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= Microformats Wiki =

'''Please read [[how-to-play]] before making any edits.'''

'''Please read [[process]] before proposing any new microformats.'''

== Introduction ==

[[what-are-microformats|What are microformats]]? And [[what-can-you-do-with-microformats|what can you do with them]]? See the [http://microformats.org/about/ about page] for an overview, and the [[introduction]] page for more info. Recent [[press]], [[presentations]], [[podcasts]], and [[screencasts]] are also a good place for some background reading/listening. Frequently asked questions are answered in the [[faq]]. Want something or want to contribute? Help with things [[to-do]]. Want to learn more in person? Check out microformats [[events]].

One popular definition from our [http://microformats.org/discuss/ mailing list] (see also: [[mailing-lists]]) is "simple conventions for embedding semantics in HTML to enable decentralized development." More precisely, microformats can be defined as:
:simple conventions
:for embedding semantic markup
::for a specific problem domain
:in human-readable (X)HTML/XML documents, Atom/RSS feeds, and "plain" XML
::that normalize existing content usage patterns
::using brief, descriptive class names
::often based on existing interoperable standards
:to enable decentralized development
::of resources, tools, and services

"Or do you just use your browser to browse? That's so 20th century." -- [http://diveintomark.org Mark Pilgrim]

== Specifications ==
[[microformats|Microformats]] open standards specifications (see also: [[implementations]])
* [[hcalendar|hCalendar]]
* [[hcard|hCard]]
* [[rel-license]]
* [[rel-nofollow]]
* [[rel-tag]]
* [[vote-links|VoteLinks]]
* [http://gmpg.org/xfn/ XFN] (see also: [[xfn-implementations]])
* [http://gmpg.org/xmdp/ XMDP]
* [[xoxo|XOXO]]

== Drafts ==
* [[adr|adr]]
* [[geo|geo]]
* [[hatom|hAtom]] {{NewMarker}}
* [[hresume|hResume]] {{NewMarker}}
* [[hreview|hReview]]
* [[rel-directory]]
* [[rel-enclosure]]
* [[rel-home]]
* [[relpayment-research | rel-payment]]
* [[robots-exclusion|Robots Exclusion]]
* [[xfolk|xFolk]]

== Design Patterns ==

Design patterns give microformat authors a vocabulary for expressing their ideas consistently with what has already been done. ''If you're tempted to try your hand at writing a microformat '''[[process|read this first]]'''!''

* [[abbr-design-pattern]]
* [[class-design-pattern]]
* [[datetime-design-pattern]]
* [[existing-classes|class names defined across all microformats]]
* [[include-pattern]], [[include-pattern-feedback]] {{NewMarker}}
* [[rel-design-pattern]]

== Exploratory discussions ==
Research and analysis of real-world [[examples]], existing formats, and brainstorming to motivate the microformat.
*[[attention]]
* blog description [[blog-description-examples|examples]]
* blog info [[blog-info-examples|examples]]
* blog post [[blog-post-examples|examples]], [[blog-post-formats|formats]], and [[blog-post-brainstorming|brainstorming]] (yielded the [[hatom|hAtom]] draft)
* book [[book-examples|examples]], [[book-formats|formats]], and [[book-brainstorming|brainstorming]]
* chat [[chat-examples|examples]], [[chat-formats|formats]], and [[chat-brainstorming|brainstorming]]
* citation [[citation|effort]], [[citation-examples|examples]], [[citation-formats|formats]], [[citation-brainstorming|brainstorming]], and [[citation-faq|FAQ]]
* comment [[comment-problem|problem]], [[comment-examples|examples]], and [[comments-formats|formats]] (Some stuff needs to be extracted from [[comments-formats]])
* directions [[directions-examples|examples]] {{NewMarker}}
* directory inclusion [[directory-inclusion-examples|examples]], [[directory-inclusion-formats|formats]]. (see also [[rel-directory]])
* distributed conversation [[distributed-conversation|overview]], [[distributed-conversation-brainstorming|brainstorming]], [[distributed-conversation-examples|examples]], and [[distributed-conversation-formats|formats]]
* forms [[forms-examples|examples]]
* genealogy [[genealogy-formats|examples]]
* hash [[hash-examples|examples]]
* last modified [[last-modified-examples|examples]], [[last-modified-formats|formats]], and [[last-modified-brainstorming|brainstorming]]
* hListing [[hlisting-proposal|proposal]], and [[hlisting-feedback|feedback]] {{NewMarker}}
** Also, listing [[listing-examples|examples]], [[listing-formats|formats]], and [[listing-brainstorming|brainstorming]]
* location [[location-formats|formats]]. (see also [[adr]] and [[geo]])
* media info [[media-info-examples|examples]]
* meeting minutes [[meeting-minutes-examples|examples]], [[meeting-minutes-formats|formats]], and [[meeting-minutes-brainstorming|brainstorming]]
* [[mfo-examples|MFO examples]]
* music [[music-examples|examples]]
* photo note [[photo-note-examples|examples]]
* recipe [[recipe-examples|examples]]
* rel-product [[rel-product-brainstorming|brainstorming]]
* requirements testing [[requirements-testing|overview]], and [[requirements-testing-examples|examples]]
* [[rest-examples|REST examples]]
* resume [[resume-brainstorming|brainstorming]], and [[resume-formats|formats]]
* review [[review-examples|examples]], and [[review-formats|formats]] (yielded the [[hreview|hReview]] draft)
* search results [[search-results-example|example]]
* show [[show-brainstorming|brainstorming]]
* showroll [[showroll-brainstorming|brainstorming]]
* table [[table-examples|examples]]
* tagspeak [[tagspeak-examples|examples]]
* transit table [[transit-table-examples|examples]]
* [[uid]]
* widget [[widget-examples|examples]], and [[widget-brainstorming|brainstorming]]
* [[wiki-formats|wiki formats]]
* work of art [[work-of-art|overview]], [[workofart-examples|examples]], [[workofart-formats|formats]], and [[workofart-brainstorming|brainstorming]] {{NewMarker}}
*[[xmdp-brainstorming|XMDP brainstorming]] (see also [[xmdp-faq]])

== Examples ==
* [[examples]]
* [[zen-garden]]

== Tools & Test Cases & Additional Research ==

The first place to look for examples, code, and test cases is in the pages for each individual microformat. There are only a few cross-cutting tools and services that need to process more than one microformat. This section is intended for editors, parsers, validators, test cases, and other information relevant across multiple microformats.

*[[parsing-microformats]]
*[[selected-test-cases-from-the-web]]
*[http://hg.microformats.org/ Source code repository]
*[[vcard-implementations]], [[vcard-errata]]
*[[icalendar-implementations]]
*[[faqs-for-rdf]]
*[[why-are-content-standards-hard]]

== shared work areas ==
* [[buttons]] {{NewMarker}}
* [[demo]] - a page with links for quickly demonstrating microformats working in practice.
* [[events]] {{NewMarker}}
* [[to-do]]
* [[user-interface]]
* [[marked-for-deletion]]

== microformats wiki in other languages ==

You may read and edit microformats articles in many other languages:

* languages with over 50 articles
** [[Main_Page-fr|Français (French)]] {{NewMarker-fr}}
* languages with over 2 articles
** [[Main_Page-ja|日本語 (Japanese)]]
** [[Main_Page-es|Español (Spanish)]]
* languages with 2 articles
** [[Main_Page-de|Deutsch (German)]]

==== microformats translations elsewhere ====
These are offsite pages/sites with translations about microformats. If you are working on one of these, please consider translating the main microformats website!
* [http://mikroformate.pbwiki.com/ Deutsch (German) mikroformate.pbwiki.com] {{NewMarker}}

=== Start a microformats wiki in another language ===

Don't see the language you want? Help translate the microformats wiki into another language!

We're still figuring this out.

For now, see the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Multilingual_coordination Wikipedia page on Multilingual coordination], and [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/How_to_start_a_new_Wikipedia How to start a new Wikipedia] for some good general tips, advice, and community conventions.

You may want to start with the list of [[stable-pages]], which are pages that are relatively stable, and have only minimal/editorial changes, which makes them much easier to keep in sync with the English versions, by using the [[Special:Watchlist|my watchlist]] feature (use it to watch the pages you've translated for changes).

Page naming: for the translated version of a page, use the same name for the page, and simply add the RFC 3066 language identifier code as a dash suffix. E.g. for the French version, [[Main_Page]] becomes [[Main_Page-fr]], and [[how-to-play]] becomes [[how-to-play-fr]].

==== more languages folks want to see ====

* Chinese: 微格式 (Microformats) (see [http://msittig.blogspot.com/2005/11/since-i-translated-schedule-of.html source of translation])

zen-garden

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PriitLaes: /* Open questions */

= Microformats Zen Garden =

A [http://www.csszengarden.com/ CSS Zen Garden] for microformats is essential for popular adoption. Getting something that "looks cool" for "free" should be a key attraction for convincing authors to "steal" microformatted data and cut'n'paste it into their own sites, and for that matter, to reuse style sheets for microformatted data as well.

Developers of microformat-savvy tools would also benefit from common idioms for presenting and editing microformatted data (for example, consider the impact of Apple's Address Book person-layout/edit view on many other Mac applications).

Unlike the original Zen Garden, Javascript may also prove essential to unlocking designers' flexibility: people have expressed interest in hooking hCards to maps, or [http://web.mit.edu/glasser/www/JSCalendar/ this example of a renderer for hCalendar] [http://web.mit.edu/glasser/www/JSCalendar/hcalendar.html grid views].

== Interested parties ==

People who would be willing to spend time on the garden.

* [[User:RobertBachmann|Robert Bachmann]]
** could act as a point person
** writing the sample document
** providing styles (but he's not a good designer)

* [[User:Scott Reynen|Scott Reynen]]
** could make the backend submission and switcher functionality

* Malarkey (Andy Clarke http://www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk)
** Designer
** I agreed to help by contributing design themes after talking with Kevin and Tantek

* [[User:PhilipAshlock|Philip Ashlock]] (http://www.philaestheta.com)
** Designer/Developer
** I agree to help by developing interface design - clean attractive implementations
** I have a server and domain names to contribute
** I have live data to implement with a university website and a record label website
** My university will essentially be paying me for development work
** Suggestions for where efforts should be focused are most appreciated

* [[User:ChrisMessina|Chris Messina]]
** Designer
** Drupal Theme developer
** I've done a few implementations in experimental Drupal and WordPress themes... would like to do more.

* [[User:Phae|Frances Berriman]]
** New Media Developer (CSS/XHTML primarily, but also an accessibility auditor)
** I offer to contribute time to ensuring development is accessible and adheres to WCAG.
** I offer to help develop initial CSS templates to kick-start the showcase.
** Will also be involved with any promotional or editorial aspects, if necessary.

== Planning ==
=== Open questions ===
* What license should be used? --[[User:RobertBachmann|Robert Bachmann]] 10:34, 21 Oct 2005 (PDT)
** My personal favorites are http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/ and http://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain/ --[[User:RobertBachmann|Robert Bachmann]] 14:03, 21 Oct 2005 (PDT)
* Should the example page contain examples for all microformats or should there be one example page per microformat? --[[User:RobertBachmann|Robert Bachmann]] 08:57, 24 Oct 2005 (PDT)
** I think the example pages should mirror real world examples as much as practical. In some cases, microformats will be mixed, and in others they will occur independently, and it would be nice to have an environment in which to test microformat applications on such a diversity of example data. On the other hand, I can see some benefit in keeping it simple to encourage use. --[[User:ScottReynen|Scott Reynen]] 12:44, 26 Oct 2005 (CST)
*** Unsure of status of this project (last edit 2005? Most interested though!) but think given recent development of [[hatom|hAtom]] and the constant growth and popularity of "blogs" as a whole, a blog page would be ideal. Perhaps a standard blog layout, containing author information (to utilise [[hcard|hCard]] and [[hcalendar|hCalendar]]) and many others as they are developed. It would also give the design plenty of space to write about what Microformats are all about, and show them in a really useful real world example that 99% of the viewers will find interesting (I hope). [[User:Phae|Frances Berriman]] 16 June 2006
**** After further discussion, iteration one of the project will use [[hcard|hCard]], [[hreview|hReview]] and [[hcalendar|hCalendar]] as example blog posts with [[hatom|hAtom]]. Later versions will use [[hatom|hAtom]] with other popular microformats once they are stable and released. [[User:Phae|Frances Berriman]]
* Discussion list: Use the microformats discussion list or use an extra list? (-[[User:RobertBachmann|Robert Bachmann]])
** I think a secondary list for this project would be beneficial. A digested version of current development work/status could be sent to the MF discussion lists periodically so that we can gain additional input from the MF group at large, without watering down the usual discussions that occur there. (-[[User:Phae|Frances Berriman]])

* Storing files: Subversion or Mercurial? (-[[User:RobertBachmann|Robert Bachmann]])
** git or (+1 Subversion)(-[[User:PriitLaes|Priit Laes]])
* Project name: Perhaps we need an other name? See <http://mezzoblue.com/archives/2006/02/22/homage_and_o/>. (-[[User:RobertBachmann|Robert Bachmann]])
** Having read that article, I think a new name would be beneficial. Perhaps we could discuss it with the Zen Garden creators first, and get their feedback? In the interim, it can be refered to as the MF Zen Garden, until a bright spark thinks of something better! (-[[User:Phae|Frances Berriman]])
** What about <em>Microformats Playground</em>? (suggested by Scott Reynen) (-[[User:RobertBachmann|Robert Bachmann]])
*** +1 [[User:RobertBachmann|Robert Bachmann]]
*** +1 [[User:Phae|Frances Berriman]]

=== Back end prototype ===
Coded by Scott Reynen

* Demo: http://www.randomchaos.com/mfzen/
* Source: http://www.randomchaos.com/source/

irc

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PriitLaes: /* People on irc */

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= Microformats IRC =

We have an IRC channel, [irc://irc.freenode.net#microformats #microformats on the freenode network].

There's typically someone there at any point during the day, though there isn't always active discussion. Sometimes, though this is the best place to discuss issues that need lots of back and forth discussion.

== People on irc ==
A list of IRC regulars and their normal timezones. (winter/summer)

* [[User:Adam Craven|AdamCraven]] (+0000)
* [[User:Amette|amette]] (+1000)
* [[User:B.K._DeLong|bkdelong]] (-0500/-0400)
* [[User:Ben Ward|BenWard]] (+0000)
* [[User:BenjaminCarlyle|BenjaminCarlyle]] (+1000)
* [[User:Boneill|boneill]] (+0000)
* [[User:Brian|briansuda]] (-0600/-0500)
* [[User:ColinDDevroe|cdevroe]] (-0500/-0600)
* [[User:Cgriego|cgriego]] (-0600/-0500)
* [[User:ChrisCasciano|pnhChris]] (-0500/-0400)
* [[User:ChrisMessina|factoryjoe]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:ChristopherStJohn|cks]] (-0600/-0500)
* [[User:DanC|DanC]] (-0600/-0500)
** office hours: Wednesday afternoons, America/Chicago time
* [[User:Dave Cardwell|davecardwell]] (+0000)
* [[User:DimitriGlazkov|dglazkov]] (-0600/-0500)
* [[User:DrewMcLellan|drewinthehead]] (+0000/+0100)
* [[User:EdwardOConnor|hober]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Enric|enric]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Evan|evanpro]] (-0500)
* [[User:Fil|Fil]] (+0200)
* [[User:Grantbow|Grantbow]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Hlb|hlb]] (+0800-0700)
* [[User:IanHickson|Hixie]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Izo|IZO]]
* [[User:JoeGregorio|jcgregorio]]
* [[User:Jonathan_Arkell|jonnay]] (-0700/0600)
* [[User:Keri Henare|kerihenare]] (+1200)
* [http://epeus.blogspot.com/ KevinMarks] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Mark Mansour|Mark Mansour]] (+1100)
* [[User:neuro|neuro`]]
* [[User:PriitLaes|plaes]] (+0200/+0300)
* [[User:Remi|Remi]] (-0500/-0400)
* [[User:RobertBachmann|RobertBachmann]] (+0100/+0200)
** Office hours: <del>Wednesday, 18:00-20:00 UTC</del> (Currently no office hours)
* [[User:RyanKing|kingryan]] (-0800/-0700)
** [http://theryanking.com/blog/archives/2006/04/19/office-hours/ Office hours]: Wednesday, 21:00 UTC
* [[User:Dana Benson|Snowden]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Steve Ganz|SteveGanz]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Dan Kubb|dkubb]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Ed Summers|edsu]] (-0500/-0400)
* [[User:Smackman|Steve Farrell]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Enric|Enric]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Charlvn|Charl]] (+0200/+0200)
* [[User:MarkoMrdjenovic|friedcell]] (+0100/+0200)
* [[User:Vant|vant]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:IwaiMasaharu|iwaim]] (+0900)

=== Greetings ===
To display a brief description of who you are each time you join the channel, you can create a definition for your username. To do so pass the <tt>?def</tt> command using something like the following convention (be brief):

<code>?def jdoe is John Doe and can be found online at <nowiki>http://www.jdoewebsite.com</nowiki></code>

More information about using JiBot commands can be found on the [http://joiwiki.ito.com/joiwiki/index.cgi?jibot jibot website]

=== bots ===

* [[mfbot]]
* [[mflogbot]]
* [http://joiwiki.ito.com/joiwiki/index.cgi?jibot jibot]

== Logs ==

Available here: http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/

Atom feed of logs available here: http://microformat.makedatamakesense.com/log_feed/

== IRC meetups ==

The idea of having IRC meetups (that is, a set time for meeting on IRC) has been suggested by [[User:RyanKing|Ryan King]], as it appears to work well for the WordPress community and may help us from time-to-time. As of yet, there are no plans to have meetups, though.