up with hCard. [http://technorati.com/about/contact.html Technorati's contact page] for example is both marked up with hCard and has a convenient "Add to Address Book" hCard to vCard converter link. The following company sites could benefit from similar markup (and, until user agents support hCards natively, "Add to Address Book" links). [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST)
*Adobe
**[http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/offices.html Adobe offices]
***Requested using contact form, 2006-12-14. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
*claimID
**[http://claimid.com/people claimID people]
***requested via instant message with Terrell Russell (co-founder) 2007-11-20. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
*Google
**Contacts, e.g.
*** [http://www.google.com/intl/en/contact/index.html Google.com contact page]
**** Requested by asking Google Employee KevinMarks via instant messaging to add hCard to that page along with a "Add to Address Book" link [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 11:32, 10 Apr 2007 (PDT) and RyanKing in IRC
*** [http://www.google.co.uk/intl/en/contact/index.html Google UK], etc.
*[http://ibm.com/ IBM]
**[http://www.ibm.com/contact/us/ IBM contact page]
*** Requested by asking IBM employee Michael Kaply via IRC 2007-07-31 08:57am PDT: "how about getting hCard and 'Add to address book' links on the IBM contact page?"
*[http://www.mozilla.com/ Mozilla]
**[http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/about/legal.html Mozilla legal notices]
*Opera
**People, e.g. [http://people.opera.com/howcome/ Håkon Wium Lie]; could also be hResume
*W3C
**[http://www.w3.org/Consortium/contact W3C contact]
**[http://www.w3.org/People/all W3C Staff listing] and individual pages, e.g. [http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/ Tim Berners-Lee]
***Requested by e-mail. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

== Individual hCards ==
Getting these sites to at least add hCard to their home page or contact info page and then [http://pingerati.net/ping/ ping Pingerati] would be an excellent start with getting them some experience with microformats and thinking about adding microformats to other places in their sites that make sense:
* [http://metaweb.com/ Metaweb Technologies]
** [http://www.freebase.com/ Freebase ]

==Trade directories==
* [http://www.booktrust.org.uk/info/search_publishers.php BookTrust (UK book publishers)]
* [http://www.gepir.org/ Global Electronic Party Information Register] (GEPIR) over 1 million companies
** Requested 2007-08-31 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

==Store locators==
(see [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22store+locator%22 Google search for "store locator"]; "about 2,000,000" results!)
* [http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ArgosGSGiftModeExitCmd?action=ArgosStoreLocatorMain?langId=-1&storeId=10001 Argos (UK)]
* [http://www.multimap.com/clients/places.cgi?client=asda_sf Asda (UK; part of WalMart)]
* [http://www.boots.com/storelocator/store_search.jsp Boots (UK)]
* [http://www.mcdonalds.co.uk/asp/locator/index.asp McDonalds (UK)]
* [http://www.tesco.com/storelocator/ Tesco (UK)]

==Other hCard==
* [http://www.imdb.com/ Internet Movie Database] (IMDb) for people (real, not characters), e.g. [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000007/ Humphrey Bogart]. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 02:49, 13 Nov 2006 (PST)
**Can't find contact info! [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
**See also example, below.
*Wikitravel
**e.g. [http://wikitravel.org/en/Birmingham_%28England%29 Wikitravel - Birmingham]
***[http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:MarkJaroski&curid=2699&diff=0&oldid=10663&rcid=19955 Wikitravel is about to hugely roll out hCard] Mark Jaroski
***See also [http://wikitravel.org/en/Wikitravel:Microformats Wikitravel:Microformats]
*[http://orlabs.oclc.org/Identities/ WorldCat Identities]
**The recently prototyped WorldCat Identities provides pages for 20 million 'identities', mainly authors and people who are the subjects of published titles.
**Requested by feedback form, 2007-03-09 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
** No reply, as of 02:02, 13 Jun 2007 (PDT)
*[http://geonames.org GeoNames]
**Requested by e-mail, 2007-06-07 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
**Reply confirms that they will deploy hCard and Geo
**Geo noted in use, 06:08, 30 Jul 2007 (PDT)
*[http://www.oup.com/oxforddnb/info/ Oxford Dictionary of National Biography] (ODNB); subscription based, but [http://www.oxforddnb.com/public/lotw/ some ODNB articles available free]. All 56,000+ entries have Date of Death.
*[http://www.findagrave.com/ Find-a-Grave] e.g. [http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=680 Karl Marx]. Most entries have Date of Death.
*[http://www.biography.com/ Biography.com] e.g. [http://www.biography.com/impressionists/monet-bio.jsp Camille Monet] Most posthumous entries have Date of Death.
*[http://www.cwgc.org/ Commonwealth War Graves Commission] (1.75 million people's details)
**E-mail sent 2007-08-24. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
*Civil Aviation Authority; UK aircraft register
** e.g [http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid=1&mode=detailnosummary&fullregmark=G-MOUR G-MOUR]
*[http://chicago.everyblock.com/ Chicago Everyblock]

== Successes ==
Perhaps we can consider moving successes to a separate page, like [[hcard-advocacy-successes]]. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
*Details of hCard should be added to the [http://www.imc.org/pdi/ Internet Mail Consortium's vCard page]
**Requested by e-mail, 2006-11-24 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
**'''Success''' achieved 2006-11-25. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
*W3C
**'''W3C webmaster''' [http://www.w3.org/People/Jean-Gui/ Jean-Guilhem Rouel] now has an hCard. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 15:41, 4 Apr 2007 (PDT)
* [http://jpgmag.com/ JPG magazine] - have sent email to their web developer with sample marked up member profile with [[hcard|hCard]] and [[xfn]] [[rel-me|rel="me"]]. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 23:48, 21 Feb 2007 (PST)
** [[hcard|hCard]]+[[xfn]] [[rel-me|rel="me"]] support as of March 2007.
* Twitter.com - working on it [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST).
** Completed [[hcard|hCard]]+[[xfn]]+[[hatom|hAtom]] support last week with help from Chris Messina. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 12:01, 16 May 2007 (PDT)
* Consumating.com - working on it [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST)
** [[hcard|hCard]] profiles, [[hcalendar|hCalendar]] events as of March 2007.
* [http://sunlightlabs.com/api/ SunlightLabs API] provides profiles for US Congresspeople. Their [http://sunlightlabs.com/api/masterref/megatable.php megatable] could easily be marked up with hCard, and their APIs could return hCards and hCard fields.
** [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 12:30, 20 Apr 2007 (PDT) contacted them and requested that they add hCard to megatable, consider a GethCard API method, and potentially a GethResume API method for each person.
** [[User:CarlAnderson|CarlAnderson]] 26 Apr 2007: http://sunlightlabs.com/api does now have a people.getHCard.php API method to get an hCard for every member of congress. See the documentation at http://sunlightlabs.com/api/people.getHCard.php. An example call: http://api.sunlightlabs.com/people.getHCard.php?id=fakeopenID1
** [[User:CarlAnderson|CarlAnderson]] 30 Apr 2007: I created a page of hCards for every member of congress: http://sunlightlabs.com/api/hcards/index.php
* [http://pownce.com Pownce] - I'm talking with them, and have requested the following (and a bit more) as of 2007-07-29 - [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
** needs to add class="photo" to image icon
*** 2007-09-02 success!
** needs to add class="note" to description
*** 2007-09-02 success!
** needs to add hCard+XFN to friends lists.
*** 2007-09-02 partial success, friends lists have hCard, have asked Daniel Burka to add rel="acquaintance" per [[xfn-clarifications#are_you_my_friend_yes_or_no|XFN clarifications for yes/no friend relationships]]. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 10:41, 3 Sep 2007 (PDT)
**** 2008-01 success!
** 2007-09-02 note also XFN rel="me" success: http://pownce.com/t/notes/644806/

===Wikpedia hCard===
*Infobox Templates for people mostly now have [[hcard|hCard]] in their generated markup
** [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Person Infobox_Person]; e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._O._Wilson E. O. Wilson]
** [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_actor Infobox_actor]; e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphrey_Bogart Humphrey Bogart]
*Addressable buildings e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Old_Crown%2C_Birmingham The Old Crown, Birmingham]
*Tourist attractions, e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadbury_World%2C_Birmingham Cadbury World]
*Companies, e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesco Tesco] (note headquarters address in infobox)
*Railway Stations, e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_Barr_railway_station Perry Barr]
*etc.
*See also [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Microformats WikiProject Microformats] [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 13:10, 28 Jan 2007 (PST)
* See also [[persondata|discussion of Wikipedia's Persondata]], which aligns very closely with hCard, but has additional date and place of birth & death fields. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 13:23, 28 Mar 2007 (PDT)

Some microformat data is now (2007-09-14) being removed from Wikipedia; see, for example [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Gaudi_Buildings&diff=prev&oldid=157704557 List_of_Gaudi_Buildings]

==See also==
*[[advocacy]] (in particular see [[advocacy#Geo|Geo advocacy]] - for the Geo microformat, including cases where it may be used inside hCard)
*[[advocacy-email-samples]]
{{hcard-related-pages}}

hcard-advocacy

2008-02-03T06:48:43Z

JosephSmarr: /* User Profiles */

<h1>hCard advocacy</h1>
{{TOC-right}}
Adding [[hcard|hCard]] to these sites would make them quite handy for their users and for being indexed.

== Online Profiles ==
=== Sites to check ===
The following sites may have hCard or XFN support and need to be checked and placed into lists on [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles]] and [[hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists]] as well.
* http://amazon.com
* http://aol.com
* http://bebo.com
* http://bloglines.com
* http://blogspot.com
* http://del.icio.us
* http://dopplr.com
* http://facebook.com
* http://hi5.com
* http://ilike.com
* http://imageshack.us
* http://jaiku.com
* http://meetup.com
* http://mugshot.org
* http://multiply.com
* http://myspace.com
* http://network.nature.com
* http://picasaweb.google.com
* http://pictures.aol.com
* http://reader.google.com
* http://reddit.com
* http://smugmug.com
* http://socializr.com
* http://spaces.live.com
* http://stumbleupon.com
* http://travelpod.com
* http://tribe.net
* http://tumblr.com
* http://webshots.com
* http://xanga.com
* http://yelp.com
* http://youtube.com
* http://ziki.com
* http://zooomr.com

=== User Profiles ===
Nearly every website that has a login has a page representing the public profile of the user that other users can see and interact with. Many such sites already [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles|support hCard]] (e.g. ClaimID.com, Flickr.com, Technorati.com). Here are some that I think would benefit from the addition of hCard to their profile / user pages, making them [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles]].

Feel free to add more such sites that have a social network profile-like component and we'll see what we can do. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST)
* Wikimedia - including this site, Wikipedia (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Microformats WikiProject Microformats]), Wikitravel, etc.
**It would be nice if <nowiki>[[User:YOURNAME]]</nowiki> links generated proper (mini)hCards. ([http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=12177&oldid=12173#Lazyweb per SteveIvy]; moved from 'to-do')
* http://360.yahoo.com
* http://alexa.com has online profiles for domains with contact information. Would be great if they could add hCard to those. 2007-04-18 [[User:Tantek]] requested of [[User:BenWest]] e.g.:
** http://www.alexa.com/data/details?url=alexa.com/
** http://www.alexa.com/data/details?url=w3.org/
* [http://dodgeball.com/ Dodgeball] profiles and venues need [[hcard|hCard]] for people and organizations
** [http://www.dodgeball.com/user?uid=30209 a profile]
** [http://www.dodgeball.com/venue?vid=23551 a venue] - could also use [[hreview|hReview]] for the user reviews listed there for the venue
* [http://www.icq.com/people ICQ people], where they show people's profiles and have a few ways of contacting and/or connection to people.
* http://youtube.com The very popular YouTube have profiles that do include some information that might use [[hcard|hCard]].
* [http://www.facebook.com Facebook] is a very popular (over 13 million members) community.
**Requested support of microformats in [http://flickr.com/photos/56624456@N00/1399881855/ openly asked question to Mark Zuckerberg (founder of Facebook) during Q&A at TechCrunch40 conference], and got [http://therealmccrea.wordpress.com/2007/09/18/facebook-to-support-open-standards/ lukewarm reply]. Glimmer of hope: "When it's important to our users, we'll do it." Thus if you are a Facebook user, please make a request to them to support microformats and tell them it is important to you. Feel free to add your name below. 2007-09-17 [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
*** Additional notes of Mark's response to Q above: "fits into context of push to open up in more ways, but keep in mind we're a really small company, under 300, so with respect to open standards, it's a matter of priorities. When it's important to our users we'll do it." Notes taken by John McCrea of Plaxo at TechCrunch40 conference.
**Requested in message to developer, 2007-09-28 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://anobii.com Anobii] - I asked them if they could implement hCard-supporting profiles and XFN on 2007-10-05 - [[User:JulianStahnke|Julian Stahnke]]
** Response: We will definitely spend some time to consider the suggestion.
** Got another mail from one of their developers, they’re looking into it.
* http://360.yahoo.com
* http://amazon.com
* http://aol.com
* http://bloglines.com
* http://del.icio.us
* http://picasaweb.google.com
* http://pictures.aol.com
* http://socializr.com
* http://yelp.com
* http://youtube.com

==== appear to be offline ====
* [http://idubyou.com/ i dub you] - appears to be 404 as of 2008-02-02 [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 20:28, 2 Feb 2008 (PST)

=== hCard XFN friends lists ===
In addition, if sites with people profiles have friends lists, we should encourage them to add support for [[hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists]]. Both of these help [[social-network-portability]] and help the site become a node on the [[open-social-web]].
* http://360.yahoo.com
* [http://dodgeball.com/ Dodgeball]

=== Company Profiles ===
* [http://getsatisfaction.com/ Satisfaction Unlimited], has company profiles, e.g. http://getsatisfaction.com/satisfaction/ that could be marked up with hCards.
** Contacted Ted Grubb at the company and requested hCards for company and its employees for all their company profiles. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 11:24, 2 Sep 2007 (PDT)

== Online Venues ==
There are many sites that offer pages that represent organizations and venues that could benefit from being marked up with hCard. [http://local.yahoo.com/ Yahoo Local] venues are marked up with hCards for example. Here are some more sites that have venues that would benefit from hCard markup.
* Yelp.com
* http://opentable.com - a site for making restaurant reservations
** [[hcard|hCard]] for restaurants
** [[hcalendar|hCalendar]] for free busy times at restaurants
** [[hcalendar|hCalendar]] for your reservations
** Tantek has emailed a friend who is a former employee of OpenTable with the above three requests, in the hopes she can pass on the message. In addition, Ryan King may know someone in marketing there. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 16:57, 30 Sep 2007 (PDT)

== Plugins for and modifications of web-applications ==
Many web-applications use plugin-systems to change their behavior and content. Most notable is probably web-forums and blogs. Many of these have a community of coders that develop plugins or code to modify the default behavior of these web-applications. Here are some sites where it might be interesting to develop hcard-related plugins/mods.

=== WYSIWYG buttons ===
In addition to getting them to markup obvious references to users/usernames with hCard, it would be great to see them update their WYSIWYG authoring interfaces (little creator/style buttons that often line up just above the top of a blog post editing textarea for creating links, lists etc.) to add a "person" button (perhaps with an icon http://microformats.org/wiki/skins/monobook/user.gif) which simply inserts [[hCard]] markup for you, or better yet, lets you pick someone from your address book, and then inserts an inline hCard with their name, URL (and perhaps even your [[XFN]] relationship to them) for you. While they're at it, perhaps a similar button/feature for easily inserting an [[hCalendar]] event.

=== Tools ===
* forum-software
** http://www.phpbb.com
* blog-software
** http://b2evolution.net
** WordPress
** Moveable Type
** LiveJournal

==Telephone Directory Listings==
Telephone Directory Listings could usefully apply hCard to their results pages, e.g. (please add other examples!):

* [http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/ BT]
** '''Requested''' via [http://tinyurl.com/yhtdjy BT feedback form], 2006-11-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
** BT confirm that they will consider this at their next re-build. 2006-12 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://118118.com 118118.com]
** '''Requested''' via e-mail, 2006-11-13. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://192.com/ 192.com]
** '''Requested''' via [http://www.192.com/support/feedback.cfm 192.com feedback form], 2007-03-07 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/download/features/skypefind/ SkypeFind]
** ''Requested''' via [http://support.skype.com/?_a=tickets&_m=submit Skype feedback form], 2007-03-16 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://www.whitepages.com/ White Pages (USA/ Canada)]
* [http://www.whitepages.com.au/ White Pages (Australia)]
* [http://www.switchboard.com/ Stitchboard (USA)]]
* [http://people.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! People Search (USA)]
* [http://www.whowhere.com/ Lycos People Search (USA)]
* [http://www.bsnl.co.in/map.htm BSNL (India)]
* [http://www.saynoto0870.com/ saynoto0870.com] (UK listings of geo vs. non-geo equivalents)
** '''Requested''' by feedback form, 2007-10-13. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

==Postal (ZIP) code Finders==
Postal code Finders could usefully apply hCard to their results pages. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 12:09, 13 Nov 2006 (PST)

e.g. (please add other examples!):
*[http://pol.royalmail.com/dda/txt/pf.asp Royal Mail] (UK)
**Requested via [http://tinyurl.com/ya4hzu Royal Mail feedback form], 2006-11-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
**Acknowledged 2006-11-30. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

==Government hCard==
===UK Gov. hCard===
* Parliament: [http://www.parliament.uk/directories/hciolists/alms.cfm Alphabetical List of Members of Parliament] (see also [http://www.parliament.uk/directories/directories.cfm other lists of MPs and Lords]). [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

===Europe Gov. hCard===
* e.g. [http://www.europarl.org.uk/uk_meps/westmidlands.asp UK MEPs]

=== MAPLight ===
http://maplight.org/ can use a bunch of hCard markup, e.g.
* individual politicians, like [http://www.maplight.org/map/us/legislator/408/individuals Nancy Pelosi]
* mentions of politicians on interest pages like [http://www.maplight.org/map/us/interest/L1300 Teachers unions]
* their contact info of course: http://www.maplight.org/contact
Requested by [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 12:13, 30 May 2007 (PDT) in person at the NetSquared2007 conference.

== Organization Contacts ==
Many companies and organizations have about or contact pages that could benefit from being marked up with hCard. [http://technorati.com/about/contact.html Technorati's contact page] for example is both marked up with hCard and has a convenient "Add to Address Book" hCard to vCard converter link. The following company sites could benefit from similar markup (and, until user agents support hCards natively, "Add to Address Book" links). [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST)
*Adobe
**[http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/offices.html Adobe offices]
***Requested using contact form, 2006-12-14. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
*claimID
**[http://claimid.com/people claimID people]
***requested via instant message with Terrell Russell (co-founder) 2007-11-20. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
*Google
**Contacts, e.g.
*** [http://www.google.com/intl/en/contact/index.html Google.com contact page]
**** Requested by asking Google Employee KevinMarks via instant messaging to add hCard to that page along with a "Add to Address Book" link [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 11:32, 10 Apr 2007 (PDT) and RyanKing in IRC
*** [http://www.google.co.uk/intl/en/contact/index.html Google UK], etc.
*[http://ibm.com/ IBM]
**[http://www.ibm.com/contact/us/ IBM contact page]
*** Requested by asking IBM employee Michael Kaply via IRC 2007-07-31 08:57am PDT: "how about getting hCard and 'Add to address book' links on the IBM contact page?"
*[http://www.mozilla.com/ Mozilla]
**[http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/about/legal.html Mozilla legal notices]
*Opera
**People, e.g. [http://people.opera.com/howcome/ Håkon Wium Lie]; could also be hResume
*W3C
**[http://www.w3.org/Consortium/contact W3C contact]
**[http://www.w3.org/People/all W3C Staff listing] and individual pages, e.g. [http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/ Tim Berners-Lee]
***Requested by e-mail. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

== Individual hCards ==
Getting these sites to at least add hCard to their home page or contact info page and then [http://pingerati.net/ping/ ping Pingerati] would be an excellent start with getting them some experience with microformats and thinking about adding microformats to other places in their sites that make sense:
* [http://metaweb.com/ Metaweb Technologies]
** [http://www.freebase.com/ Freebase ]

==Trade directories==
* [http://www.booktrust.org.uk/info/search_publishers.php BookTrust (UK book publishers)]
* [http://www.gepir.org/ Global Electronic Party Information Register] (GEPIR) over 1 million companies
** Requested 2007-08-31 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

==Store locators==
(see [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22store+locator%22 Google search for "store locator"]; "about 2,000,000" results!)
* [http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ArgosGSGiftModeExitCmd?action=ArgosStoreLocatorMain?langId=-1&storeId=10001 Argos (UK)]
* [http://www.multimap.com/clients/places.cgi?client=asda_sf Asda (UK; part of WalMart)]
* [http://www.boots.com/storelocator/store_search.jsp Boots (UK)]
* [http://www.mcdonalds.co.uk/asp/locator/index.asp McDonalds (UK)]
* [http://www.tesco.com/storelocator/ Tesco (UK)]

==Other hCard==
* [http://www.imdb.com/ Internet Movie Database] (IMDb) for people (real, not characters), e.g. [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000007/ Humphrey Bogart]. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 02:49, 13 Nov 2006 (PST)
**Can't find contact info! [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
**See also example, below.
*Wikitravel
**e.g. [http://wikitravel.org/en/Birmingham_%28England%29 Wikitravel - Birmingham]
***[http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:MarkJaroski&curid=2699&diff=0&oldid=10663&rcid=19955 Wikitravel is about to hugely roll out hCard] Mark Jaroski
***See also [http://wikitravel.org/en/Wikitravel:Microformats Wikitravel:Microformats]
*[http://orlabs.oclc.org/Identities/ WorldCat Identities]
**The recently prototyped WorldCat Identities provides pages for 20 million 'identities', mainly authors and people who are the subjects of published titles.
**Requested by feedback form, 2007-03-09 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
** No reply, as of 02:02, 13 Jun 2007 (PDT)
*[http://geonames.org GeoNames]
**Requested by e-mail, 2007-06-07 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
**Reply confirms that they will deploy hCard and Geo
**Geo noted in use, 06:08, 30 Jul 2007 (PDT)
*[http://www.oup.com/oxforddnb/info/ Oxford Dictionary of National Biography] (ODNB); subscription based, but [http://www.oxforddnb.com/public/lotw/ some ODNB articles available free]. All 56,000+ entries have Date of Death.
*[http://www.findagrave.com/ Find-a-Grave] e.g. [http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=680 Karl Marx]. Most entries have Date of Death.
*[http://www.biography.com/ Biography.com] e.g. [http://www.biography.com/impressionists/monet-bio.jsp Camille Monet] Most posthumous entries have Date of Death.
*[http://www.cwgc.org/ Commonwealth War Graves Commission] (1.75 million people's details)
**E-mail sent 2007-08-24. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
*Civil Aviation Authority; UK aircraft register
** e.g [http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid=1&mode=detailnosummary&fullregmark=G-MOUR G-MOUR]
*[http://chicago.everyblock.com/ Chicago Everyblock]

== Successes ==
Perhaps we can consider moving successes to a separate page, like [[hcard-advocacy-successes]]. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
*Details of hCard should be added to the [http://www.imc.org/pdi/ Internet Mail Consortium's vCard page]
**Requested by e-mail, 2006-11-24 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
**'''Success''' achieved 2006-11-25. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
*W3C
**'''W3C webmaster''' [http://www.w3.org/People/Jean-Gui/ Jean-Guilhem Rouel] now has an hCard. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 15:41, 4 Apr 2007 (PDT)
* [http://jpgmag.com/ JPG magazine] - have sent email to their web developer with sample marked up member profile with [[hcard|hCard]] and [[xfn]] [[rel-me|rel="me"]]. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 23:48, 21 Feb 2007 (PST)
** [[hcard|hCard]]+[[xfn]] [[rel-me|rel="me"]] support as of March 2007.
* Twitter.com - working on it [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST).
** Completed [[hcard|hCard]]+[[xfn]]+[[hatom|hAtom]] support last week with help from Chris Messina. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 12:01, 16 May 2007 (PDT)
* Consumating.com - working on it [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST)
** [[hcard|hCard]] profiles, [[hcalendar|hCalendar]] events as of March 2007.
* [http://sunlightlabs.com/api/ SunlightLabs API] provides profiles for US Congresspeople. Their [http://sunlightlabs.com/api/masterref/megatable.php megatable] could easily be marked up with hCard, and their APIs could return hCards and hCard fields.
** [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 12:30, 20 Apr 2007 (PDT) contacted them and requested that they add hCard to megatable, consider a GethCard API method, and potentially a GethResume API method for each person.
** [[User:CarlAnderson|CarlAnderson]] 26 Apr 2007: http://sunlightlabs.com/api does now have a people.getHCard.php API method to get an hCard for every member of congress. See the documentation at http://sunlightlabs.com/api/people.getHCard.php. An example call: http://api.sunlightlabs.com/people.getHCard.php?id=fakeopenID1
** [[User:CarlAnderson|CarlAnderson]] 30 Apr 2007: I created a page of hCards for every member of congress: http://sunlightlabs.com/api/hcards/index.php
* [http://pownce.com Pownce] - I'm talking with them, and have requested the following (and a bit more) as of 2007-07-29 - [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
** needs to add class="photo" to image icon
*** 2007-09-02 success!
** needs to add class="note" to description
*** 2007-09-02 success!
** needs to add hCard+XFN to friends lists.
*** 2007-09-02 partial success, friends lists have hCard, have asked Daniel Burka to add rel="acquaintance" per [[xfn-clarifications#are_you_my_friend_yes_or_no|XFN clarifications for yes/no friend relationships]]. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 10:41, 3 Sep 2007 (PDT)
**** 2008-01 success!
** 2007-09-02 note also XFN rel="me" success: http://pownce.com/t/notes/644806/

===Wikpedia hCard===
*Infobox Templates for people mostly now have [[hcard|hCard]] in their generated markup
** [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Person Infobox_Person]; e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._O._Wilson E. O. Wilson]
** [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_actor Infobox_actor]; e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphrey_Bogart Humphrey Bogart]
*Addressable buildings e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Old_Crown%2C_Birmingham The Old Crown, Birmingham]
*Tourist attractions, e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadbury_World%2C_Birmingham Cadbury World]
*Companies, e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesco Tesco] (note headquarters address in infobox)
*Railway Stations, e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_Barr_railway_station Perry Barr]
*etc.
*See also [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Microformats WikiProject Microformats] [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 13:10, 28 Jan 2007 (PST)
* See also [[persondata|discussion of Wikipedia's Persondata]], which aligns very closely with hCard, but has additional date and place of birth & death fields. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 13:23, 28 Mar 2007 (PDT)

Some microformat data is now (2007-09-14) being removed from Wikipedia; see, for example [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Gaudi_Buildings&diff=prev&oldid=157704557 List_of_Gaudi_Buildings]

==See also==
*[[advocacy]] (in particular see [[advocacy#Geo|Geo advocacy]] - for the Geo microformat, including cases where it may be used inside hCard)
*[[advocacy-email-samples]]
{{hcard-related-pages}}

hcard-advocacy

2008-02-03T06:30:40Z

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<h1>hCard advocacy</h1>
{{TOC-right}}
Adding [[hcard|hCard]] to these sites would make them quite handy for their users and for being indexed.

== Online Profiles ==
=== Sites to check ===
The following sites may have hCard or XFN support and need to be checked and placed into lists on [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles]] and [[hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists]] as well.
* http://amazon.com
* http://aol.com
* http://bebo.com
* http://bloglines.com
* http://blogspot.com
* http://del.icio.us
* http://dopplr.com
* http://facebook.com
* http://hi5.com
* http://ilike.com
* http://imageshack.us
* http://jaiku.com
* http://meetup.com
* http://mugshot.org
* http://multiply.com
* http://myspace.com
* http://picasaweb.google.com
* http://pictures.aol.com
* http://reader.google.com
* http://reddit.com
* http://smugmug.com
* http://socializr.com
* http://spaces.live.com
* http://stumbleupon.com
* http://travelpod.com
* http://tribe.net
* http://tumblr.com
* http://webshots.com
* http://xanga.com
* http://yelp.com
* http://youtube.com
* http://ziki.com
* http://zooomr.com

=== User Profiles ===
Nearly every website that has a login has a page representing the public profile of the user that other users can see and interact with. Many such sites already [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles|support hCard]] (e.g. ClaimID.com, Flickr.com, Technorati.com). Here are some that I think would benefit from the addition of hCard to their profile / user pages, making them [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles]].

Feel free to add more such sites that have a social network profile-like component and we'll see what we can do. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST)
* Wikimedia - including this site, Wikipedia (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Microformats WikiProject Microformats]), Wikitravel, etc.
**It would be nice if <nowiki>[[User:YOURNAME]]</nowiki> links generated proper (mini)hCards. ([http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=12177&oldid=12173#Lazyweb per SteveIvy]; moved from 'to-do')
* http://360.yahoo.com
* http://alexa.com has online profiles for domains with contact information. Would be great if they could add hCard to those. 2007-04-18 [[User:Tantek]] requested of [[User:BenWest]] e.g.:
** http://www.alexa.com/data/details?url=alexa.com/
** http://www.alexa.com/data/details?url=w3.org/
* [http://dodgeball.com/ Dodgeball] profiles and venues need [[hcard|hCard]] for people and organizations
** [http://www.dodgeball.com/user?uid=30209 a profile]
** [http://www.dodgeball.com/venue?vid=23551 a venue] - could also use [[hreview|hReview]] for the user reviews listed there for the venue
* [http://www.icq.com/people ICQ people], where they show people's profiles and have a few ways of contacting and/or connection to people.
* http://youtube.com The very popular YouTube have profiles that do include some information that might use [[hcard|hCard]].
* [http://www.facebook.com Facebook] is a very popular (over 13 million members) community.
**Requested support of microformats in [http://flickr.com/photos/56624456@N00/1399881855/ openly asked question to Mark Zuckerberg (founder of Facebook) during Q&A at TechCrunch40 conference], and got [http://therealmccrea.wordpress.com/2007/09/18/facebook-to-support-open-standards/ lukewarm reply]. Glimmer of hope: "When it's important to our users, we'll do it." Thus if you are a Facebook user, please make a request to them to support microformats and tell them it is important to you. Feel free to add your name below. 2007-09-17 [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
*** Additional notes of Mark's response to Q above: "fits into context of push to open up in more ways, but keep in mind we're a really small company, under 300, so with respect to open standards, it's a matter of priorities. When it's important to our users we'll do it." Notes taken by John McCrea of Plaxo at TechCrunch40 conference.
**Requested in message to developer, 2007-09-28 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://anobii.com Anobii] - I asked them if they could implement hCard-supporting profiles and XFN on 2007-10-05 - [[User:JulianStahnke|Julian Stahnke]]
** Response: We will definitely spend some time to consider the suggestion.
** Got another mail from one of their developers, they’re looking into it.
* http://360.yahoo.com
* http://amazon.com
* http://aol.com
* http://bloglines.com
* http://del.icio.us

==== appear to be offline ====
* [http://idubyou.com/ i dub you] - appears to be 404 as of 2008-02-02 [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 20:28, 2 Feb 2008 (PST)

=== hCard XFN friends lists ===
In addition, if sites with people profiles have friends lists, we should encourage them to add support for [[hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists]]. Both of these help [[social-network-portability]] and help the site become a node on the [[open-social-web]].
* http://360.yahoo.com
* [http://dodgeball.com/ Dodgeball]

=== Company Profiles ===
* [http://getsatisfaction.com/ Satisfaction Unlimited], has company profiles, e.g. http://getsatisfaction.com/satisfaction/ that could be marked up with hCards.
** Contacted Ted Grubb at the company and requested hCards for company and its employees for all their company profiles. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 11:24, 2 Sep 2007 (PDT)

== Online Venues ==
There are many sites that offer pages that represent organizations and venues that could benefit from being marked up with hCard. [http://local.yahoo.com/ Yahoo Local] venues are marked up with hCards for example. Here are some more sites that have venues that would benefit from hCard markup.
* Yelp.com
* http://opentable.com - a site for making restaurant reservations
** [[hcard|hCard]] for restaurants
** [[hcalendar|hCalendar]] for free busy times at restaurants
** [[hcalendar|hCalendar]] for your reservations
** Tantek has emailed a friend who is a former employee of OpenTable with the above three requests, in the hopes she can pass on the message. In addition, Ryan King may know someone in marketing there. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 16:57, 30 Sep 2007 (PDT)

== Plugins for and modifications of web-applications ==
Many web-applications use plugin-systems to change their behavior and content. Most notable is probably web-forums and blogs. Many of these have a community of coders that develop plugins or code to modify the default behavior of these web-applications. Here are some sites where it might be interesting to develop hcard-related plugins/mods.

=== WYSIWYG buttons ===
In addition to getting them to markup obvious references to users/usernames with hCard, it would be great to see them update their WYSIWYG authoring interfaces (little creator/style buttons that often line up just above the top of a blog post editing textarea for creating links, lists etc.) to add a "person" button (perhaps with an icon http://microformats.org/wiki/skins/monobook/user.gif) which simply inserts [[hCard]] markup for you, or better yet, lets you pick someone from your address book, and then inserts an inline hCard with their name, URL (and perhaps even your [[XFN]] relationship to them) for you. While they're at it, perhaps a similar button/feature for easily inserting an [[hCalendar]] event.

=== Tools ===
* forum-software
** http://www.phpbb.com
* blog-software
** http://b2evolution.net
** WordPress
** Moveable Type
** LiveJournal

==Telephone Directory Listings==
Telephone Directory Listings could usefully apply hCard to their results pages, e.g. (please add other examples!):

* [http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/ BT]
** '''Requested''' via [http://tinyurl.com/yhtdjy BT feedback form], 2006-11-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
** BT confirm that they will consider this at their next re-build. 2006-12 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://118118.com 118118.com]
** '''Requested''' via e-mail, 2006-11-13. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://192.com/ 192.com]
** '''Requested''' via [http://www.192.com/support/feedback.cfm 192.com feedback form], 2007-03-07 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/download/features/skypefind/ SkypeFind]
** ''Requested''' via [http://support.skype.com/?_a=tickets&_m=submit Skype feedback form], 2007-03-16 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://www.whitepages.com/ White Pages (USA/ Canada)]
* [http://www.whitepages.com.au/ White Pages (Australia)]
* [http://www.switchboard.com/ Stitchboard (USA)]]
* [http://people.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! People Search (USA)]
* [http://www.whowhere.com/ Lycos People Search (USA)]
* [http://www.bsnl.co.in/map.htm BSNL (India)]
* [http://www.saynoto0870.com/ saynoto0870.com] (UK listings of geo vs. non-geo equivalents)
** '''Requested''' by feedback form, 2007-10-13. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

==Postal (ZIP) code Finders==
Postal code Finders could usefully apply hCard to their results pages. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 12:09, 13 Nov 2006 (PST)

e.g. (please add other examples!):
*[http://pol.royalmail.com/dda/txt/pf.asp Royal Mail] (UK)
**Requested via [http://tinyurl.com/ya4hzu Royal Mail feedback form], 2006-11-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
**Acknowledged 2006-11-30. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

==Government hCard==
===UK Gov. hCard===
* Parliament: [http://www.parliament.uk/directories/hciolists/alms.cfm Alphabetical List of Members of Parliament] (see also [http://www.parliament.uk/directories/directories.cfm other lists of MPs and Lords]). [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

===Europe Gov. hCard===
* e.g. [http://www.europarl.org.uk/uk_meps/westmidlands.asp UK MEPs]

=== MAPLight ===
http://maplight.org/ can use a bunch of hCard markup, e.g.
* individual politicians, like [http://www.maplight.org/map/us/legislator/408/individuals Nancy Pelosi]
* mentions of politicians on interest pages like [http://www.maplight.org/map/us/interest/L1300 Teachers unions]
* their contact info of course: http://www.maplight.org/contact
Requested by [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 12:13, 30 May 2007 (PDT) in person at the NetSquared2007 conference.

== Organization Contacts ==
Many companies and organizations have about or contact pages that could benefit from being marked up with hCard. [http://technorati.com/about/contact.html Technorati's contact page] for example is both marked up with hCard and has a convenient "Add to Address Book" hCard to vCard converter link. The following company sites could benefit from similar markup (and, until user agents support hCards natively, "Add to Address Book" links). [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST)
*Adobe
**[http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/offices.html Adobe offices]
***Requested using contact form, 2006-12-14. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
*claimID
**[http://claimid.com/people claimID people]
***requested via instant message with Terrell Russell (co-founder) 2007-11-20. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
*Google
**Contacts, e.g.
*** [http://www.google.com/intl/en/contact/index.html Google.com contact page]
**** Requested by asking Google Employee KevinMarks via instant messaging to add hCard to that page along with a "Add to Address Book" link [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 11:32, 10 Apr 2007 (PDT) and RyanKing in IRC
*** [http://www.google.co.uk/intl/en/contact/index.html Google UK], etc.
*[http://ibm.com/ IBM]
**[http://www.ibm.com/contact/us/ IBM contact page]
*** Requested by asking IBM employee Michael Kaply via IRC 2007-07-31 08:57am PDT: "how about getting hCard and 'Add to address book' links on the IBM contact page?"
*[http://www.mozilla.com/ Mozilla]
**[http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/about/legal.html Mozilla legal notices]
*Opera
**People, e.g. [http://people.opera.com/howcome/ Håkon Wium Lie]; could also be hResume
*W3C
**[http://www.w3.org/Consortium/contact W3C contact]
**[http://www.w3.org/People/all W3C Staff listing] and individual pages, e.g. [http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/ Tim Berners-Lee]
***Requested by e-mail. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

== Individual hCards ==
Getting these sites to at least add hCard to their home page or contact info page and then [http://pingerati.net/ping/ ping Pingerati] would be an excellent start with getting them some experience with microformats and thinking about adding microformats to other places in their sites that make sense:
* [http://metaweb.com/ Metaweb Technologies]
** [http://www.freebase.com/ Freebase ]

==Trade directories==
* [http://www.booktrust.org.uk/info/search_publishers.php BookTrust (UK book publishers)]
* [http://www.gepir.org/ Global Electronic Party Information Register] (GEPIR) over 1 million companies
** Requested 2007-08-31 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

==Store locators==
(see [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22store+locator%22 Google search for "store locator"]; "about 2,000,000" results!)
* [http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ArgosGSGiftModeExitCmd?action=ArgosStoreLocatorMain?langId=-1&storeId=10001 Argos (UK)]
* [http://www.multimap.com/clients/places.cgi?client=asda_sf Asda (UK; part of WalMart)]
* [http://www.boots.com/storelocator/store_search.jsp Boots (UK)]
* [http://www.mcdonalds.co.uk/asp/locator/index.asp McDonalds (UK)]
* [http://www.tesco.com/storelocator/ Tesco (UK)]

==Other hCard==
* [http://www.imdb.com/ Internet Movie Database] (IMDb) for people (real, not characters), e.g. [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000007/ Humphrey Bogart]. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 02:49, 13 Nov 2006 (PST)
**Can't find contact info! [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
**See also example, below.
*Wikitravel
**e.g. [http://wikitravel.org/en/Birmingham_%28England%29 Wikitravel - Birmingham]
***[http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:MarkJaroski&curid=2699&diff=0&oldid=10663&rcid=19955 Wikitravel is about to hugely roll out hCard] Mark Jaroski
***See also [http://wikitravel.org/en/Wikitravel:Microformats Wikitravel:Microformats]
*[http://orlabs.oclc.org/Identities/ WorldCat Identities]
**The recently prototyped WorldCat Identities provides pages for 20 million 'identities', mainly authors and people who are the subjects of published titles.
**Requested by feedback form, 2007-03-09 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
** No reply, as of 02:02, 13 Jun 2007 (PDT)
*[http://geonames.org GeoNames]
**Requested by e-mail, 2007-06-07 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
**Reply confirms that they will deploy hCard and Geo
**Geo noted in use, 06:08, 30 Jul 2007 (PDT)
*[http://www.oup.com/oxforddnb/info/ Oxford Dictionary of National Biography] (ODNB); subscription based, but [http://www.oxforddnb.com/public/lotw/ some ODNB articles available free]. All 56,000+ entries have Date of Death.
*[http://www.findagrave.com/ Find-a-Grave] e.g. [http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=680 Karl Marx]. Most entries have Date of Death.
*[http://www.biography.com/ Biography.com] e.g. [http://www.biography.com/impressionists/monet-bio.jsp Camille Monet] Most posthumous entries have Date of Death.
*[http://www.cwgc.org/ Commonwealth War Graves Commission] (1.75 million people's details)
**E-mail sent 2007-08-24. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
*Civil Aviation Authority; UK aircraft register
** e.g [http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid=1&mode=detailnosummary&fullregmark=G-MOUR G-MOUR]
*[http://chicago.everyblock.com/ Chicago Everyblock]

== Successes ==
Perhaps we can consider moving successes to a separate page, like [[hcard-advocacy-successes]]. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
*Details of hCard should be added to the [http://www.imc.org/pdi/ Internet Mail Consortium's vCard page]
**Requested by e-mail, 2006-11-24 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
**'''Success''' achieved 2006-11-25. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
*W3C
**'''W3C webmaster''' [http://www.w3.org/People/Jean-Gui/ Jean-Guilhem Rouel] now has an hCard. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 15:41, 4 Apr 2007 (PDT)
* [http://jpgmag.com/ JPG magazine] - have sent email to their web developer with sample marked up member profile with [[hcard|hCard]] and [[xfn]] [[rel-me|rel="me"]]. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 23:48, 21 Feb 2007 (PST)
** [[hcard|hCard]]+[[xfn]] [[rel-me|rel="me"]] support as of March 2007.
* Twitter.com - working on it [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST).
** Completed [[hcard|hCard]]+[[xfn]]+[[hatom|hAtom]] support last week with help from Chris Messina. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 12:01, 16 May 2007 (PDT)
* Consumating.com - working on it [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST)
** [[hcard|hCard]] profiles, [[hcalendar|hCalendar]] events as of March 2007.
* [http://sunlightlabs.com/api/ SunlightLabs API] provides profiles for US Congresspeople. Their [http://sunlightlabs.com/api/masterref/megatable.php megatable] could easily be marked up with hCard, and their APIs could return hCards and hCard fields.
** [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 12:30, 20 Apr 2007 (PDT) contacted them and requested that they add hCard to megatable, consider a GethCard API method, and potentially a GethResume API method for each person.
** [[User:CarlAnderson|CarlAnderson]] 26 Apr 2007: http://sunlightlabs.com/api does now have a people.getHCard.php API method to get an hCard for every member of congress. See the documentation at http://sunlightlabs.com/api/people.getHCard.php. An example call: http://api.sunlightlabs.com/people.getHCard.php?id=fakeopenID1
** [[User:CarlAnderson|CarlAnderson]] 30 Apr 2007: I created a page of hCards for every member of congress: http://sunlightlabs.com/api/hcards/index.php
* [http://pownce.com Pownce] - I'm talking with them, and have requested the following (and a bit more) as of 2007-07-29 - [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
** needs to add class="photo" to image icon
*** 2007-09-02 success!
** needs to add class="note" to description
*** 2007-09-02 success!
** needs to add hCard+XFN to friends lists.
*** 2007-09-02 partial success, friends lists have hCard, have asked Daniel Burka to add rel="acquaintance" per [[xfn-clarifications#are_you_my_friend_yes_or_no|XFN clarifications for yes/no friend relationships]]. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 10:41, 3 Sep 2007 (PDT)
**** 2008-01 success!
** 2007-09-02 note also XFN rel="me" success: http://pownce.com/t/notes/644806/

===Wikpedia hCard===
*Infobox Templates for people mostly now have [[hcard|hCard]] in their generated markup
** [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Person Infobox_Person]; e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._O._Wilson E. O. Wilson]
** [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_actor Infobox_actor]; e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphrey_Bogart Humphrey Bogart]
*Addressable buildings e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Old_Crown%2C_Birmingham The Old Crown, Birmingham]
*Tourist attractions, e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadbury_World%2C_Birmingham Cadbury World]
*Companies, e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesco Tesco] (note headquarters address in infobox)
*Railway Stations, e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_Barr_railway_station Perry Barr]
*etc.
*See also [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Microformats WikiProject Microformats] [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 13:10, 28 Jan 2007 (PST)
* See also [[persondata|discussion of Wikipedia's Persondata]], which aligns very closely with hCard, but has additional date and place of birth & death fields. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 13:23, 28 Mar 2007 (PDT)

Some microformat data is now (2007-09-14) being removed from Wikipedia; see, for example [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Gaudi_Buildings&diff=prev&oldid=157704557 List_of_Gaudi_Buildings]

==See also==
*[[advocacy]] (in particular see [[advocacy#Geo|Geo advocacy]] - for the Geo microformat, including cases where it may be used inside hCard)
*[[advocacy-email-samples]]
{{hcard-related-pages}}

hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists

2008-02-03T02:13:40Z

JosephSmarr: /* Sites to check */

<h1>hCard+XFN supporting friends lists</h1>
{{TOC-right}}

Welcome! If you have an account on any of the following services, you already have a list of your friends' hCards with your relationship to them in XFN which you can provide to other services to save time by either importing or subscribing to social network information so you can change it on one site, and have other sites automatically updated, rather than having to re-add/remove all your social network contacts multiple times everytime you meet a new person, decide to unfriend someone etc.

== Sites to check ==
The following sites may have hCard or XFN support and need to be checked and placed into the following lists and those on [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles]] as well.
* http://360.yahoo.com
* http://amazon.com
* http://aol.com
* http://bebo.com
* http://bloglines.com
* http://blogspot.com
* http://del.icio.us
* http://digg.com
* http://dopplr.com
* http://facebook.com
* http://flickr.com
* http://hi5.com
* http://ilike.com
* http://imageshack.us
* http://jaiku.com
* http://last.fm
* http://linkedin.com
* http://livejournal.com
* http://ma.gnolia.com
* http://meetup.com
* http://mugshot.org
* http://multiply.com
* http://myspace.com
* http://picasaweb.google.com
* http://pictures.aol.com
* http://plaxo.com
* http://pownce.com
* http://reader.google.com
* http://reddit.com
* http://smugmug.com
* http://socializr.com
* http://spaces.live.com
* http://stumbleupon.com
* http://travelpod.com
* http://tribe.net
* http://tumblr.com
* http://twitter.com
* http://upcoming.yahoo.com
* http://vox.com
* http://webshots.com
* http://wordpress.com
* http://xanga.com
* http://yelp.com
* http://youtube.com
* http://ziki.com
* http://zooomr.com

== Services with hCard+XFN supporting friends lists ==
The following web sites support hCard+XFN on their friends lists and are thus suitable for importing/subscribing to other sites that support hCard+XFN. Alphabetically sorted. Feel free to add sites with hCard+XFN supporting friends lists here. Please include a link to the site home page, and instructions for retrieving your the URL of your hCard+XFN supporting friends list on that site.

<div style="font-size:larger">
* [http://www.corkd.com/ Cork'd] - login and copy the URL which should start with <nowiki>http://www.corkd.com/people/</nowiki>
* [http://dopplr.com Dopplr] - login and note that your user page has hCard and XFN for your contacts (site is private beta)
* http://pulse.plaxo.com/pulse/img/event_icons/LastFM.gif [http://www.last.fm/ Last FM] - login, click the "Friends" tab, and copy the URL which should look like: <nowiki>http://www.last.fm/user/[username]/friends/</nowiki>
* http://pulse.plaxo.com/pulse/img/event_icons/Magnolia.gif [http://ma.gnolia.com/ Ma.gnolia] - View your contacts page <nowiki>http://ma.gnolia.com/people/[username]/contacts</nowiki> . Note [[hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists-issues#Magnolia|issue(s)]].
* [http://www.nsyght.com/ Nsyght] - Visit your profile page and select "view all" on the friends component. Should look like this: <nowiki>http://www.nsyght.com/friends/[username]/</nowiki>, e.g. [http://nsyght.com/users/lisa sample profile].
* [http://soup.io Soup] - On user profile if the "Friends list" element is displayed (on by default), else at <nowiki>/friends</nowiki>
* http://pulse.plaxo.com/pulse/img/event_icons/Twitter.gif [http://twitter.com/ Twitter] - login, click on "Your profile" at the top, and copy the URL
</div>

== Services that import hCard+XFN supporting friends lists ==
The following web sites support importing your existing hCard+XFN supporting friends lists, e.g. from the above sites, and make use of both the XFN information and the hCards in the friends lists. Alphabetically sorted. Feel free to add sites supporting hCard+XFN import here. Please include a link to the site home page, and instructions for how to import friends on the site.

=== import ===
The following sites do one time imports of friends lists.

* [http://dopplr.com Dopplr] - as [http://blog.dopplr.com/index.php/2007/06/23/importing-your-social-network-from-other-sites/ announced] login and go to <nowiki>http://www.dopplr.com/account/fellows_from_hcard</nowiki> to import (site is private beta)

* [http://t.heproject.com/ The Project] - Login with your OpenID and the site automatically tries to subscribe to your XFN friends list where it intersects with their userbase
** appears to fail logging in with a delegated OpenID, e.g. http://tantek.com/ - unable to verify import friends list support. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 10:03, 1 Feb 2008 (PST)

=== import and subscribe ===
The following sites support both importing and subscribing to friends lists.
* None currently.

=== delegation ===
The following sites support fully delegating your friends list to an external hCard+XFN friends list.
* None currently.

== Services with XFN supporting friends lists ==
<div style="font-size:larger">
* [http://3eep.com/ 3eep] - each user's friends are linked to with XFN is located at <nowiki>http://3eep.com/users/[username]</nowiki>
* [http://couchsurfing.com CouchSurfing] profiles have XFN Friendly friends lists (e.g. [http://www.couchsurfing.com/people/guaka Guaka's]).
* http://pulse.plaxo.com/pulse/img/event_icons/LiveJournal.gif [[implementations#LiveJournal|LiveJournal]] - login, click on the "Profile" link, and copy the URL which should start with <nowiki>http://USERNAME.livejournal.com/profile</nowiki> where USERNAME is your LJ username. E.g. [http://daveman692.livejournal.com/profile]. LiveJournal profiles have complete friends lists marked up in XFN.
* [http://wordpress.com Wordpress.com] and any other blogs using Wordpress 1.5 or later have XFN supporting blog rolls.
* [http://odeo.com Odeo] — the "peep's" list of each user is marked up with XFN (rel="contact") e.g. http://odeo.com/profile/JeremyKeith
</div>

== Services that import XFN supporting friends lists ==
The following web sites support importing your existing XFN supporting friends lists, e.g. from the above sites. Alphabetically sorted. Feel free to add sites supporting XFN import here. Please include a link to the site home page, and instructions for how to import friends on the site.
=== import ===
The following sites do one time imports of friends lists.
* None currently.
=== import and subscribe ===
The following sites support both importing and subscribing to friends lists.
* None currently.
=== delegation ===
The following sites support fully delegating your friends list to an external XFN friends list.
* None currently.

== Services with XFN rel="me" to multiple external sites ==
The following services have a UI for entering any number of websites/homepages/blogs and publish it as part of your profile, linking to it with [[rel-me]].
<div style="font-size:larger">
* http://pulse.plaxo.com/pulse/img/event_icons/Digg.gif [http://digg.com/ Digg] - e.g. http://digg.com/users/tantek
* http://pulse.plaxo.com/pulse/img/event_icons/plaxo.gif [http://plaxo.com/ Plaxo] - e.g. http://joseph.myplaxo.com/
* http://pulse.plaxo.com/pulse/img/event_icons/Pownce.gif [http://pownce.com/ Pownce] - login, go to your profile, and copy the URL which should start with <nowiki>http://pownce.com/</nowiki>
</div>

== Services with XFN rel="me" to one external site ==
The following services have a UI for entering one website/homepage/blog and publish it as part of your profile, linking to it with [[rel-me]].
<div style="font-size:larger">
* http://pulse.plaxo.com/pulse/img/event_icons/Digg.gif [http://digg.com/ Digg] - e.g. http://digg.com/users/tantek
* [http://eventful.com/ Eventful] - login, click on your username, and copy that URL.
* http://pulse.plaxo.com/pulse/img/event_icons/Flickr.gif [http://flickr.com/ Flickr] - login, click "Your Photos", click "Profile", and copy the URL which should be <nowiki>http://flickr.com/people/[username]/</nowiki>
** Flickr supports rel="me" identity consolidation with your webpage that you enter into your profile, and with your Flickr contacts page. See [http://flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/113866484/ screenshot of Flickr UI in Flock browser using Flocktails extension - March 17th 2006].
* [http://jpgmag.com JPG Magazine]
* http://pulse.plaxo.com/pulse/img/event_icons/LastFM.gif [http://www.last.fm/ Last.FM] - login, go to your profile, and copy the URL which should start with <nowiki>http://www.last.fm/user/</nowiki>
** Last.FM supports rel="me" identity consolidation with your webpage that you enter into your profile, and with your Last.FM friends page.
* http://pulse.plaxo.com/pulse/img/event_icons/Magnolia.gif [http://ma.gnolia.com/ Ma.gnolia]
* [http://nsyght.com Nsyght] - e.g. [http://nsyght.com/users/lisa sample profile].
* http://pulse.plaxo.com/pulse/img/event_icons/plaxo.gif [http://plaxo.com/ Plaxo] - e.g. http://joseph.myplaxo.com/
* http://pulse.plaxo.com/pulse/img/event_icons/Pownce.gif [http://pownce.com/ Pownce] - login, go to your profile, and copy the URL which should start with <nowiki>http://pownce.com/</nowiki>
** Pownce [http://pownce.com/t/notes/644806/ supports rel="me" for LOTS of other profiles].
* [http://soup.io Soup] - on user profile
* http://pulse.plaxo.com/pulse/img/event_icons/Twitter.gif [http://twitter.com/ Twitter] - login, click on "Your profile" at the top, and copy the URL
* http://openid.net/wp-content/uploads/vox.png [http://vox.com/ Vox] - e.g. [http://anil.vox.com/ 1].
</div>

== Implement hCard XFN supporting friends lists ==
Want to implement hCard+XFN on your site so you can list it here?

# '''Markup friends with hCard.''' See the [[hcard-authoring|hCard authoring]] page for how to mark-up names, links, icons of people in friends lists with hCard.
# '''XFN on friend links.''' Friends lists should be marked up with XFN per [[xfn-clarifications#mapping_community_site_.22friends.22|XFN clarifications: mapping community site friends]]. See also the [http://www.gmpg.org/xfn/join XFN: Getting Started] page for how to markup links to people with XFN. See also the [[hcard-examples#hCard_and_XFN|hCard examples: hCard and XFN]] which demonstrates this and the previous step quite well.
# '''rel="me" to a user's other URLs'''. Hyperlinks to users' home pages or blogs should have the XFN <code>rel="me"</code> attribute to support user-driven (since the user chooses the URL to link to) identity consolidation.
# '''rel="me" on "View All Friends..." links'''. If a user profile page on your site links to a separate page for that user's friends list, add <code>rel="me"</code> to that link.
# '''rel="me" on friends list pagination links'''. If your site paginates a user's friend list into multiple pages, be sure to add <code>rel="me next"</code> to your "Next" pagination hyperlinks, and similarly <code>rel="me prev"</code> to your "Previous" pagination hyperlinks.

Please also consider implementing [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles|hCard user profiles]].

== Implement import XFN friends lists ==
Want to implement importing (and preferably subscribing to) XFN friends lists on your site so you can list it here?

In addition to implementing hCard XFN supporting friends lists yourself (see above), do the following:

# '''Provide a user interface to "Import Friends"''' (like a button or menu item)
# '''When chosen, provide a text input field for the user to enter their profile URL''' (such as their blog or XFN friends list URL). If you already have the user's "Website", pre-fill the field with it, or if the user has many "Other Profiles", pre-fill the field with the first, and let the user pick any of them with a Select pop-up menu, or provide the user the option to just import XFN from all of them at once.
# '''Parse the [[XFN]] at the URL(s) given''' (links with rel="contact" or "acquaintance" or "friend" etc.) and check to see if there are any users on your site with any of those links as their rel="me" "Website" or among their rel="me" "Other Profiles" and add them to a list of people to invite. Crawl any symmetrical rel="me" links, especially symmetrical rel="me next" and/or rel="me prev" friends list pagination links for additional URLs to parse for XFN. Consider also parsing those URLs simultaneously for hCards that have those XFN links as class="url" hCard properties, and if the hCards have additional contact information such as instant messaging or email, add them to the list of people to invite.
# '''Present the list of people to invite''', perhaps sorted by "closeness" of XFN relationships (e.g. list family relationships before just romantic relationships before just friends before just professional relationships before just acquaintances before just contacts before just met etc.) with a "Add Friend" button next to each. When clicked, use [[XHR]] to add that person without altering the overall list, and change the Add button into a Cancel button. Perhaps put an "Add all" button at the top (or bottom) to let the user simply add everyone listed with one click.
# '''Consider also providing a checkbox "<nowiki>[x]</nowiki> Subscribe to XFN friends"''' which would automatically run this import perhaps once a day and notify the user of new contacts found that they may want to add, and similarly present an "Add all" button.

== For more information ==
In addition to the previous "Implement" sections, see the [[hcard-authoring|hCard authoring]] page for how to mark-up information about a person with hCard, and [http://gmpg.org/xfn/join XFN getting started] page for how to mark-up friend links with XFN.

Join the [http://microformats.org/discuss microformats community], in particular the #microformats IRC channel on irc://irc.freenode.net#microformats and the [http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-dev/ microformats-dev mailing list], and send a message stating that you'd like to add hCard to the profiles and hCard+XFN supporting friends lists (and importing thereof) to your website.

Please also consider implementing [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles|hCard supporting user profiles]].

See [[hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists-issues|hCard+XFN supporting friends lists issues]] for issues, problems with implementations.

== See also ==
* [[xfn|XFN]] ([http://gmpg.org/xfn/ spec], [[xfn-faq|FAQ]], [[xfn-implementations|implementations]] - there are a few more in there that need to be copied and expanded in this page.)
* [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles]]
* [[hcard|hCard]] ([[hcard-authoring|authoring]], [[hcard-faq|FAQ]])
* [[social-network-portability]]
* [[data-portability]]
* [[user-interface]]

User:JosephSmarr

2007-08-17T20:47:56Z

JosephSmarr:

Joseph Smarr, Chief Platform Architect, Plaxo<br />
http://josephsmarr.com<br />
hCard: http://joseph.myplaxo.com

{{public-domain-release}}

xfn-brainstorming

2007-08-17T20:47:11Z

JosephSmarr:

<h1> XFN Brainstorming </h1>
This page is for brainstorming about various uses and details of [[XFN]], as well as collecting input for potential extensions.

__TOC__

== Required Reading ==

Before participating in any XFN brainstorming please read and understand the following:
* [http://gmpg.org/xfn/intro XFN intro]
* [http://gmpg.org/xfn/background XFN background]
* [[xfn-faq|XFN FAQ]]
* [http://gmpg.org/xfn/and XFN and other services]

== Contributors ==
* [http://tantek.com/ Tantek Çelik]
* [[User:CiaranMc |CiaranMc ]]

== Identity Consolidation ==

First, read http://gmpg.org/xfn/and/

Capturing some Q&A and thoughts here before I clean it up for the FAQ and/or a separate [[identity-consolidation]] page (or perhaps a [[rel-me]] page that discusses identity consolidation).

2007-08-17 Q's are paraphrased from [[User:JosephSmarr]] of Plaxo, and A's are written/edited by [[User:Tantek]].

'''Q:''' do the rel="me" links need to be in both directions to verify the link? seems like they do, since otherwise someone could find anything that links to them and "claim" it just by linking to back to it with rel="me".

A: Yes, in general rel="me" links need to be in both directions for exactly that reason.

'''Q:''' But some sites that let you list your homepage on the profile don't use rel="me", so do we have to just get them all to use it before bi-directional claims will work right?

A: Not necessarily. Of course we prefer the [[advocacy]] path to get them to implement rel="me", but for old sites, as documented on http://gmpg.org/xfn/and/ we can check that specific fields on the the profile page are filled in accordingly, with site specific heurstics.

'''Q:''' So either they need to use rel="me" or we can scrape known sites and trust the link anyway?

A: rel="me" is the standard that scales (so new players "just work") and for "old players" we write a white-list with compat rules to make it work.

'''Q:''' So i guess the idea is i can't insert a rel="me" link into any user-generated content, like comments on someone else's blog?

A: Right, and [[rel-nofollow]] (and [[vote-links]] "vote-against" or "vote-abstain" for that matter) should nullify the rel="me".

'''Q:''' What about Yelp which uses rel="nofollow" to your home page link?

A: Well the way around it is to *only* look for that specific "home page" link, not any link on the page, that's the key for old players, with the assumption being that *only* the user/owner of that profile could change that URL. In addition Yelp is actually violating the [[rel-nofollow]] spec because that's not a third party link, that's a first party link, by the owner of that user profile, and therefore it MUST NOT have rel="nofollow" on it. This bug should be reported to them.

'''Q:''' Is two-way links plus transitive closure sufficient? Because many sites may only link to your homepage which then links out to many other sites and you'd like to be able to "reel those in"?

A: 2-way links plus transitive closure is a good start. But there are common cases where you'll have 3-step triangle circuits you need to detect. For instance, say my Plaxo profile page is joseph.myplaxo.com and I want to add my twitter page twitter.com/jsmarr. My twitter page only links to my home page josephsmarr.com, but that page links back to twitter and also to my plaxo profile. So you can prove I'm authoritative for twitter.com/jsmarr even though it doesn't have a two-way link with joseph.myplaxo.com. There may be even more complex cases, but I think the 3-way is common because many sites only let you have one URL link, which will usually be to your home page, so unless you start by telling a site your home page, you will have to crawl from a "spoke" into the "hub" and then back out again. So in general, you'll need to keep all the rel="me" links on all the pages you crawl, then assemble the graph, then detect all the circuits, and then all the nodes in circuits that are connected to the root page you're starting with are verified. I think. :)

'''Q:''' How should I crawl rel="me" links then?

A: Do each 2-way one at a time. e.g. go to a rel="me" destination, look for rel="me" link back to the same page in that source, and *then* enqueue all the remaining rel="me" links for crawling. Enqueue rel="me" relations as you crawl, e.g. you crawl a, you don't enqueue just the destinations of links b and c, but rather, enqueue the relations a-me->b, a-me->c. And then you crawl the destinations in the queue, and for confirmed rel="me" 2ways, just move those to another list, e.g. when you see b-me->a you just remove a-me->b from the queue and put a<->b into the "me" file, and when you see b-me->d you just add it to the queue. Repeat until you have crawled all the destinations in the queue and you're done.

'''Q:''' There are often multiple equivalent pages, like http://flickr.com/photos/jsmarr , http://www.flickr.com/photos/jsmarr , http://flickr.com/people/jsmarr , http://flickr.com/people/jsmarr/profile . Do we need to write equivalence rules or just make people use the same form?

A: Such pages should a) rel="me" link to both "www." and non "www." versions themselves either via the links already on the page (as they often already have), OR add equivalent <link rel="me" href="..." /> tags to the <head> of the document.

'''Q:''' So when crawling a page for rel="me" links, should I look for BOTH <a rel="me" links in the body AND <link rel="me" links in the head?

A: Yes, they're equivalent, so look for both.

Related: [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles]], [[hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists]].

== Extending family relationships ==
<cite>[http://www.gmpg.org/xfn/background The XFN: Background page]</cite> says:
<blockquote>
We considered adding "grandparent," but in the end dropped the term because it seemed unlikely to be used in the near future. It may appear in future versions of XFN.
</blockquote>

Presumably the assumption is that a grandparent won't have a website, but:

* I think it's important in some situations to capture the age difference in a relationship in a way that @rel="kin" doesn't seem to.
* Even if they don't maintain it themselves (or are deceased) there might be a URL that does a good job of representing a person.

Consider a site about one's family tree. It might have something like:

I can trace my family back to
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_I_of_England/">
William the conqueror.
</a>

In these cases it would be useful to have @rel="ancestor", and perhaps a corresponding @rel="descendant".
-CiaranMc

== Simple Groups and Members ==

A very simple extension to XFN could enable decentralized group membership. E.g.
* rel="group". A person could link from their page to the page of a group that they belong to (e.g. their company, school, DJ collective etc.) and thus assert that they belong to that group.
* rel="member". The web pages of groups could link to who they consider members and thus assert that person's membership.

The relationships could be required bi-directional in order to confirm group membership, that is, both the individual must link to the group with rel="group" and the group must link to the individiual with rel="member" in order for the membership to be considered "true".

See also [[group-brainstorming]].

-Tantek

== Fans and followers ==

It's becoming a common aspect of many social networks that you have unreciprocated and non-friend-based connections to people. These connections are particularly noteworthy where you don't really ever expect to have your connections reciprocated, but instead are similar to the idea of "rel-muse".

I would propose adding "rel-fan" or "rel-follower" to the collection of XFN values -- as being something like a "contact" or a "muse" but having a different purpose within the realm of social networking. Again, given that this is showing up in social networks like Pownce (fan), Twitter (follower), and that these words are becoming common, I wonder if it wouldn't make sense to even ditch rel-muse in favor of rel-follower and rel-fan (the former implying some kind of positive social stalking and the latter a kind of amiable appreciation for someone's work).

This fan/follower designation seems sorely lacking from Flickr where everyone falls into either contact, friend or family... but in many cases, you just like someone's photos and want to be able to check in on them every now and again, similar to the way that people "follow" or "subscribe" to blog feeds... Someone who reads my blog feed could be considered a "follower" -- as in, "someone who follows my blog".

- Chris Messina

Examples (sites that have the concept of "fan" or "follower")
* http://twitter.com/ (has followers vs friends)
* http://upcoming.org/ (has fans vs friends)
* http://pownce.com/ (has fans vs friends)
[[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 02:34, 8 Jul 2007 (PDT)

Chris, rel-fan or re-follower would work for you to point to people who follow you, but the converse case is probably more useful, saying who you follow (eg blogroll case too). We need a good noun for that relationship that describes how you view them, that is less coloured than 'muse' currently is by being classified as romantic. rel-source or rel-influence maybe? Very hard to come up with a good noun. [[User:Kevin Marks|Kevin Marks]] 12:57, 17 Aug 2007 (PDT)

== Mentors and Mentees ==
Though seemingly rare, I personally have found use for <code>rel="mentor"</code> and inverse <code>rel="mentee"</code> (see Wiktionary definitions: [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mentor mentor], [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mentee mentee]). I don't have sufficient evidence to even consider proposing adding these to XFN, but I wanted to capture them here as a brainstorm while I look into using them personally and research examples in the wild.

[[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 02:34, 8 Jul 2007 (PDT)

== See Also ==
* [[xfn]]
* [[hcard|hCard]]
* [[hcard-brainstorming|hCard brainstorming]]

User:JosephSmarr

2007-08-17T20:29:11Z

JosephSmarr:

Joseph Smarr, Chief Platform Architect, Plaxo
http://josephsmarr.com

{{public-domain-release}}

User:JosephSmarr

2007-08-17T20:28:57Z

JosephSmarr:

Joseph Smarr, Chief Platform Architect, Plaxo
http://josephsmarr.com

{{public-domain-release}

xfn-brainstorming

2007-08-17T20:28:25Z

JosephSmarr:

<h1> XFN Brainstorming </h1>
This page is for brainstorming about various uses and details of [[XFN]], as well as collecting input for potential extensions.

__TOC__

== Required Reading ==

Before participating in any XFN brainstorming please read and understand the following:
* [http://gmpg.org/xfn/intro XFN intro]
* [http://gmpg.org/xfn/background XFN background]
* [[xfn-faq|XFN FAQ]]
* [http://gmpg.org/xfn/and XFN and other services]

== Contributors ==
* [http://tantek.com/ Tantek Çelik]
* [[User:CiaranMc |CiaranMc ]]

== Identity Consolidation ==

First, read http://gmpg.org/xfn/and/

Capturing some Q&A and thoughts here before I clean it up for the FAQ and/or a separate [[identity-consolidation]] page (or perhaps a [[rel-me]] page that discusses identity consolidation).

2007-08-17 Q's are paraphrased from [[User:JosephSmarr]] of Plaxo, and A's are written/edited by [[User:Tantek]].

'''Q:''' do the rel="me" links need to be in both directions to verify the link? seems like they do, since otherwise someone could find anything that links to them and "claim" it just by linking to back to it with rel="me".

A: Yes, in general rel="me" links need to be in both directions for exactly that reason.

'''Q:''' But some sites that let you list your homepage on the profile don't use rel="me", so do we have to just get them all to use it before bi-directional claims will work right?

A: Not necessarily. Of course we prefer the [[advocacy]] path to get them to implement rel="me", but for old sites, as documented on http://gmpg.org/xfn/and/ we can check that specific fields on the the profile page are filled in accordingly, with site specific heurstics.

'''Q:''' So either they need to use rel="me" or we can scrape known sites and trust the link anyway?

A: rel="me" is the standard that scales (so new players "just work") and for "old players" we write a white-list with compat rules to make it work.

'''Q:''' So i guess the idea is i can't insert a rel="me" link into any user-generated content, like comments on someone else's blog?

A: Right, and [[rel-nofollow]] (and [[vote-links]] "vote-against" or "vote-abstain" for that matter) should nullify the rel="me".

'''Q:''' What about Yelp which uses rel="nofollow" to your home page link?

A: Well the way around it is to *only* look for that specific "home page" link, not any link on the page, that's the key for old players, with the assumption being that *only* the user/owner of that profile could change that URL. In addition Yelp is actually violating the [[rel-nofollow]] spec because that's not a third party link, that's a first party link, by the owner of that user profile, and therefore it MUST NOT have rel="nofollow" on it. This bug should be reported to them.

'''Q:''' Is two-way links plus transitive closurer sufficient? Because many sites may only link to your homepage which then links out to many other sites and you'd like to be able to "reel those in"?

A: Yes. 2-way links plus transitive closure.

'''Q:''' How should I crawl rel="me" links then?

A: Do each 2-way one at a time. e.g. go to a rel="me" destination, look for rel="me" link back to the same page in that source, and *then* enqueue all the remaining rel="me" links for crawling. Enqueue rel="me" relations as you crawl, e.g. you crawl a, you don't enqueue just the destinations of links b and c, but rather, enqueue the relations a-me->b, a-me->c. And then you crawl the destinations in the queue, and for confirmed rel="me" 2ways, just move those to another list, e.g. when you see b-me->a you just remove a-me->b from the queue and put a<->b into the "me" file, and when you see b-me->d you just add it to the queue. Repeat until you have crawled all the destinations in the queue and you're done.

'''Q:''' There are often multiple equivalent pages, like http://flickr.com/photos/jsmarr , http://www.flickr.com/photos/jsmarr , http://flickr.com/people/jsmarr , http://flickr.com/people/jsmarr/profile . Do we need to write equivalence rules or just make people use the same form?

A: Such pages should a) rel="me" link to both "www." and non "www." versions themselves either via the links already on the page (as they often already have), OR add equivalent <link rel="me" href="..." /> tags to the <head> of the document.

'''Q:''' So when crawling a page for rel="me" links, should I look for BOTH <a rel="me" links in the body AND <link rel="me" links in the head?

A: Yes, they're equivalent, so look for both.

Related: [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles]], [[hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists]].

== Extending family relationships ==
<cite>[http://www.gmpg.org/xfn/background The XFN: Background page]</cite> says:
<blockquote>
We considered adding "grandparent," but in the end dropped the term because it seemed unlikely to be used in the near future. It may appear in future versions of XFN.
</blockquote>

Presumably the assumption is that a grandparent won't have a website, but:

* I think it's important in some situations to capture the age difference in a relationship in a way that @rel="kin" doesn't seem to.
* Even if they don't maintain it themselves (or are deceased) there might be a URL that does a good job of representing a person.

Consider a site about one's family tree. It might have something like:

I can trace my family back to
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_I_of_England/">
William the conqueror.
</a>

In these cases it would be useful to have @rel="ancestor", and perhaps a corresponding @rel="descendant".
-CiaranMc

== Simple Groups and Members ==

A very simple extension to XFN could enable decentralized group membership. E.g.
* rel="group". A person could link from their page to the page of a group that they belong to (e.g. their company, school, DJ collective etc.) and thus assert that they belong to that group.
* rel="member". The web pages of groups could link to who they consider members and thus assert that person's membership.

The relationships could be required bi-directional in order to confirm group membership, that is, both the individual must link to the group with rel="group" and the group must link to the individiual with rel="member" in order for the membership to be considered "true".

See also [[group-brainstorming]].

-Tantek

== Fans and followers ==

It's becoming a common aspect of many social networks that you have unreciprocated and non-friend-based connections to people. These connections are particularly noteworthy where you don't really ever expect to have your connections reciprocated, but instead are similar to the idea of "rel-muse".

I would propose adding "rel-fan" or "rel-follower" to the collection of XFN values -- as being something like a "contact" or a "muse" but having a different purpose within the realm of social networking. Again, given that this is showing up in social networks like Pownce (fan), Twitter (follower), and that these words are becoming common, I wonder if it wouldn't make sense to even ditch rel-muse in favor of rel-follower and rel-fan (the former implying some kind of positive social stalking and the latter a kind of amiable appreciation for someone's work).

This fan/follower designation seems sorely lacking from Flickr where everyone falls into either contact, friend or family... but in many cases, you just like someone's photos and want to be able to check in on them every now and again, similar to the way that people "follow" or "subscribe" to blog feeds... Someone who reads my blog feed could be considered a "follower" -- as in, "someone who follows my blog".

- Chris Messina

Examples (sites that have the concept of "fan" or "follower")
* http://twitter.com/ (has followers vs friends)
* http://upcoming.org/ (has fans vs friends)
* http://pownce.com/ (has fans vs friends)
[[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 02:34, 8 Jul 2007 (PDT)

Chris, rel-fan or re-follower would work for you to point to people who follow you, but the converse case is probably more useful, saying who you follow (eg blogroll case too). We need a good noun for that relationship that describes how you view them, that is less coloured than 'muse' currently is by being classified as romantic. rel-source or rel-influence maybe? Very hard to come up with a good noun. [[User:Kevin Marks|Kevin Marks]] 12:57, 17 Aug 2007 (PDT)

== Mentors and Mentees ==
Though seemingly rare, I personally have found use for <code>rel="mentor"</code> and inverse <code>rel="mentee"</code> (see Wiktionary definitions: [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mentor mentor], [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mentee mentee]). I don't have sufficient evidence to even consider proposing adding these to XFN, but I wanted to capture them here as a brainstorm while I look into using them personally and research examples in the wild.

[[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 02:34, 8 Jul 2007 (PDT)

== See Also ==
* [[xfn]]
* [[hcard|hCard]]
* [[hcard-brainstorming|hCard brainstorming]]

User:JosephSmarr

2007-08-17T20:23:34Z

JosephSmarr:

Joseph Smarr, Chief Platform Architect, Plaxo
http://josephsmarr.com

hcard-supporting-user-profiles

2007-08-15T21:37:50Z

JosephSmarr:

<h1>hCard supporting user profiles</h1>
Welcome! If you have an account on any of the following services, you already have an hCard which you can provide to other services to save time by either importing or subscribing to your profile information so you can change it on one site, and have other sites automatically updated, rather than having to re-enter all your profile information multiple times, every time you move, get a new phone number, change your job etc.

== Services with hCard profiles ==
The following web sites support hCard on their user profiles and are thus suitable for importing/subscribing to other sites that support hCard. Alphabetically sorted. Feel free to add sites with hCard profiles here. Please include a link to the site home page, and instructions for retrieving your user profile URL on that site.

* [http://3eep.com/ 3eep] - each user's public profile is located at <nowiki>http://3eep.com/users/userNameHere</nowiki>
* [http://www.artistserver.com/ ArtistServer] - each user's public profile is located at <nowiki>http://www.artistserver.com/userURLHere</nowiki>
* [http://claimid.com/ ClaimID] - each user's public profile is located at <nowiki>http://claimid.com/userNameHere</nowiki>
* [http://www.corkd.com/ Cork'd] - login and copy the URL which should start with <nowiki>http://www.corkd.com/people/</nowiki>
* [http://flickr.com/ Flickr] - login, click "Your Photos", click "Profile", and copy the URL which should start with <nowiki>http://flickr.com/people/</nowiki>
* [http://jpgmag.com/ JPG Magazine] - each user's public profile is located at <nowiki>http://jpgmag.com/people/userNameHere</nowiki>, e.g. http://jpgmag.com/people/jpd
* [http://www.last.fm/ Last FM]
* [http://www.plaxo.com/ Plaxo] - create a nickname in your settings, then go to NICKNAME.myplaxo.com (e.g. http://joseph.myplaxo.com) and copy the URL
* [http://pownce.com/ Pownce] - login, click on the "Home" link at the top, and copy the URL.
* [http://www.getsatisfaction.com/ Satisfaction]
* [http://technorati.com/ Technorati] - login, click on the "Signed in as username" username link at the top right of the page, and copy the URL which should start with <nowiki>http://technorati.com/profile/</nowiki>
* [http://twitter.com/ Twitter] - login, click on "Your profile" at the top, and copy the URL
* [http://upcoming.yahoo.com/ Upcoming] - login, click on the "Welcome, username!" username link at the top right of the page, and copy the URL which should start with <nowiki>http://upcoming.yahoo.com/user/</nowiki>
* [http://www.yedda.com/ Yedda]
* ... add more sites (alphabetically sorted please) that support hCard, including instructions for finding and copying your profile URL.

=== Used to have hCard profiles ===
The following services used to have hCard user profiles but somehow got lost/ regressed in an upgrade or something.
* [http://zooomr.com/ Zooomr] - '''hCard support appears to have been lost in their Zooomr Mark III release in 2007 June. Was:''' login, click on the "Your Profile" link, and copy the URL which should start with <nowiki>http://zooomr.com/people/</nowiki>.

== Services that import hCard profiles==
The following web sites support importing your existing hCard user profile, e.g. from the above sites, or your own page. Alphabetically sorted. Feel free to add sites supporting hCard user profile import here. Please include a link to the site home page, and instructions for how to import your existing hCard user profile to the site.
* [http://getsatisfaction.com/ Satisfaction Inc.] - go to [http://getsatisfaction.com/people/new their sign in and registration page], choose the service of your existing profile or "Other..." and enter your profile URL (which you can retrieve as described above).
**Requires Javascript + XHR (XML-HTTP-Request) support

== For more information ==
Want to implement hCard on your site so you can list it here?

See the [[hcard-authoring|hCard authoring]] page for how to mark-up information about a person with hCard.

Join the [http://microformats.org/discuss microformats community], in particular the [http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-dev/ microformats-dev mailing list], and send a message stating that you'd like to add hCard to the profiles on your website.

Please also consider implementing [[hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists|hCard+XFN friends lists]].

For more information see:
* [[hcard|hCard standard]] / [[hcard-faq|FAQ]].
* [[social-network-portability]].

hcard-supporting-user-profiles

2007-08-15T21:37:21Z

JosephSmarr:

<h1>hCard supporting user profiles</h1>
Welcome! If you have an account on any of the following services, you already have an hCard which you can provide to other services to save time by either importing or subscribing to your profile information so you can change it on one site, and have other sites automatically updated, rather than having to re-enter all your profile information multiple times, every time you move, get a new phone number, change your job etc.

== Services with hCard profiles ==
The following web sites support hCard on their user profiles and are thus suitable for importing/subscribing to other sites that support hCard. Alphabetically sorted. Feel free to add sites with hCard profiles here. Please include a link to the site home page, and instructions for retrieving your user profile URL on that site.

* [http://3eep.com/ 3eep] - each user's public profile is located at <nowiki>http://3eep.com/users/userNameHere</nowiki>
* [http://www.artistserver.com/ ArtistServer] - each user's public profile is located at <nowiki>http://www.artistserver.com/userURLHere</nowiki>
* [http://claimid.com/ ClaimID] - each user's public profile is located at <nowiki>http://claimid.com/userNameHere</nowiki>
* [http://www.corkd.com/ Cork'd] - login and copy the URL which should start with <nowiki>http://www.corkd.com/people/</nowiki>
* [http://flickr.com/ Flickr] - login, click "Your Photos", click "Profile", and copy the URL which should start with <nowiki>http://flickr.com/people/</nowiki>
* [http://jpgmag.com/ JPG Magazine] - each user's public profile is located at <nowiki>http://jpgmag.com/people/userNameHere</nowiki>, e.g. http://jpgmag.com/people/jpd
* [http://www.last.fm/ Last FM]
* [http://www.plaxo.com/ Plaxo] - create a nickname in your settings, then go to NICKNAME.myplaxo.com (e.g. http://joseph.myplaxo.com)
* [http://pownce.com/ Pownce] - login, click on the "Home" link at the top, and copy the URL.
* [http://www.getsatisfaction.com/ Satisfaction]
* [http://technorati.com/ Technorati] - login, click on the "Signed in as username" username link at the top right of the page, and copy the URL which should start with <nowiki>http://technorati.com/profile/</nowiki>
* [http://twitter.com/ Twitter] - login, click on "Your profile" at the top, and copy the URL
* [http://upcoming.yahoo.com/ Upcoming] - login, click on the "Welcome, username!" username link at the top right of the page, and copy the URL which should start with <nowiki>http://upcoming.yahoo.com/user/</nowiki>
* [http://www.yedda.com/ Yedda]
* ... add more sites (alphabetically sorted please) that support hCard, including instructions for finding and copying your profile URL.

=== Used to have hCard profiles ===
The following services used to have hCard user profiles but somehow got lost/ regressed in an upgrade or something.
* [http://zooomr.com/ Zooomr] - '''hCard support appears to have been lost in their Zooomr Mark III release in 2007 June. Was:''' login, click on the "Your Profile" link, and copy the URL which should start with <nowiki>http://zooomr.com/people/</nowiki>.

== Services that import hCard profiles==
The following web sites support importing your existing hCard user profile, e.g. from the above sites, or your own page. Alphabetically sorted. Feel free to add sites supporting hCard user profile import here. Please include a link to the site home page, and instructions for how to import your existing hCard user profile to the site.
* [http://getsatisfaction.com/ Satisfaction Inc.] - go to [http://getsatisfaction.com/people/new their sign in and registration page], choose the service of your existing profile or "Other..." and enter your profile URL (which you can retrieve as described above).
**Requires Javascript + XHR (XML-HTTP-Request) support

== For more information ==
Want to implement hCard on your site so you can list it here?

See the [[hcard-authoring|hCard authoring]] page for how to mark-up information about a person with hCard.

Join the [http://microformats.org/discuss microformats community], in particular the [http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-dev/ microformats-dev mailing list], and send a message stating that you'd like to add hCard to the profiles on your website.

Please also consider implementing [[hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists|hCard+XFN friends lists]].

For more information see:
* [[hcard|hCard standard]] / [[hcard-faq|FAQ]].
* [[social-network-portability]].