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events/2008-03-28-san-diego-dinner

2008-03-24T21:13:29Z

Joshua Brewer: /* details */

<h1> San Diego microformats dinner meetup </h1>

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A gathering of microformats folks in San Diego for an informal dinner. One of several microformats [[events]].

== details ==
<div class="vevent">
;When
:<span class="dtstart"><span class="value">2008-03-28T19:30:00-07:00</span></span>
;Where
:<span class="location vcard"><span class="fn org">[http://www.yelp.com/biz/gateway-to-india-by-ker-san-diego Gateway to India]</span>, <span class="adr"><span class="street-address">9520 Black Mountain Road</span>, <span class="locality">San Diego</span>, <span class="region">CA</span> <span class="postal-code">92126</span>, <span class="country-name">USA</span></span></span>
;What
:<span class="summary">San Diego microformats dinner meetup </span>
;Web
: Upcoming: <span class="url">TBD</span>
</div>

== tags ==
Please use ''all'' of the following tags when tagging related content (blog posts, photos):

tags: '''microformatsmeetup microformatsmeetup2008 microformatsmeetup2008SanDiego SanDiego microformats'''

== attendees ==
Add yourself alphabetically by family-name if you're stopping by:

* [[User:Joshua_Brewer|Joshua Brewer]]
* [[User:Adora|Lisa Brewster]]
* [[User:Tantek|Tantek Çelik]]
* [[User:Adactio|Jeremy Keith]]
* [[User:EdwardOConnor|Edward O'Connor]]
* ...

== photographs ==
Please use ''all'' of the following tags when tagging related photos:

tags: '''microformatsmeetup microformatsmeetup2008 microformatsmeetup2008SanDiego SanDiego microformats'''


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== notes ==
Session comments and Q&A.
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== articles and blog posts ==
Articles and blog posts following up on the meetup. Newest first.

Please use ''all'' of the following tags when tagging related blog posts:

tags: '''microformatsmeetup microformatsmeetup2008 microformatsmeetup2008SanDiego SanDiego microformats'''

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== related pages==
{{events-related-pages}}

User:Joshua Brewer

2008-03-03T03:02:40Z

Joshua Brewer:

<h1>Joshua Brewer</h1>

<p>A standards-based, UI geek from San Diego. The Creative Director, the Usability Expert, Information Architect, Graphic Artist, CSS specialist, XHTML semanticist, coffee barista, janitor and bookkeeper for Brewer Deisgn Group (a small [really small] web design studio with an emphasis on usable, standards-based design).</p>

<h2>External Links</h2>
<p>[http://www.brewerdesigngroup.com/contact hCard]</p>
<p>[http://www.brewerdesigngroup.com Professional Site]</p>

User:Joshua Brewer

2007-05-27T20:14:05Z

Joshua Brewer:

<h1>Joshua Brewer</h1>

<p>A standards geek from San Diego. The Creative Director, the Usability Expert, Information Architect, Graphic Artist, CSS specialist, XHTML semanticist, coffee barista, janitor and bookkeeper for Brewer Deisgn Group (a small [really small] web design studio with an emphasis on usable, standards-based design).</p>
<p>Joshua Brewer also works for a private elementary school where every child has their own laptop. Crazy.</p>

<h2>External Links</h2>
<p>[http://www.brewerdesigngroup.com/contact hCard]</p>
<p>[http://www.brewerdesigngroup.com Professional Site]</p>

hcalendar-examples-in-wild

2007-05-27T20:13:16Z

Joshua Brewer: /* New Examples */

<h1>hCalendar Examples in the wild</h1>

This page is an '''informative''' section of the [[hcalendar|hCalendar specification]].

The following sites have published events using [[hcalendar|hCalendar]], and thus are a great place to start for anyone looking for examples "in the wild" to try parsing, indexing, organizing etc.

If events on your site are marked up with hCalendar, feel free to add it to the top of this list. Please be sure to include at least one URL of a page on your site that includes actual [[hcalendar|hCalendar]] markup. Examples added without the URL of a page with hCalendar markup may be removed.

Want to get started with writing an [[hcalendar|hCalendar]] event? Use the [http://microformats.org/code/hcalendar/creator hCalendar creator] to write up an event and publish it, or follow the [[hcalendar-authoring|hCalendar authoring tips]] to add hCalendar markup to your page of upcoming events or events you mention in blog posts, wikis, etc.

Don't forget that you can add one of our [[buttons#hCalendar|buttons]] to the page, to indicate the presence of hCalendar microformats. For example: http://www.boogdesign.com/images/buttons/microformat_hcalendar.png. If you can link it back to [[hcalendar|hCalendar]] (or even page on your website, about your use of the microformat), so much the better!

==New Examples==

Please add new examples to the '''top''' of this section.
* [http://www.brewerdesigngroup.com/barcamp-hcalendar.html The schedule for BarCamp San Diego] marked up in hCalendar.
* [http://2007.xtech.org/public/schedule/full The schedule for XTech 2007] uses hCalendar.
* [http://www.seemsartless.com seemsArtless daily photoblog] - embeds hCalendar markup for each photo, with GEO markup for photos with significant geographic locations ( such as with [http://www.seemsartless.com/index.php?pic=348 this photo] )
* [http://www.ischool.washington.edu/ Information School of the University of Washington] - now embeds hCalendar markup on all of it's events
** Example here: [http://www.ischool.washington.edu/events/calendar.aspx Events Calendar]
* [http://playinghere.com/ Playing Here] uses hCalendar for live music shows in America, [http://playinghere.com/2007/07/07/CA/Los_Angeles/The_Hollywood_Bowl/ e.g.]
* [http://www.thsh.co.uk THSH] uses iCalendar for events at Town Hall Birmingham and Symphony Hall Birmingham
* [http://www.anfsusa.org/ America-Nepal Friendship Society] uses hCalendar for its program events
** Example here: [http://www.anfsusa.org/news/programs-projects/ ANFS: Programs & Projects]
* [http://www.friendsofthechildrenny.org/ Friends of the Children, New York] - uses hCalendar for upcoming fundraising events
** Example here: [http://www.friendsofthechildrenny.org/events.html Events]
* [http://www.depechemode.de www.depechemode.de] - uses hCalendar for events in the party guide
** Example here: [http://www.depechemode.de/parties/show-party.php?cat=1 Depeche Mode Parties]
* [http://last.fm last.fm] - uses hCalendar on all concert announcements.
** Example here: [http://www.last.fm/event/75615 Rise Against at Arena, Wien]
* [http://www.radiotimes.com Radio Times] - now mark up all their radio and TV listings.
**The hCals on listings are good, but on pages for individual programmes, they have no date/times - for instance [http://www.radiotimes.com/ListingsServlet?event=10&channelId=56&programmeId=57876521&jspLocation=/jsp/prog_details_fullpage.jsp]
** Would benefit from using [[include-pattern]] for channel name in main listings. This would facilitate the writing of parsers to set audio or video recording software. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://nederlandskamerkoor.nl Dutch Chamber Choir] uses hCalendar to notify visitors of their tour schedule.
* [http://cloudislands.com Cloud Islands] uses hCalendar to notify our customers about the conferences we'll be attending.
* [http://www.international.unt.edu UNT International] uses hCalendar for events (see esp. [http://www.international.unt.edu/offices/welcome/events/intlweek/calendar International Week 2007 Event Calendar])
* [http://www.rockisland.com/%7elopezmuseum/index.html The Lopez Island Historical Society and Museum] uses hCalendar for events
* [http://futureofwebapps.com/schedule.html Future of Web Apps London] lists its schedule in hcalendar.
* [http://leicesteryha.org.uk/cgi-bin/leoprog Leicester YHA Group's programme page] uses hCalendar and hCard to mark up forthcoming events and their organisers.
* [http://www.wadip.org.uk/pages/events.php Wadhurst Independent Photography events] lists forthcoming events in hCalendar format.
* [http://xlntads.com/about-xlntads/development-schedule.php XLNTads-development schedule] has their project development schedule timeline marked up in hcal (as well as contacts in hCard)
* [http://www.jaama.co.uk Jaama] have their event details as iCal downloads on their [http://www.jaama.co.uk/HS_Seminars.aspx workshops] page.
* [http://3amproductions.net 3AM Productions] has employee education ([http://3amproductions.net/jason.php Jason], [http://3amproductions.net/gilbert.php Gilbert]) marked up in hCalendar
* The [http://neatta.org New England Antique Tractor & Truck Association] (of all sites) has their 15 upcoming events marked up in hCalendar (as well as contacts in hCard and classifieds in hListing)
* [http://diarised.com Diarised] is a quick and simple online tool to help pick the best time for a meeting, uses hCalendar for meeting information.
* [http://etnies.com/ etnies.com] uses hCalendar on each sports home page ([http://etniesskate.com/ etniesskate.com]) and the [http://etnies.com/extra/calendar/ calendar of events] page.
* [http://www.mdas.org/ La maison des associations de Strasbourg] uses hCalendar on event pages.
* [http://nuggetshoops.com/schedule.php NuggetsHoops] , an NBA fansite, uses hCalendar for each remaining game in the current season.
* [http://wikevent.org WikEvent] aims to make it as easy as possible to put events on the web with semantic markup, including hCalendar for events and hCard for venues and artists.
* [http://fundyfilm.ca/calendar/ The Fundy Film Society] uses hCalendar for their calendar of upcoming film screenings.
* Psychology Press and Routledge's Behavioral Sciences' publishing division have implemented hCalendar on their conferences listings on 17 of their websites (example on the conference listing on their [http://www.clinicalpsychologyarena.com/resources/conferences.asp Clinical Psychology Arena])
* [http://jhtc.org Jewish High Tech Community] uses hCalendar on event pages.
*[http://www.gore-tex.com/remote/Satellite?c=fabrics_content_c&cid=1162322807952&pagename=goretex_en_US%2Ffabrics_content_c%2FKnowWhatsInsideDetail Gore-Tex "Know What's Inside"] tour dates in hCalendar by [http://microformats.org/wiki/User:Csarven csarven]
* [http://finetoothcog.com/site/stolen_bikes Finetoothcog] uses hCalendar to markup when bikes are stolen.
* [https://www.urbanbody.com/information/contact-us Urban Body Men's Clothing] uses hCalendar for business hours and hCard for business locations.
* [http://www.infoiasi.ro The website of the Faculty of Computer Science], "A. I. Cuza" University Iaşi, Romania, uses hCalendar to markup events.
* [http://www.crosbyheritage.co.uk/events/ Colin Crosby Heritage Tours] uses hCalendar to markup events.
* [http://www.facebook.com Facebook] use hCalendar to markup events.
* [http://www.newbury-college.ac.uk/ Newbury College UK] uses a smattering of hCalendar and hCard
* [http://07.pagesd.info/ardeche/agenda.aspx 07.pagesd.info] uses hCalendar and hCard to mark up events of the Ardèche département in France.
* [http://climbtothestars.org Stephanie Booth] announced the [http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2006/09/14/microformats-et-bloggy-friday-doctobre/ Bloggy Friday for October 2006] using hCalendar.
* The [http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/ West Midland Bird Club], in the English Midlands, uses hCal (with nested hCard) on its [http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/diary/ diary of birding events].
* [http://www.comtec-ars.com/press-releases/ ComTec audience response systems' press releases] use hCalendar as a method to organize by title and date.
* [http://webdirections.org/program/ The Web Directions Conference (Sydney Australia)] uses hCalendar for their program. It uses axis and headers for events in a table, and demonstrates how easy it is to make the whole thing downloadable using X2V.
* [http://www.thestreet.org.au/ The Street Theatre (Canberra, Australia)] now uses hCalendar for performances on its [http://www.thestreet.org.au/whats_on.htm What's On] page.
* [http://www.clacksweb.org.uk Clackmannanshire Council] uses hCalendar on its [http://www.clacksweb.org.uk/community/events/ event diary] listing pages and individual event pages.
* [http://www.markthisdate.com/ Calendarportal MarkThisDate.com] now uses hCalendar for all calendars. On our website visitors can add calendars and download calendars to Outlook, Lotus Notes, iCal, Netvibes, 30Boxes, Google Calendar and many others. Over 600 calendars were already uploaded.
* [http://mogue.jp/ mogue] uses hCalendar at [http://mogue.jp/event/1000/ event detail] pages.
* [http://www.gustavus.edu/events/nobelconference/2006/schedule.cfm 2006 Nobel Conference] uses hCalendar for the conference schedule
* [http://www.geekinthepark.co.uk Geek in the Park] uses hCalendar for the event information. -- by [[User:Trovster|trovster]]
* [http://www.besancon.fr/ official site of Besançon (France)] for its events
* [http://2006.dconstruct.org/schedule/ Conference schedule for d.Construct 2006] is published using hCalendar.
* [http://local.yahoo.com Yahoo Local] now supports hCalendar
* We used hcalendar for the [http://www.fuckparade.org/flyer/2006/ F’parade flyer 2006], a counter demonstration to the Love Parade in Berlin, alas the '''Firefox tails extension''' doesn't get a summary when it's an alt-text in an image.
* [http://www.harper-adams.ac.uk/press/events.cfm Harper Adams University College] uses hCalendar to mark up all University events on the Homepage and Events Calendar page.
* [http://www.capital.edu/ Capital University] uses hCalendar on multiple pages to provide feeds of events, relevant to page content
* [http://www.thesession.org/events/ The Session events] uses hCalendar to mark up concerts, festivals and workshops related to Irish traditional music.
* [http://rubyandrails.org/usergroups/newcastle ncl.rb] uses hCalendar to mark up new meetings.
* [http://gross.org.za/calendar GROSSUG Calendar] - Uses hCalendar to mark up meetings and other events.
* [http://www.webanalyticsassociation.org/en/calendarevents/search.asp Web Analytics Association] - hCalendar microformat is in place on all Tendenci sites on the calendar events search page and consolidated list page.
* [http://www.tendenci.com/en/calendarevents/search.asp Tendenci Calendar Events] with hCalendar
* [http://www.argolon.com/2006/04/17/web20-conference-in-dublin/ Web2.0 Conference in Dublin] hCalendar event
* [http://www.meetup.com/ Meetup.com] has marked up [http://www.meetup.com/cities/us/ny/new_york city event calendars], [http://photo.meetup.com/100/events/ group event lists], and [http://www.meetup.com/ signed-in homepages] with hCalendar.
* [http://ukwindsurfing.com/ ukwindsurfing.com] has marked upcoming events with hCalendar, and the [http://ukwindsurfing.com/events/ events page] in a table.
* [http://ocono.com/ ocono.com] has marked up it's "Upcoming Events" list with hCalendar.
* [http://www.austinbloggers.org/ Austin Bloggers] has marked up their "Upcoming Events" box with hCalendar ([http://www.austinbloggers.org/blog/a/001123.html announcement]).
* Ning's cloneable Group app has [[hcalendar|hCalendar]] markup on its [http://group.ning.com/index.php?controller=event&action=list event calendar] and [http://group.ning.com/index.php?controller=event&action=view&id=727220 event detail] pages.
* [http://tantek.com/microformats/2006/03-01-TechPlenAgenda.html Agenda: W3C Technical Plenary Day, March 1 2006] has [[hcard|hCard]] and [[hcalendar|hCalendar]] markup. ([http://www.w3.org/2006/03/01-TechPlenAgenda.html original here]).
* The National Arbor Day Foundation has started using hCalendars for their [http://arborday.org/programs/conferences/communityforestry/index.cfm upcoming] [http://arborday.org/programs/conferences/hazardtrees-treeplanting/ conferences].
* [http://www.stateofflux.com/ State of Flux street art site] has started adding events in hCalendar format
* The [http://barcamp.org/#BarCamps BarCamp home page lists upcoming BarCamps marked up with hCalendar] and even has a "Subscribe..." link.
* [http://www.w3.org/2005/12/allgroupoverview.html 2006 W3C Technical Plenary Week] has marked up the schedule and events for the week with hCalendar.
* [http://www.code4lib.org/2006/schedule code4lib Conference 2006 Schedule] is marked up with hCalendar as [http://www.code4lib.org/node/65 announced on their blog].
* [http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/754 IEEE 754 Working Group] - trying hCalendar for upcoming meetings.
* [http://www.pehuen.org/node/494 Elecciones 2005 Chile] - the first spanish language hCalendar event found in the wild.
* [http://www.codewitch.org/it/2005/11/17/no-creative-commons-no-party/ Giocolando » No Creative Commons? No Party!] is marked up with hCalendar
* [http://www.cmprofessionals.org/events/calendar.html CM Pros Events Calendar] by Bob Doyle
* [http://www.midgard-project.org/community/events/ Midgard CMS Event calendar] - as [http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/new-event-calendar-for-midcom.html blogged by Henri Bergius]
* [http://www.iowamilitaryveteransband.com/schedule/ Iowa Military Veterans Band Schedule] - hCalendar markup [http://weblog.randomchaos.com/archive/2005/10/24/Microformats/ added by Scott Reynen]
* [http://www.funfairgames.net/weblog/posts/00000011.html Upcoming events on Jason A.R. Moody Amusements Weblog] posted by Jason Moody on 15 Oct 2005. [http://www.funfairgames.net/weblog/index.html His weblog] in general has hCalendar events posted inside the blog posts.
* [http://tantek.com/microformats/2005/syndicate/tracks-sessions-schedule.html Syndicate - Tracks & Sessions]
* [http://tantek.com/microformats/2005/web2/program.html Web 2.0 Conference schedule page marked up with hCalendar]
* [http://www.thisiscmon.com/ C'MON] is a rock band from Canada, and their [http://www.thisiscmon.com/shows/ tour dates] have been marked up by [http://www.d2digitalmedia.com/ Ray Dickman] with hCalendar.
* [http://ifreebusy.com/ ifreebusy.com] will display freebusy information using hCalendar. See this [http://ifreebusy.com/neiljensen/freebusy/ example].
* [http://we05.com/ Web Essentials 05] has marked up their [http://we05.com/program.cfm program schedule table with hCalendar], using the 'axis' and 'headers' attributes.
* [http://www.asdvbonaparte.nl/ ASDV Bonaparte] is a Dutch debating society. Their events calendar has been marked up with the hCalendar conventions.
* [http://chocnvodka.blogware.com/blog Suw Charman] has marked up [http://suw.org.uk/archives/category/events/ her events] with hCalendar.
* [http://www.blogbusinesssummit.com/ Blog Business Summit] has published their [http://www.blogbusinesssummit.com/details.htm event details] marked up with hCalendar.
* [http://eventful.com Eventful.com] publishes all events with hCalendar and venues with [[hcard|hCard]]. Took them only 15 minutes to implement both! Their Atom feeds also contain hCalendar/hCard.
* [http://upcoming.org Upcoming.org] publishes all events and lists of events with hCalendar. Took them only an hour to add hCalendar support to the site.
** The dtend values for events with no time specified (like [http://upcoming.org/event/110145/ | Burning Man] are not exclusive. This causes problems when sending the microformats info to places like Google. They do correct the dtend when exporting to Outlook though. They have been made aware of the problem.
* The [http://laughingsquid.com/squidlist/calendar/ Laughing Squid Calendar] events, [http://laughingsquid.com/squidlist/calendar/9949/2005/5/9 e.g. this party], now supports hCalendar.
* [http://paulschreiber.com/ Paul] Schreiber's [http://concerts.shrub.ca/ Sunnyvale House Concerts] site publishes hCalendar event information for upcoming concerts. In addition the [http://concerts.shrub.ca/shows Past Shows] page contains hCalendar events for all past concerts.
* [http://www.complexspiral.com/ Complex Spiral Consulting], both in the "Events" box on left side, and the separate [http://www.complexspiral.com/events/ Events page].
* [http://tantek.com/log Tantek's Thoughts], specifically the "Events" roll in the right-most column.
* [http://suda.co.uk/projects/holidays/ Lesser Known Holidays], a list of holidays on [http://suda.co.uk suda.co.uk] that can be imported via iCal and hCal so you can compare actual transformation versus intended.
* [http://norman.walsh.name/2005/itinerary/ Norm Walsh's travel schedule] use hCalendar as well as GRDDL.
* [http://www.policyawareweb.org/2005/ftf2/paw-mtg Policy Aware Web (PAW) Project Meeting] uses hCalendar to record date-related decisions, and uses a vtodo microformat to record action items.
* The [http://lufgi4.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Laboratory for Dependable Distributed Systems] publishes it's [http://lufgi4.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/cfps list of notable CfPs on dependability and security] with hCalendar-todo elements.
* The [http://laughingsquid.com/laughing-squid-10th-anniversary-party/ Laughing Squid 10th Anniversary Party] has an hcalendar page.
* SPRACI has hcalendar versions of its nightlife/clubbing/gigs/festivals listings for many cities worldwide - eg: [http://www.spraci.com/listhcalendar.php?parea=sydney&category=all Events in Sydney] (check the [http://www.spraci.com/api/ API] pages in the faq section of [http://www.spraci.com/ SPRACI] for more info about the area/city keywords and category tags to use to get data for your city/categories
* WWF-Australia events calendars: [http://wwf.org.au/act/events/ What's on], [http://wwf.org.au/act/volunteer/ Volunteer]
* [http://rubyholic.com rubyholic] uses hCalendar to publish calendars for ruby groups.
* [http://www.bath.ac.uk/whats-on/ University of Bath What's On] uses hCalendar on individual event pages
* The [http://www.kiez-ev.de/ Kiez] is a small cinema and has published its [http://www.kiez-ev.de/programm program] marked up with hCalendar

===World Cup Kick-off===
* [http://www.worldcupkickoff.com/ World Cup KickOff] where you can download and keep all the fixtures you are interested in so you will never miss a single game of the 2006 football World Cup!
** This link was on the [http://www.lifehacker.com/software/sports/world-cup-start-times-for-ical-etc-175393.php Lifehackers site] and made its way to the yahoo news site:

<blockquote>
Mon May 22, 4:00 PM ET
The World Cup, one of the world's most watched sporting events, is almost upon us. If you've ever tried to follow your favorite team through the Cup you know that it can sometimes be difficult to know when they're on. World Cup Kickoff can help.

World Cup KickOff is all you will ever need for knowing all the match details for the upcoming World Cup 2006. Whether you use your mobile phone, MS Outlook, Apple iCal or Mozilla Calendar, you can download and keep all the fixtures you are interested in so you will never miss a single game!

Next tip? We'll show you how to get up at 2 AM to watch your matches. ;0) Thanks to Tom for the tip!
</blockquote>

== Examples with some problems ==
If you find a problem with any example in any other section, please move it here, and note the precise problem and cite the section of the [[hcalendar | hCalendar spec]] that appears to be violated. If the example that was moved here is yours, and you want to improve it, see the [[hcalendar-faq| hCalendar FAQ]], or raise any queries on [[hcalendar-issues| hCalendar issues]] or [[mailing-lists#microformats-discuss|the mailing list]], where people will be happy to help you.

* [http://www.gretchenland.com Gretchen] has their show schedule marked up with hCalendar
** Example here: [http://www.gretchenland.com/shows Upcoming Concert Dates]
**Invalid: <code><nowiki><SPAN title="2007-04-21" class="dtstart">04.21.2007</SPAN></nowiki></code> [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 02:08, 20 Apr 2007 (PDT)
* I'd be happy if some future french Pinko-marketing meetings (CantineCamp) could require the use of hCalendar for listing some informal lunches in Paris. [http://www.wikiservice.at/fractal/wikidev.cgi?FR/PinkoMarketing/CantineCampParis10 CantineCampParis10 is an example] to include a hCalendar + hCard markup on the wiki-page. When converting to vCard, "Mendès" accent is malformed in a french outlook 2003 "address book". I've looked UTF-8 example but could not find any way to correct. Any idea ? -- [[User:ChristopheDucamp|xtof]] 01:09, 26 Mar 2007 (PDT)
* [http://www.joomlamug.com Joomla! Melbourne User Group] uses hCalendar markup for listing of all events.
** No examples on cited page. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 15:06, 31 Jan 2007 (PST)
* [http://www.webfeet.org/events.html Webfeet events] includes hCalendar markup in its aggregated events lists.
** <s>Possibly a case where <nowiki><abbr></nowiki> won't work for dtstart/dtend as there are many events listed under a single date. [[User:Webf|Webf]] 15:19, 15 Jan 2007 (PST)</s>
**Malformed e.g <code><nowiki><span class="dtstart" title="20070120"></span></nowiki></code> [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 15:41, 15 Jan 2007 (PST)
** Continue the discussion under [[hcalendar-issues|hCalendar Issues]] perhaps. [[User:Webf|Webf]] 22:25, 15 Jan 2007 (PST)
* [http://www.theatrestudies.llc.ed.ac.uk/ Theatre Studies: European Theatre] at the University of Edinburgh uses hCalendar to markup news and events on the index page.
**<s>Uses "display:none" on image. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 15:32, 13 Nov 2006 (PST)</s> Removed img tag from hCard
* [http://www.bokle.de/ s'Bokle] is a German music pub. Their events calendar has been marked up with hCalendar.
** improper use of rrule --[[User:RyanKing|RyanKing]] 16:04, 6 Jan 2006 (PST)
* [http://plan9.tryphon.org/nancy/list Plan9] - Uses hCalendar to mark up events !
** <s>dtstart/dtend are implemented on span element [[User:TomArmitage|Tom Armitage]] June 23, 2006</s> --[[User:Tim|Tim]] 13:34, 4 Mar 2007 (PST) Fixed now
* [http://www.socaltech.com socalTECH] is a news and information site. Their front page event listing is marked up with hCalendar.
** dtstart/dtend implemented on span element [[User:TomArmitage|Tom Armitage]] June 23, 2006
* [http://www.multipack.co.uk The Multipack] features a vevent for the next meeting information.
** dtstart/dtend are implemented on em element [[User:TomArmitage|Tom Armitage]] June 23, 2006
* [http://paulschreiber.com/ Paul] Schreiber's [http://iceoasis.shrub.ca/ unofficial schedule site] publishes hCalendar information for upcoming hockey games at [http://www.iceoasis.com/ Ice Oasis]
** dtstart/dtend are implemented on td element [[User:TomArmitage|Tom Armitage]] June 23, 2006

- whilst Tails parses the "title" attribute for dtstart/dtend on <em>any</em> element (does Tails still do this?), that is incorrect. The title attribute only provides semantics for the <code><nowiki><abbr></nowiki></code> element, while for elements in general like <code><nowiki><span></nowiki></code>, only the contents of the element are used. This is a simplification and see [[hcard-parsing|hCard parsing]] for details. Technorati Microformats Search only looks for the title attribute on <code><nowiki><abbr></nowiki></code> tags per the rules from [[hcard-parsing|hCard parsing]] which apply to [[hcalendar-parsing|hCalendar parsing]] as well.

== Reviewed Examples ==
If you have reviewed a New Example (and you are not the author of the example) and believe it to be valid, go ahead and move it here.
* ...

== Related Pages ==
{{hcalendar-related-pages}}

posh

2007-05-07T15:03:22Z

Joshua Brewer: /* Spread POSH */

<h1>Plain Old Semantic HTML (POSH)</h1>

Welcome to the <abbr title="Plain Old Semantic HTML">POSH</abbr> home page.

__TOC__

== Origins ==

The acronym '''POSH''' was coined [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/2007-04-06#T091456 on 6 April 2007] on the microformats IRC channel, by <kwijibo> as a shorthand abbreviation for [[plain-old-semantic-html]]. A discussion on among John Allsopp, Tantek Çelik, Jeremy Keith, and Chris Messina at the [[events/2007-04-18-web-2-expo-dinner|Microformats Dinner 2007 April 18 following Web 2.0 Expo]] reraised the idea of POSH and the importance of promoting the broader goal of POSH, which microformats are built from and are a proper subset of. For more see [[posh#History|History]].

== Why ==

The term [[semantic-html]] is a mouthful, and belies both how simple it is, how well established it is among modern web designers, and the fact that it has benefits far beyond the obvious doing the right thing for the Web by using semantic markup. We need a simple short mnemonic term that captures the essence of the concept, and is easily verbed (to posh, poshify, poshed up).

== What ==

POSH encapsulates the best practices of using [[semantic-html|semantic HTML]] to author web pages. Semantic HTML is the subset of HTML 4.01 (or XHTML 1.0) elements and attributes that are ''[[semantic]]'' rather than ''[[presentational]]''. The best way to learn and understand POSH is to do it. Pick a page on your web site to begin with, and apply the [[posh#The_POSH_Process|POSH Checklist]] to it. Continue with the [[posh#The_POSH_Process|POSH Process]]. Read [[posh#Resources|POSH Resources]] to learn more about POSH.

== The POSH Process ==

What can you do to be POSH and to make your websites POSH?

# Publish POSH content. Read POSH [[posh#Resources|resources]] and make sure your website publishes valid [[semantic-html|semantic (X)HTML]], and uses [[semantic-class-names]] accordingly.
# Spread POSH. Encourage others to be POSH and POSHify their websites by linking to this page.
# Improve POSH. Help us gather resources to enable more people to easily POSHify their websites.

== The POSH Checklist ==

* The first rule of POSH is that you must [http://validator.w3.org validate] your POSH.
* Second, drop the use of TABLEs for purely presentational purposes, spacer GIFs, and [[presentational-html]] in general.
* Next, fix your [http://tantek.com/log/2002/10.html#L20021022t1432 Bed and Breakfast] markup.
* Eliminate [http://tantek.com/log/2002/11.html#L20021128t1352 Anorexic Anchors].
* Use good [[semantic-class-names]].
* ...

== Resources ==

=== POSH Tutorials ===

Step by step tutorials to create POSH content or upgrade existing content to POSH.

* [http://westciv.com/style_master/house/tutorials/quick/validation/index.html Validating your css and html] A simple step by step guide to how and why you should validate your markup
* [http://www.w3schools.com/ W3Schools Online Web Tutorials] has some tutorials that teach POSH concepts and techniques but you have to dig for them from the home page. '''Please add direct links to tutorials rather than just to home pages'''.
* ...

=== POSH Bookmarks ===
* Check out the Ma.gnolia [http://ma.gnolia.com/groups/posh POSH Group]

=== POSH Presentations ===
Presentations which explain and advocate concepts and techniques for utilizing semantic HTML. If/when this section gets too big, we can move it to [[posh-presentations]].
* [http://tantek.com/presentations/2003SXSW/stylesheets.html CSS: Between the Style Sheets by Tantek Çelik (2003-03)], specifically, see slides 3-4,6 starting with "Leaving the [http://tantek.com/log/2002/10.html#L20021022t1432 <B>ed & <BR>eakfast]", and slide 9 "CSS & the Semantic Spectrum" which provides an overview of the semantic spectrum of (X)HTML tags.
* [http://www.tantek.com/presentations/2004etech/realworldsemanticspres.html real world semantics] (2004-02-11)
* [http://tantek.com/presentations/20040928sdforumws/semantic-xhtml.html Semantic XHTML: Can your website be your API? - Using semantic XHTML to show what you mean] (2004-09-28)
* [http://tantek.com/presentations/2005/09/elements-of-xhtml/ The Elements of Meaningful XHTML] (2005-09-29, first version: [http://tantek.com/presentations/2005/03/elementsofxhtml/ 2005-03-13 at SXSW Interactive]).
* ...
* See also more microformats [[presentations]] in general.

=== POSH Books ===
Modern web design books which document good semantic HTML practices.
* <cite>[http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/wdnut3/ http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/covers/0596009879_thumb.gif] [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/wdnut3/ Web Design in a Nutshell, <strong>Third Edition</strong>]</cite> by <span class="vcard"><span class="url fn n"><span class="given-name">Jennifer</span> <span class="additional-name">Niederst</span> <span class="family-name">Robbins</span></span> See [http://jenville.com/ Jenville].</span>
* <cite>[http://microformatique.com/book/ Microformats empowering your markup for Web 2.0]</cite> by <span class="vcard"><span class="url fn n"><span class="given-name">John</span> <span class="family-name">Allsopp</span>.</span></span> Chapter 3 is a detailed and practical overview of the appropriate use of structural, valid and semantic HTML.
* ...

=== POSH Magazines ===
Online (and off) magazines which frequently publish articles about semantic HTML. If/when this section gets too big, we can move it to [[posh-magazines]].

* [http://alistapart.com/ A List Apart: For People Making Websites] (see in particular [http://www.alistapart.com/topics/code/htmlxhtml/ HTML and XHTML Articles])
* [http://www.digital-web.com/ Digital Web Magazine]

=== POSH Blogs ===
Blogs that with some regularity post high quality discussions, insights, and in general have advanced the state of the art of POSH. If/when this section gets too big, we can move it to [[posh-blogs]].

* [http://dbaron.org/log/current David Baron's weblog]
* [http://zeldman.com/ Jeffrey Zeldman Presents]
* [http://meyerweb.com/ meyerweb.com - Eric Meyer]
* [http://microformatique.com/ Microformatique - John Allsopp]
* [http://simplebits.com/ SimpleBits - Dan Cederholm] (see in particular [http://simplebits.com/bits/simplequiz/ SimpleQuiz])
* [http://tantek.com/ Tantek Çelik]
* ...

=== POSH Blog posts ===
Blog posts that provide specific, modern, guidance, techniques and tips for using more and better semantic HTML. This list is ''incomplete''. We know there are lots more blog posts out there that fit the aforementioned description - please add them! If/when this section gets too big, we can move it to [[posh-blog-posts]].

* [http://tantek.com/log/2002/10.html#L20021022t1432 Bed and BReakfast markup (B&BR)] (2002-10-22) - avoiding nonsemantic uses of <nowiki><b>old and <br>eak</nowiki> tags and using <nowiki><h3>adings and <p>aragraphs</nowiki> instead.
* [http://tantek.com/log/2002/11.html#L20021128t1352 <nowiki><A>norexic </A>nchors</nowiki>] (2002-11-28) - use the "id" attribute on existing elements instead of adding empty <code><nowiki><a name="foo"></a></nowiki></code> elements. Use [[rel-bookmark]] for post permalinks within the document.
* [http://tantek.com/log/2002/12.html#L20021216t2238 A Touch of Class] (2002-12-16) - introduction to proper use of the HTML 'class' attribute.
* [http://tantek.com/log/2002/12.html#L20021231t1850 Dive into Semantic MARKup] (2002-12-31)
* [http://tantek.com/log/2003/01.html#L20030104t1249 Comment markup, presentation and plumbing] (2003-01-04) - how to markup a list of comments, including example use of the rare "hreflang" attribute.
* [http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/07/18/competent-classing Competent Classing by Eric Meyer] (2004-07-18)
* [http://tantek.com/log/2004/07.html#d20t2359 More about the 'class' attribute] (2004-07-20)
* [http://www.uie.com/articles/holzschlag_interview/ Web Standards in the Real World: An Interview with Molly Holzschlag] (2005-06-01)
* [http://westciv.typepad.com/dog_or_higher/2005/11/webpatterns_and.html Webpatterns and websemantics] (2005-11-18)
* [http://www.thefutureoftheweb.com/blog/2006/2/writing-semantic-html Writing Semantic HTML by Jesse Skinner] (2006-02-22)
* [http://www.thefutureoftheweb.com/blog/2007/1/who-will-read-your-semantic-html Who will read your Semantic HTML?] by Jesse Skinner (2007-01-04)
* [http://microformatique.com/?page_id=109 Semantics in HTML] by John Allsopp (2007-01-08 - 2007-03-12)
** [http://microformatique.com/?p=83 Part I - Traditional HTML Semantics] (2007-01-08)
** [http://microformatique.com/?p=97 Part II - standardizing vocabularies] (2007-02-20)
** [http://microformatique.com/?p=108 Part III - Towards a semantic web] (2007-03-12)
* [http://microformatique.com/?p=82 Built in HTML semantics] A list of the semantic elements and attributes of HTML by John Allsopp (2007-01-08)
* [http://tantek.com/log/2007/04.html#d20t0823 The Importance of Being POSH] by Tantek Çelik (2007-04-20)
* [http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/04/21/getting-back-to-posh-plain-ol-semantic-html/ Getting back to POSH (Plain ol’ Semantic HTML)] by Chris Messina (2007-04-21)
* [http://friedcellcollective.net/outbreak/2007/04/22/im-posh-are-you/ I’m POSH - are you?] (2007-04-23)
* [http://www.unintentionallyblank.co.uk/2007/04/24/plain-old-semantic-html/ The Internet’s Upper Class Or Why Your Site Should Be POSH] (2007-04-24)
* ...

See [http://technorati.com/search/%22semantic%20HTML%22 more blogs talking about "semantic HTML"] and [http://technorati.com/search/posh+semantic+HTML POSH].

===Other Resources===

* [http://getSemantic.com/wiki/ Get Semantic] (wiki)
* [http://www.netmag.co.uk/podcasts/07-05-03-net.mp3 A talk about POSH] in the .Net magazine podcast episode 8 (56 minutes; 26 Mb. Relevant section 30:10-42:40)

=== POSH Bling for your Blog ===

If you want to improve your existing blog, there are some pretty simple things you can do:

==== WordPress ====

* Use the [http://www.plaintxt.org/themes/sandbox/ Sandbox] or [http://getk2.com K2] themes that already support hAtom and hCard
* Add the [http://redmonk.net/archives/2007/04/18/wordpress-widget-hcard-about-box/ hCard About Widget] to your site

== Spread POSH ==

Now that you've poshified your website(s), what next? Well, help spread POSH to other websites!

* Promote POSH. Make a POSH button (perhaps using semantic HTML and CSS ;) linking to this page and put it on your site, in your blogroll, in your footer, etc. Maybe even come up with a nice POSH button graphic and share it with the microformats community with a liberal license (public domain, CC-by-3.0, MIT, etc.) Like these:
** [http://redmonk.net/archives/2007/04/25/the-new-question/ http://redmonk.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/are_you_posh.png] - [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ CC-by-3.0]
** [http://redmonk.net/archives/2007/04/26/chic/ http://redmonk.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/chic_fancy.png] - [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ CC-by-3.0]
* Tell a friend. Talk to web design friends about POSH and convince and help them to poshify both their personal websites, and the websites they build for others. Blog about your experience with poshification and what steps you went through to poshify your websites. Write a [[posh-testimonial]]!
* Come up with more ideas to help spread POSH. Here are a few.
** Hold a PoshPit - a one or half day marathon session mixing semantic HTML experts with folks who maintain/run web sites in general and see how many websites you can collectively upgrade to POSH during the course of the day.
** ...

== Improve POSH ==

As you read the [[posh#Resources|POSH resources]] documented here, what other POSH resources did you find? Add them to this page.

With your experience with both poshifying your sites and helping others do so, what have you learned? What kind of [[posh-issues|issues]] did you run into? What questions were commonly asked? What do you feel like you need to more easily and quickly help more people poshify their content?

== History ==

A brief history of references to "POSH" in this context and "plain old semantic HTML".

=== plain old semantic HTML ===

The earliest references to <strong>"plain old semantic HTML"</strong> that have been found so far are:
* [http://groups.google.com/group/comp.infosystems.www.authoring.site-design/msg/2373e9043c08cba4 1998-05-01: Kirrily 'Skud' Robert on comp.infosystems.www.authoring.site-design] - "The site is implemented in HTML 4.0 Transitional with style sheets; this means that anyone with an older browser won't get presentational markup, just <strong>plain old semantic HTML</strong>. "
* [http://www.highrankings.com/advisor/tables-seo/ 2006-09-21 Drew's comment by on "Tables and SEO"]: "I’d say it’s well worth it for a variety of reasons to only use tables when you’re presenting tabular data, and use <strong>plain old semantic HTML</strong> to mark up your content in all other cases." (retrieved by [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 08:20, 20 Apr 2007 (PDT))
If you can find earlier references, please ''add'' them and include a brief quotation of the context of the reference to "plain old semantic HTML".

posh

2007-04-22T15:27:26Z

Joshua Brewer: /* Spread POSH */

<h1>Plain Old Semantic HTML (POSH)</h1>

Welcome to the <abbr title="Plain Old Semantic HTML">POSH</abbr> home page.

__TOC__

== Origins ==

The acronym '''POSH''' was coined [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/2007-04-06#T091456 on 6 April 2007] on the microformats IRC channel, by <kwijibo> as a shorthand abbreviation for [[plain-old-semantic-html]]. A discussion on among John Allsopp, Tantek Çelik, Jeremy Keith, and Chris Messina at the [[events/2007-04-18-web-2-expo-dinner|Microformats Dinner 2007 April 18 following Web 2.0 Expo]] reraised the idea of POSH and the importance of promoting the broader goal of POSH, which microformats are built from and are a proper subset of. For more see [[posh#History|History]].

== Why ==

The term [[semantic-html]] is a mouthful, and belies both how simple it is, how well established it is among modern web designers, and the fact that it has benefits far beyond the obvious doing the right thing for the Web by using semantic markup. We need a simple short mnemonic term that captures the essence of the concept, and is easily verbed (to posh, poshify, poshed up).

== The POSH Process ==

What can you do to be POSH and to make your websites POSH?

# Publish POSH content. Read POSH [[posh#Resources|resources]] and make sure your website publishes valid [[semantic-html|semantic (X)HTML]], and uses [[semantic-class-names]] accordingly.
# Spread POSH. Encourage others to be POSH and POSHify their websites by linking to this page.
# Improve POSH. Help us gather resources to enable more people to easily POSHify their websites.

== The POSH Checklist ==

* The first rule of POSH is that you must [http://validator.w3.org validate] your POSH.
* Second, drop the use of TABLEs for purely presentational purposes, spacer GIFs, and [[presentational-html]] in general.
* Next, fix your [http://tantek.com/log/2002/10.html#L20021022t1432 Bed and Breakfast] markup.
* Eliminate [http://tantek.com/log/2002/11.html#L20021128t1352 Anorexic Anchors].
* Use good [[semantic-class-names]].
* ...

== Resources ==

=== POSH Tutorials ===

Step by step tutorials to create POSH content or upgrade existing content to POSH.

* [http://westciv.com/style_master/house/tutorials/quick/validation/index.html Validating your css and html] A simple step by step guide to how and why you should validate your markup
* ...

=== POSH Bookmarks ===
* Check out the Ma.gnolia [http://ma.gnolia.com/groups/posh POSH Group]

=== POSH Presentations ===
Presentations which explain and advocate concepts and techniques for utilizing semantic HTML. If/when this section gets too big, we can move it to [[posh-presentations]].
* [http://tantek.com/presentations/2003SXSW/stylesheets.html CSS: Between the Style Sheets by Tantek Çelik (2003)], specifically, see slides 3-4,6 starting with "Leaving the [http://tantek.com/log/2002/10.html#L20021022t1432 <B>ed & <BR>eakfast]", and slide 9 "CSS & the Semantic Spectrum".
* ...

=== POSH Books ===
Modern web design books which document good semantic HTML practices.
* <cite>[http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/wdnut3/ http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/covers/0596009879_thumb.gif] [http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/wdnut3/ Web Design in a Nutshell, <strong>Third Edition</strong>]</cite> by <span class="vcard"><span class="url fn n"><span class="given-name">Jennifer</span> <span class="additional-name">Niederst</span> <span class="family-name">Robbins</span></span> See [http://jenville.com/ Jenville].</span>
* <cite>[http://microformatique.com/book/ Microformats empowering your markup for Web 2.0]</cite> by <span class="vcard"><span class="url fn n"><span class="given-name">John</span> <span class="family-name">Allsopp</span>.</span></span> Chapter 3 is a detailed and practical overview of the appropriate use of structural, valid and semantic HTML.
* ...

=== POSH Magazines ===
Online (and off) magazines which frequently publish articles about semantic HTML. If/when this section gets too big, we can move it to [[posh-magazines]].

* [http://alistapart.com/ A List Apart: For People Making Websites]
* [http://www.digital-web.com/ Digital Web Magazine] (see in particular [http://www.alistapart.com/topics/code/htmlxhtml/ HTML and XHTML Articles])

=== POSH Blogs ===
Blogs that with some regularity post high quality discussions, insights, and in general have advanced the state of the art of POSH. If/when this section gets too big, we can move it to [[posh-blogs]].

* [http://dbaron.org/log/current David Baron's weblog]
* [http://zeldman.com/ Jeffrey Zeldman Presents]
* [http://meyerweb.com/ meyerweb.com - Eric Meyer]
* [http://microformatique.com/ Microformatique - John Allsopp]
* [http://simplebits.com/ SimpleBits - Dan Cederholm] (see in particular [http://simplebits.com/bits/simplequiz/ SimpleQuiz])
* [http://tantek.com/ Tantek Çelik]
* ...

=== POSH Blog posts ===
Blog posts that provide specific, modern, guidance, techniques and tips for using more and better semantic HTML. If/when this section gets too big, we can move it to [[posh-blog-posts]].

* [http://tantek.com/log/2002/10.html#L20021022t1432 Bed and BReakfast markup (B&BR)] (2002-10-22) - avoiding nonsemantic uses of <nowiki><b>old and <br>eak</nowiki> tags and using <nowiki><h3>adings and <p>aragraphs</nowiki> instead.
* [http://tantek.com/log/2002/11.html#L20021128t1352 <nowiki><A>norexic </A>nchors</nowiki>] (2002-11-28) - use the "id" attribute on existing elements instead of adding empty <code><nowiki><a name="foo"></a></nowiki></code> elements. Use [[rel-bookmark]] for post permalinks within the document.
* [http://tantek.com/log/2002/12.html#L20021216t2238 A Touch of Class] (2002-12-16) - introduction to proper use of the HTML 'class' attribute.
* [http://tantek.com/log/2002/12.html#L20021231t1850 Dive into Semantic MARKup] (2002-12-31)
* [http://tantek.com/log/2003/01.html#L20030104t1249 Comment markup, presentation and plumbing] (2003-01-04) - how to markup a list of comments, including example use of the rare "hreflang" attribute.
* [http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/07/18/competent-classing Competent Classing by Eric Meyer] (2004-07-18)
* [http://tantek.com/log/2004/07.html#d20t2359 More about the 'class' attribute] (2004-07-20)
* [http://www.uie.com/articles/holzschlag_interview/ Web Standards in the Real World: An Interview with Molly Holzschlag] (2005-06-01)
* [http://westciv.typepad.com/dog_or_higher/2005/11/webpatterns_and.html Webpatterns and websemantics] (2005-11-18)
* [http://www.thefutureoftheweb.com/blog/2006/2/writing-semantic-html Writing Semantic HTML by Jesse Skinner] (2006-02-22)
* [http://www.thefutureoftheweb.com/blog/2007/1/who-will-read-your-semantic-html Who will read your Semantic HTML?] by Jesse Skinner (2007-01-04)
* [http://microformatique.com/?page_id=109 Semantics in HTML] by John Allsopp (2007-01-08 - 2007-03-12)
** [http://microformatique.com/?p=83 Part I - Traditional HTML Semantics] (2007-01-08)
** [http://microformatique.com/?p=97 Part II - standardizing vocabularies] (2007-02-20)
** [http://microformatique.com/?p=108 Part III - Towards a semantic web] (2007-03-12)
* [http://tantek.com/log/2007/04.html#d20t0823 The Importance of Being POSH] by Tantek Çelik (2007-04-20)
* [http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/04/21/getting-back-to-posh-plain-ol-semantic-html/ Getting back to POSH (Plain ol’ Semantic HTML)] by Chris Messina (2007-04-21)
* ...

See [http://technorati.com/search/%22semantic%20HTML%22 more blogs talking about "semantic HTML"] and [http://technorati.com/search/posh+semantic+HTML POSH].

=== POSH Bling for your Blog ===

If you want to improve your existing blog, there are some pretty simple things you can do:

==== WordPress ====

* Use the [http://www.plaintxt.org/themes/sandbox/ Sandbox] or [http://getk2.com K2] themes that already support hAtom and hCard
* Add the [http://redmonk.net/archives/2007/04/18/wordpress-widget-hcard-about-box/ hCard About Widget] to your site

== Spread POSH ==

Now that you've poshified your website(s), what next? Well, help spread POSH to other websites!

* Promote POSH. Make a POSH button (perhaps using semantic HTML and CSS ;) linking to this page and put it on your site, in your blogroll, in your footer, etc. Maybe even come up with a nice POSH button graphic and share it with the microformats community with a liberal license (public domain, CC-by-3.0, MIT, etc.) Like this one: http://www.brewerdesigngroup.com/posh.png - [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ CC-by-3.0]

* Tell a friend. Talk to web design friends about POSH and convince and help them to poshify both their personal websites, and the websites they build for others. Blog about your experience with poshification and what steps you went through to poshify your websites.
* Come up with more ideas to help spread POSH. Here are a few.
** Hold a PoshPit - a one or half day marathon session mixing semantic HTML experts with folks who maintain/run web sites in general and see how many websites you can collectively upgrade to POSH during the course of the day.
** ...

== Improve POSH ==

As you read the [[posh#Resources|POSH resources]] documented here, what other POSH resources did you find? Add them to this page.

With your experience with both poshifying your sites and helping others do so, what have you learned? What kind of [[posh-issues|issues]] did you run into? What questions were commonly asked? What do you feel like you need to more easily and quickly help more people poshify their content?

== History ==

A brief history of references to "POSH" in this context and "plain old semantic HTML".

=== plain old semantic HTML ===

The earliest references to <strong>"plain old semantic HTML"</strong> that have been found so far are:
* [http://groups.google.com/group/comp.infosystems.www.authoring.site-design/msg/2373e9043c08cba4 1998-05-01: Kirrily 'Skud' Robert on comp.infosystems.www.authoring.site-design] - "The site is implemented in HTML 4.0 Transitional with style sheets; this means that anyone with an older browser won't get presentational markup, just <strong>plain old semantic HTML</strong>. "
* [http://www.highrankings.com/advisor/tables-seo/ 2006-09-21 Drew's comment by on "Tables and SEO"]: "I’d say it’s well worth it for a variety of reasons to only use tables when you’re presenting tabular data, and use <strong>plain old semantic HTML</strong> to mark up your content in all other cases." (retrieved by [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 08:20, 20 Apr 2007 (PDT))
If you can find earlier references, please ''add'' them and include a brief quotation of the context of the reference to "plain old semantic HTML".

posh

2007-04-21T01:22:02Z

Joshua Brewer: /* Spread POSH */

User:Joshua Brewer

2006-09-21T16:58:53Z

Joshua Brewer:

<h1>Joshua Brewer</h1>

<p>A standards geek from San Diego. The Creative Director, the Usability Expert, Information Architect, Graphic Artist, CSS specialist, XHTML semanticist, coffee barista, janitor and bookkeeper for Brewer Deisgn Group (a small [really small] web design studio with an emphasis on usable, standards-based design).</p>
<p>Joshua Brewer also works for a private elementary school where every child has their own laptop. Crazy.</p>
<p>He is the Systems Admin and Webmaster (such a funny word - so 1998).</p>

<h2>External Links</h2>
<p>[http://www.brewerdesigngroup.com/contact hCard]</p>
<p>[http://www.brewerdesigngroup.com Professional Site]</p>

User:Joshua Brewer

2006-09-21T16:58:35Z

Joshua Brewer:

<h1>Joshua Brewer</h1>

<p>A standards geek from San Diego. The Creative Director, the Usability Expert, Information Architect, Graphic Artist, CSS specialist, XHTML semanticist, coffee barista, janitor and bookkeeper for Brewer Deisgn Group (a small [really small] web design studio with an emphasis on usable, standards-based design).</p>
<p>Joshua Brewer also works for a private elementary school where every child has their own laptop. Crazy.</p>
<p>He is the Systems Admin and Webmaster (such a funny word - so 1998).</p>

<h2>External Links</h2>
[http://www.brewerdesigngroup.com/contact hCard]
[http://www.brewerdesigngroup.com Professional Site]

User:Joshua Brewer

2006-09-21T16:58:04Z

Joshua Brewer:

<h1>Joshua Brewer</h1>

<p>A standards geek from San Diego. The Creative Director, the Usability Expert, Information Architect, Graphic Artist, CSS specialist, XHTML semanticist, coffee barista, janitor and bookkeeper for Brewer Deisgn Group (a small [really small] web design studio with an emphasis on usable, standards-based design).</p>
<p>Joshua Brewer also works for a private elementary school where every child has their own laptop. Crazy.</p>
<p>He is the Systems Admin and Webmaster (such a funny word - so 1998).</p>

<h2>External Links</h2>
[www.brewerdesigngroup.com/contact hCard]
[www.brewerdesigngroup.com Professional Site]

User:Joshua Brewer

2006-09-21T16:57:01Z

Joshua Brewer:

<h1>Joshua Brewer</h1>

<p>A standards geek from San Diego. The Creative Director, the Usability Expert, Information Architect, Graphic Artist, CSS specialist, XHTML semanticist, coffee barista, janitor and bookkeeper for Brewer Deisgn Group (a small [really small] web design studio with an emphasis on usable, standards-based design).</p>
<p>Joshua Brewer also works for a private elementary school where every child has their own laptop. Crazy.</p>
<p>He is the Systems Admin and Webmaster (such a funny word - so 1998).</p>

<h2>External Links</h2>
<a href="http://www.brewerdesigngroup.com/contact" title="hCard">hCard</a>
<a href="http://www.brewerdesigngroup.com">Professional Site</a>

User:Joshua Brewer

2006-09-21T16:55:26Z

Joshua Brewer:

<h1>Joshua Brewer</h1>
<p>Joshua Brewer is a standards geek from San Diego who works for a private elementary school where every child has their own laptop. Crazy. He is the Systems Admin and Webmaster (such a funny word - so 1998).</p>

<p>Joshua Brewer is also the Creative Director, the Usability Expert, Information Architect, Graphic Artist, CSS specialist, XHTML semanticist, coffee barista, janitor and bookkeeper for Brewer Deisgn Group (a small [really small] web design studio with an emphasis on usable, standards-based design).</p>

<h2>External Links</h2>
<a href="http://www.brewerdesigngroup.com/contact" title="hCard">hCard</a>
<a href="http://www.brewerdesigngroup.com">Professional Site</a>

User:Joshua Brewer

2006-09-21T16:50:43Z

Joshua Brewer:

'''Joshua Brewer'''

Joshua Brewer is a standards geek from San Diego who works for a private elementary school where every child has their own laptop. Crazy. He is the Systems Admin and Webmaster (such a funny word - so 1998).

Joshua Brewer is also the Creative Director, the Usability Expert, Information Architect, Graphic Artist, CSS specialist, XHTML semanticist, coffee barista, janitor and bookkeeper for Brewer Deisgn Group (a small [really small] web design studio with an emphasis on usable, standards-based design).

User:Joshua Brewer

2006-09-21T16:49:16Z

Joshua Brewer:

Joshua Brewer is a standards geek from San Diego who works for a private elementary school where every child has their own laptop. Crazy. He is the Systems Admin and Webmaster (such a funny word - so 1998).

Joshua Brewer is also the Creative Director, the Usability Expert, Information Architect, Graphic Artist, CSS specialist, XHTML semanticist, coffee barista, janitor and bookkeeper for Brewer Deisgn Group (a small [really small] web design studio with an emphasis on usable, standards-based design).

User:Joshua Brewer

2006-09-21T16:48:48Z

Joshua Brewer:

--[[User:Joshua Brewer|Joshua Brewer]] 09:48, 21 Sep 2006 (PDT)Joshua Brewer is a standards geek from San Diego who works for a private elementary school where every child has their own laptop. Crazy. He is the Systems Admin and Webmaster (such a funny word - so 1998).

Joshua Brewer is also the Creative Director, the Usability Expert, Information Architect, Graphic Artist, CSS specialist, XHTML semanticist, coffee barista, janitor and bookkeeper for Brewer Deisgn Group (a small [really small] web design studio with an emphasis on usable, standards-based design).

User:Joshua Brewer

2006-09-21T16:48:10Z

Joshua Brewer: