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		<id>https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=distributed-conversation-brainstorming&amp;diff=861</id>
		<title>distributed-conversation-brainstorming</title>
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		<updated>2005-07-13T17:09:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Skeltoac: /* rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; / rev=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;=citeRel brainstorming=&lt;br /&gt;
Various parties have proposed microformats related to citations and distributed conversations. Ryan King and Eran Globen started with hVia (which became citeVia and later citeRel :-)). You can see the conversation in these blog posts:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
People already cite their sources in their blog posts and it would be great (and shouldn't be too difficult) to track that information. In that vein, read [http://theryanking.com/blog/archives/2005/05/06/hvia/ this post] which covers the initial thinking on the topic. ([http://theryanking.com/blog/archives/2005/05/09/citevia/ This] was a followup post).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Later, [http://hellononline.com Eran] [http://hellonline.com/blog/?p=18 expanded the idea] to encompass not just via citations, but replies and updates as well. Follow up post [http://hellonline.com/blog/?p=19 here].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Problem==&lt;br /&gt;
The basic idea we're trying to solve here is the tracking of distributed conversation- more specifically, distributed conversation between blog posts– the scope is intentionally limited here, though other aspects of distributed conversation are certainly important and related.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A smaller portion of the problem is in identifying the most authoritative sources in a web-wide thread. In researching anything, the ability to identify a primary source is invaluable. Adding this kind of ordinality would add value to any list of related links such as a tag page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Citing (quoting or refering to as an authoritative source or precedent) and hat-tipping (giving credit to a non-primary source for calling attention to a primary [authoritative] source) are certainly two different animals. Common etiquette suggests use of anchor tags because they can be actuated by the user.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I dug around at [http://www.w3.org WC3] and found rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; is ''already defined'' in the [http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-xhtml2-20050527/mod-metaAttributes.html XHTML Metainformation Attributes Module]. In the [http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-xhtml2-20050527/mod-hyperAttributes.html XHTML 2.0 Hypertext Attribute Collection], href and cite attributes are defined and may coexist but they behave differently: The href attribute &amp;quot;specifies a URI that is actuated when the element is activated.&amp;quot; For the cite attribute, &amp;quot;User Agents MUST provide a means for the user to actuate the link.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Whereas authors in general like their work to be cited with hyperlinks, and whereas users can be counted upon to cite primary and non-primary sources simultaneously without differentiating them, and whereas the only difference between a primary citation and a non-primary citation is the potential for skipped vias when considered across a distributed conversation, and whereas the use of existing specifications is preferred to the creation of redundant systems, and whereas increasing attributes is less severe than increasing nested elements, I propose that good definition and use of rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; will resolve the problem of crediting sources via anchors. &amp;lt;cite&amp;gt;Andy Skelton&amp;lt;/cite&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I see the conclusion as quite the opposite.  Because rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; *is* defined in XHTML2 drafts, and microformats allow you add rel values to HTML4/XHTML1 *now*, adopting the same convention makes a lot of sense.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::If anything it bolsters the case for rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; (as opposed to some other value like rel=&amp;quot;source&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::In a relCite microformat, you would define the &amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; value by normatively referencing XHTML2, rather than redefining it (even copy/pasting the definition from the XHTML2 spec -- though one could do so &amp;quot;informatively&amp;quot;), just like in [[hcard|hCard]], we define the properties by normatively referencing vCard. &amp;lt;cite&amp;gt;Tantek&amp;lt;/cite&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::[http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-xhtml2-20050527/ XHTML 2.0] states that it &amp;quot;should in no way be considered stable, and should not be normatively referenced for any purposes whatsoever.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;cite&amp;gt;Andy Skelton&amp;lt;/cite&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Nested cite/anchor tags ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; / rev=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This could be a way to indicate a citation of linked content, typically web pages (or portions thereof, like blog posts) but inclusive of any kind of resource with a URL. &amp;quot;Cite&amp;quot; is defined as &amp;quot;to quote or refer to as a precedent or authority.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
By adding &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; to a hyperlink, an author could indicate that the destination of that hyperlink is an authoritative source or a precedent to the current page. rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; would be used whether an author cites by quotation:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;Our liberty depends on the freedom of the&lt;br /&gt;
press, and that cannot be limited without being lost.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;a href=&amp;quot;http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson&amp;quot; rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Thomas Jefferson&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
or by reference only:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;a href=&amp;quot;http://example.com/joeschmoe/article/99/&amp;quot; rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Joe Schmoe's latest rant&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt; is wrong, wrong, wrong...&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; hyperlinks are intended to be visible links on pages and posts.  Note that other markup may be used to indicate citation:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;blockquote cite=&amp;quot;http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be&lt;br /&gt;
limited without being lost.&amp;lt;cite&amp;gt;Thomas Jefferson&amp;lt;/cite&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
but User Agents are not compelled to expose a link to the cited resource. Hyperlinks are preferred by most authors because they afford the user easy access to the cited resource.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Additional Resources==&lt;br /&gt;
* Thread Description Language - TDL is an RDF vocabulary for describing threaded discussions, such as Usenet, weblogs, bulletin boards, and e-mail conversations.&lt;br /&gt;
** http://www.eyrie.org/~zednenem/2002/web-threads/&lt;br /&gt;
** http://www.eyrie.org/~zednenem/2002/wtprofile/&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Skeltoac</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Skeltoac&amp;diff=31388</id>
		<title>User:Skeltoac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Skeltoac&amp;diff=31388"/>
		<updated>2005-07-13T16:42:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Skeltoac: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;===Andy Skelton===&lt;br /&gt;
I blog at [http://www.skeltoac.com skeltoac.com] and I maintain a WordPress blog directory called [http://blogsoftheday.com Blogs Of The Day].&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Skeltoac</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Skeltoac/RelCite&amp;diff=31384</id>
		<title>User:Skeltoac/RelCite</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Skeltoac/RelCite&amp;diff=31384"/>
		<updated>2005-07-13T16:41:16Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Skeltoac: /* rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Skeltoac</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=distributed-conversation-brainstorming&amp;diff=860</id>
		<title>distributed-conversation-brainstorming</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=distributed-conversation-brainstorming&amp;diff=860"/>
		<updated>2005-07-13T13:28:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Skeltoac: /* citeRel brainstorming */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;=citeRel brainstorming=&lt;br /&gt;
Various parties have proposed microformats related to citations and distributed conversations. Ryan King and Eran Globen started with hVia (which became citeVia and later citeRel :-)). You can see the conversation in these blog posts:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
People already cite their sources in their blog posts and it would be great (and shouldn't be too difficult) to track that information. In that vein, read [http://theryanking.com/blog/archives/2005/05/06/hvia/ this post] which covers the initial thinking on the topic. ([http://theryanking.com/blog/archives/2005/05/09/citevia/ This] was a followup post).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Later, [http://hellononline.com Eran] [http://hellonline.com/blog/?p=18 expanded the idea] to encompass not just via citations, but replies and updates as well. Follow up post [http://hellonline.com/blog/?p=19 here].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Problem==&lt;br /&gt;
The basic idea we're trying to solve here is the tracking of distributed conversation- more specifically, distributed conversation between blog posts– the scope is intentionally limited here, though other aspects of distributed conversation are certainly important and related.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A smaller portion of the problem is in identifying the most authoritative sources in a web-wide thread. In researching anything, the ability to identify a primary source is invaluable. Adding this kind of ordinality would add value to any list of related links such as a tag page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Citing (quoting or refering to as an authoritative source or precedent) and hat-tipping (giving credit to a non-primary source for calling attention to a primary [authoritative] source) are certainly two different animals. Common etiquette suggests use of anchor tags because they can be actuated by the user.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I dug around at [http://www.w3.org WC3] and found rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; is ''already defined'' in the [http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-xhtml2-20050527/mod-metaAttributes.html XHTML Metainformation Attributes Module]. In the [http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-xhtml2-20050527/mod-hyperAttributes.html XHTML 2.0 Hypertext Attribute Collection], href and cite attributes are defined and may coexist but they behave differently: The href attribute &amp;quot;specifies a URI that is actuated when the element is activated.&amp;quot; For the cite attribute, &amp;quot;User Agents MUST provide a means for the user to actuate the link.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Whereas authors in general like their work to be cited with hyperlinks, and whereas users can be counted upon to cite primary and non-primary sources simultaneously without differentiating them, and whereas the only difference between a primary citation and a non-primary citation is the potential for skipped vias when considered across a distributed conversation, and whereas the use of existing specifications is preferred to the creation of redundant systems, and whereas increasing attributes is less severe than increasing nested elements, I propose that good definition and use of rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; will resolve the problem of crediting sources via anchors. &amp;lt;cite&amp;gt;Andy Skelton&amp;lt;/cite&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I see the conclusion as quite the opposite.  Because rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; *is* defined in XHTML2 drafts, and microformats allow you add rel values to HTML4/XHTML1 *now*, adopting the same convention makes a lot of sense.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::If anything it bolsters the case for rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; (as opposed to some other value like rel=&amp;quot;source&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::In a relCite microformat, you would define the &amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; value by normatively referencing XHTML2, rather than redefining it (even copy/pasting the definition from the XHTML2 spec -- though one could do so &amp;quot;informatively&amp;quot;), just like in [[hcard|hCard]], we define the properties by normatively referencing vCard. &amp;lt;cite&amp;gt;Tantek&amp;lt;/cite&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::[http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-xhtml2-20050527/ XHTML 2.0] states that it &amp;quot;should in no way be considered stable, and should not be normatively referenced for any purposes whatsoever.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;cite&amp;gt;Andy Skelton&amp;lt;/cite&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Nested cite/anchor tags ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; / rev=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Additional Resources==&lt;br /&gt;
* Thread Description Language - TDL is an RDF vocabulary for describing threaded discussions, such as Usenet, weblogs, bulletin boards, and e-mail conversations.&lt;br /&gt;
** http://www.eyrie.org/~zednenem/2002/web-threads/&lt;br /&gt;
** http://www.eyrie.org/~zednenem/2002/wtprofile/&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Skeltoac</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Skeltoac&amp;diff=859</id>
		<title>User:Skeltoac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Skeltoac&amp;diff=859"/>
		<updated>2005-07-12T19:19:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Skeltoac: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;===Andy Skelton===&lt;br /&gt;
I blog at [http://www.skeltoac.com skeltoac.com] and I maintain a WordPress blog directory called [http://blogsoftheday.com Blogs Of The Day].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Currently working on [[User:Skeltoac/RelCite|RelCite]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Skeltoac</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Skeltoac&amp;diff=845</id>
		<title>User:Skeltoac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Skeltoac&amp;diff=845"/>
		<updated>2005-07-12T19:19:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Skeltoac: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;===Andy Skelton===&lt;br /&gt;
I blog at [http://www.skeltoac.com skeltoac.com] and I maintain a WordPress blog directory called [http://blogsoftheday.com Blogs Of The Day].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Currently working on [[User:Skeltoac/rel-cite|RelCite]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Skeltoac</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Skeltoac&amp;diff=844</id>
		<title>User:Skeltoac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Skeltoac&amp;diff=844"/>
		<updated>2005-07-12T19:18:16Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Skeltoac: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;===Andy Skelton===&lt;br /&gt;
I blog at [http://www.skeltoac.com skeltoac.com] and I maintain a WordPress blog directory called [http://blogsoftheday.com Blogs Of The Day].&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Skeltoac</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Skeltoac/RelCite&amp;diff=858</id>
		<title>User:Skeltoac/RelCite</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Skeltoac/RelCite&amp;diff=858"/>
		<updated>2005-07-12T18:46:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Skeltoac: /* Implementations */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;= rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; =&lt;br /&gt;
__TOC__&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Draft Specification 2005-07-12 ==&lt;br /&gt;
=== Editor/Author ===&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.skeltoac.com/ Andy Skelton]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Concept ===&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://theryanking.com/blog Ryan King]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://hellonline.com/ Eran Globen]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.skeltoac.com/ Andy Skelton]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Copyright ===&lt;br /&gt;
{{MicroFormatCopyrightStatement2005}}&lt;br /&gt;
=== Patents ===&lt;br /&gt;
{{MicroFormatPatentStatement}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Abstract ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RelCite is one of several [[elemental-microformat|elemental microformats]]. By adding &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; to a hyperlink, a page indicates that the destination of that hyperlink is an authoritative source or a precedent to the current page. RelCite may be used whether an author cites by quotation:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;Our liberty depends on the freedom of the&lt;br /&gt;
press, and that cannot be limited without being lost.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;a href=&amp;quot;http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson&amp;quot; rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Thomas Jefferson&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
or by reference only:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;a href=&amp;quot;http://example.com/joeschmoe/article/99/&amp;quot; rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Joe Schmoe's latest rant&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt; is wrong, wrong, wrong...&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RelCite is also reversible, i.e. the syntax &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rev=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; indicates that the ''current page'' is an authoritative source or a precedent to the ''destination page''. This syntax may be useful when an author wishes link to off-site discussions of his own content.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The linked page MUST exist, and it is the linked page, rather than the link text that defines the citation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RelCite is fully compatible with other microformats such as [[rel-nofollow|RelNoFollow]] and [[vote-links|VoteLinks]] to indicate a very specific relationship: &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel=&amp;quot;cite vote-against nofollow&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Scope ==&lt;br /&gt;
rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; is specifically designed for &amp;quot;citing&amp;quot; content, typically web pages (or portions thereof, like blog posts). &amp;quot;Cite&amp;quot; is defined as &amp;quot;to quote or refer to as a precedent or authority.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== XMDP profile ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;dl class=&amp;quot;profile&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;dt id=&amp;quot;rel&amp;quot;&amp;gt;rel&amp;lt;/dt&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;dd&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;a rel=&amp;quot;help&amp;quot; href=&amp;quot;http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/links.html#adef-rel&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
     HTML4 definition of the 'rel' attribute.&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
   Here is an additional value.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;dl&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;dt id=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;gt;cite&amp;lt;/dt&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;dd&amp;gt;Indicates that the referring page quotes or refers to &lt;br /&gt;
       the referred page as a precedent or authority.&amp;lt;/dd&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/dl&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;/dd&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;dt id=&amp;quot;rev&amp;quot;&amp;gt;rev&amp;lt;/dt&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;dd&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;a rel=&amp;quot;help&amp;quot; href=&amp;quot;http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/links.html#adef-rev&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
     HTML4 definition of the 'rev' attribute.&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
   Here is an additional value.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;dl&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;dt id=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;gt;cite&amp;lt;/dt&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;dd&amp;gt;Indicates that the referred page quotes or refers to &lt;br /&gt;
       the referring page as a precedent or authority.&amp;lt;/dd&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/dl&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;/dd&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/dl&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Citations As Interactive Metadata ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; hyperlinks are intended to be visible links on pages and posts.  Note that other markup may be used to indicate citation:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;blockquote cite=&amp;quot;http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be&lt;br /&gt;
limited without being lost.&amp;lt;cite&amp;gt;Thomas Jefferson&amp;lt;/cite&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
but User Agents are not compelled to expose a link to the cited resource. Hyperlinks are preferred because they afford the user easy access to the cited resource.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Implementations ==&lt;br /&gt;
A theoretical implementation of RelCite could enable users and machines to determine the degree of separation of a given resource from a Primary resource in a &amp;quot;citation chain&amp;quot; where &amp;quot;Primary&amp;quot; denotes the first, original or most authoritative online resource for a unit of information or a discussion. By following &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; links one can expect to converge on topical Primary sources; contratriwise, following &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rev=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; links should bring one to resources of increasingly distant relation to one Primary while exposing other citation chains in the process.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It would be advantageous for implementations of automated linking systems such as Trackback and Pingback to generate &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rev=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; links on cited resources.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Normative References ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://gmpg.org/xmdp/ XMDP]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Skeltoac</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Skeltoac/RelCite&amp;diff=843</id>
		<title>User:Skeltoac/RelCite</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Skeltoac/RelCite&amp;diff=843"/>
		<updated>2005-07-12T18:44:38Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Skeltoac: /* Implementations */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;= rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; =&lt;br /&gt;
__TOC__&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Draft Specification 2005-07-12 ==&lt;br /&gt;
=== Editor/Author ===&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.skeltoac.com/ Andy Skelton]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Concept ===&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://theryanking.com/blog Ryan King]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://hellonline.com/ Eran Globen]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.skeltoac.com/ Andy Skelton]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Copyright ===&lt;br /&gt;
{{MicroFormatCopyrightStatement2005}}&lt;br /&gt;
=== Patents ===&lt;br /&gt;
{{MicroFormatPatentStatement}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Abstract ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RelCite is one of several [[elemental-microformat|elemental microformats]]. By adding &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; to a hyperlink, a page indicates that the destination of that hyperlink is an authoritative source or a precedent to the current page. RelCite may be used whether an author cites by quotation:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;Our liberty depends on the freedom of the&lt;br /&gt;
press, and that cannot be limited without being lost.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;a href=&amp;quot;http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson&amp;quot; rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Thomas Jefferson&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
or by reference only:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;a href=&amp;quot;http://example.com/joeschmoe/article/99/&amp;quot; rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Joe Schmoe's latest rant&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt; is wrong, wrong, wrong...&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RelCite is also reversible, i.e. the syntax &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rev=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; indicates that the ''current page'' is an authoritative source or a precedent to the ''destination page''. This syntax may be useful when an author wishes link to off-site discussions of his own content.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The linked page MUST exist, and it is the linked page, rather than the link text that defines the citation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RelCite is fully compatible with other microformats such as [[rel-nofollow|RelNoFollow]] and [[vote-links|VoteLinks]] to indicate a very specific relationship: &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel=&amp;quot;cite vote-against nofollow&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Scope ==&lt;br /&gt;
rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; is specifically designed for &amp;quot;citing&amp;quot; content, typically web pages (or portions thereof, like blog posts). &amp;quot;Cite&amp;quot; is defined as &amp;quot;to quote or refer to as a precedent or authority.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== XMDP profile ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;dl class=&amp;quot;profile&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;dt id=&amp;quot;rel&amp;quot;&amp;gt;rel&amp;lt;/dt&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;dd&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;a rel=&amp;quot;help&amp;quot; href=&amp;quot;http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/links.html#adef-rel&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
     HTML4 definition of the 'rel' attribute.&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
   Here is an additional value.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;dl&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;dt id=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;gt;cite&amp;lt;/dt&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;dd&amp;gt;Indicates that the referring page quotes or refers to &lt;br /&gt;
       the referred page as a precedent or authority.&amp;lt;/dd&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/dl&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;/dd&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;dt id=&amp;quot;rev&amp;quot;&amp;gt;rev&amp;lt;/dt&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;dd&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;a rel=&amp;quot;help&amp;quot; href=&amp;quot;http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/links.html#adef-rev&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
     HTML4 definition of the 'rev' attribute.&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
   Here is an additional value.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;dl&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;dt id=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;gt;cite&amp;lt;/dt&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;dd&amp;gt;Indicates that the referred page quotes or refers to &lt;br /&gt;
       the referring page as a precedent or authority.&amp;lt;/dd&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/dl&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;/dd&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/dl&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Citations As Interactive Metadata ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; hyperlinks are intended to be visible links on pages and posts.  Note that other markup may be used to indicate citation:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;blockquote cite=&amp;quot;http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be&lt;br /&gt;
limited without being lost.&amp;lt;cite&amp;gt;Thomas Jefferson&amp;lt;/cite&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
but User Agents are not compelled to expose a link to the cited resource. Hyperlinks are preferred because they afford the user easy access to the cited resource.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Implementations ==&lt;br /&gt;
A theoretical implementation of RelCite could enable users and machines to determine the degree of separation of a given resource from a Primary resource in a &amp;quot;citation chain&amp;quot; where &amp;quot;Primary&amp;quot; denotes the first, original or most authoritative online resource for a unit of information or a discussion. By following &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; links one can expect to converge on topical Primary sources; contratriwise, following &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rev=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; links should bring one to resources of increasingly distant relation to one Primary while exposing other citation chains in the process.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It would be advantageous for implementations of automated linking systems such as Trackback and Pingback to generate &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rev=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; links on the target documents.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Normative References ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://gmpg.org/xmdp/ XMDP]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Skeltoac</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Skeltoac/RelCite&amp;diff=842</id>
		<title>User:Skeltoac/RelCite</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Skeltoac/RelCite&amp;diff=842"/>
		<updated>2005-07-12T18:41:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Skeltoac: /* rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;= rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; =&lt;br /&gt;
__TOC__&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Draft Specification 2005-07-12 ==&lt;br /&gt;
=== Editor/Author ===&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.skeltoac.com/ Andy Skelton]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Concept ===&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://theryanking.com/blog Ryan King]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://hellonline.com/ Eran Globen]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.skeltoac.com/ Andy Skelton]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Copyright ===&lt;br /&gt;
{{MicroFormatCopyrightStatement2005}}&lt;br /&gt;
=== Patents ===&lt;br /&gt;
{{MicroFormatPatentStatement}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Abstract ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RelCite is one of several [[elemental-microformat|elemental microformats]]. By adding &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; to a hyperlink, a page indicates that the destination of that hyperlink is an authoritative source or a precedent to the current page. RelCite may be used whether an author cites by quotation:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;Our liberty depends on the freedom of the&lt;br /&gt;
press, and that cannot be limited without being lost.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;a href=&amp;quot;http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson&amp;quot; rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Thomas Jefferson&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
or by reference only:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;a href=&amp;quot;http://example.com/joeschmoe/article/99/&amp;quot; rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Joe Schmoe's latest rant&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt; is wrong, wrong, wrong...&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RelCite is also reversible, i.e. the syntax &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rev=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; indicates that the ''current page'' is an authoritative source or a precedent to the ''destination page''. This syntax may be useful when an author wishes link to off-site discussions of his own content.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The linked page MUST exist, and it is the linked page, rather than the link text that defines the citation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RelCite is fully compatible with other microformats such as [[rel-nofollow|RelNoFollow]] and [[vote-links|VoteLinks]] to indicate a very specific relationship: &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel=&amp;quot;cite vote-against nofollow&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Scope ==&lt;br /&gt;
rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; is specifically designed for &amp;quot;citing&amp;quot; content, typically web pages (or portions thereof, like blog posts). &amp;quot;Cite&amp;quot; is defined as &amp;quot;to quote or refer to as a precedent or authority.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== XMDP profile ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;dl class=&amp;quot;profile&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;dt id=&amp;quot;rel&amp;quot;&amp;gt;rel&amp;lt;/dt&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;dd&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;a rel=&amp;quot;help&amp;quot; href=&amp;quot;http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/links.html#adef-rel&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
     HTML4 definition of the 'rel' attribute.&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
   Here is an additional value.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;dl&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;dt id=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;gt;cite&amp;lt;/dt&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;dd&amp;gt;Indicates that the referring page quotes or refers to &lt;br /&gt;
       the referred page as a precedent or authority.&amp;lt;/dd&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/dl&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;/dd&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;dt id=&amp;quot;rev&amp;quot;&amp;gt;rev&amp;lt;/dt&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;dd&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;a rel=&amp;quot;help&amp;quot; href=&amp;quot;http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/links.html#adef-rev&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
     HTML4 definition of the 'rev' attribute.&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
   Here is an additional value.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;dl&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;dt id=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;gt;cite&amp;lt;/dt&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;dd&amp;gt;Indicates that the referred page quotes or refers to &lt;br /&gt;
       the referring page as a precedent or authority.&amp;lt;/dd&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/dl&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;/dd&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/dl&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Citations As Interactive Metadata ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; hyperlinks are intended to be visible links on pages and posts.  Note that other markup may be used to indicate citation:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;blockquote cite=&amp;quot;http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be&lt;br /&gt;
limited without being lost.&amp;lt;cite&amp;gt;Thomas Jefferson&amp;lt;/cite&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
but User Agents are not compelled to expose a link to the cited resource. Hyperlinks are preferred because they afford the user easy access to the cited resource.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Implementations ==&lt;br /&gt;
A theoretical implementation of RelCite could enable users and machines to determine the degree of separation of a given resource from a Primary resource in a &amp;quot;citation chain&amp;quot; where &amp;quot;Primary&amp;quot; denotes the first, original or most authoritative online resource for a unit of information or a discussion. By following &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; links one can expect to converge on topical Primary sources; contratriwise, following &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rev=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; links should bring one to resources of increasingly distant relation to one Primary while exposing other citation chains in the process.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Normative References ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://gmpg.org/xmdp/ XMDP]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Skeltoac</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Skeltoac/RelCite&amp;diff=841</id>
		<title>User:Skeltoac/RelCite</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Skeltoac/RelCite&amp;diff=841"/>
		<updated>2005-07-12T18:18:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Skeltoac: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;= rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; =&lt;br /&gt;
__TOC__&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Draft Specification 2005-07-12 ==&lt;br /&gt;
=== Editor/Author ===&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.skeltoac.com/ Andy Skelton]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Concept ===&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://theryanking.com/blog Ryan King]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://hellonline.com/ Eran Globen]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.skeltoac.com/ Andy Skelton]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Copyright ===&lt;br /&gt;
{{MicroFormatCopyrightStatement2005}}&lt;br /&gt;
=== Patents ===&lt;br /&gt;
{{MicroFormatPatentStatement}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Abstract ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RelCite is one of several [[elemental-microformat|elemental microformats]]. By adding &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; to a hyperlink, a page indicates that the destination of that hyperlink is an authoritative source or a precedent to the current page. RelCite may be used whether an author cites by quotation:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;Our liberty depends on the freedom of the&lt;br /&gt;
press, and that cannot be limited without being lost.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;a href=&amp;quot;http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Thomas Jefferson&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
or by reference only:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;a href=&amp;quot;http://someblog.com/article/99/&amp;quot; rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Joe Schmoe's latest rant&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt; is wrong, wrong, wrong...&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RelCite is also reversible, i.e. the syntax &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rev=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; indicates that the ''current page'' is an authoritative source or a precedent to the ''destination page''. This syntax may be useful when an author wishes link to off-site discussions of his own content.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The linked page MUST exist, and it is the linked page, rather than the link text that defines the citation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RelCite is fully compatible with other microformats such as [[rel-nofollow|RelNoFollow]] and [[vote-links|VoteLinks]] to indicate a very specific relationship: &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel=&amp;quot;cite vote-against nofollow&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Scope ==&lt;br /&gt;
rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; is specifically designed for &amp;quot;citing&amp;quot; content, typically web pages (or portions thereof, like blog posts). &amp;quot;Cite&amp;quot; is defined as &amp;quot;to quote or refer to as a precedent or authority.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== XMDP profile ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;dl class=&amp;quot;profile&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;dt id=&amp;quot;rel&amp;quot;&amp;gt;rel&amp;lt;/dt&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;dd&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;a rel=&amp;quot;help&amp;quot; href=&amp;quot;http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/links.html#adef-rel&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
     HTML4 definition of the 'rel' attribute.&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
   Here is an additional value.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;dl&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;dt id=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;gt;cite&amp;lt;/dt&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;dd&amp;gt;Indicates that the referring page quotes or refers to &lt;br /&gt;
       the referred page as a precedent or authority.&amp;lt;/dd&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/dl&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;/dd&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;dt id=&amp;quot;rev&amp;quot;&amp;gt;rev&amp;lt;/dt&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;dd&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;a rel=&amp;quot;help&amp;quot; href=&amp;quot;http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/links.html#adef-rev&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
     HTML4 definition of the 'rev' attribute.&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
   Here is an additional value.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;dl&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;dt id=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;gt;cite&amp;lt;/dt&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;lt;dd&amp;gt;Indicates that the referred page quotes or refers to &lt;br /&gt;
       the referring page as a precedent or authority.&amp;lt;/dd&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;/dl&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;/dd&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/dl&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Citations Are Visible Metadata ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; hyperlinks are intended to be visible links on pages and posts.  Note that other markup may be used to indicate citation:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;blockquote cite=&amp;quot;http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be&lt;br /&gt;
limited without being lost.&amp;lt;cite&amp;gt;Thomas Jefferson&amp;lt;/cite&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
but User Agents are not compelled to expose a link to the cited resource. Hyperlinks are preferred because they afford the user easy access to the cited resource.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Normative References ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://gmpg.org/xmdp/ XMDP]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Related Work ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://technorati.com/help/tags.html Using Technorati Tags]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://developers.technorati.com/wiki/attentionxml Attention.XML]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/BunnysTechnoratiTags &amp;quot;Tag plugin for wordpress&amp;quot;]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Main Page</title>
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		<updated>2005-07-12T02:55:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Skeltoac: /* Exploratory discussions */&lt;/p&gt;
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= Microformats Wiki =&lt;br /&gt;
Welcome to the microformats wiki. There's a lot going on around here, but feel free to jump in and offer your assistance.&lt;br /&gt;
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== But First... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Please read [[how-to-play]] before making any edits.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Please read [[process]] before proposing any new microformats.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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== Introduction ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What are microformats? See the [http://microformats.org/about/ about page] for an overview, and the [[introduction]] page for more info.  Recent [[presentations]] are also a good place for some background reading.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Specifications ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[microformats|Microformats]] open standards specifications:&lt;br /&gt;
* [[hcalendar|hCalendar]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[hcard|hCard]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[rel-license|RelLicense]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[rel-nofollow|RelNoFollow]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[rel-tag|RelTag]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[vote-links|VoteLinks]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://gmpg.org/xfn/ XFN]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://gmpg.org/xmdp/ XMDP]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[xoxo|XOXO]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Drafts ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[hreview|hReview]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[robots-exclusion|Robots Exclusion]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[rel-enclosure]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[xfolk]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Exploratory discussions ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[comments-formats]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[media-metadata-examples]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[location-formats]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[blog-post-formats]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[wiki-formats]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[other-formats]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[citation-brainstorming]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=distributed-conversation-brainstorming&amp;diff=838</id>
		<title>distributed-conversation-brainstorming</title>
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		<updated>2005-07-12T02:54:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Skeltoac: /* Problem */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;=citeRel brainstorming=&lt;br /&gt;
Various parties have proposed microformats related to citations and distributed conversations. Ryan King and Eran Globen started with hVia (which became citeVia and later citeRel :-)). You can see the conversation in these blog posts:&lt;br /&gt;
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People already cite their sources in their blog posts and it would be great (and shouldn't be too difficult) to track that information. In that vein, read [http://theryanking.com/blog/archives/2005/05/06/hvia/ this post] which covers the initial thinking on the topic. ([http://theryanking.com/blog/archives/2005/05/09/citevia/ This] was a followup post).&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, [http://hellononline.com Eran] [http://hellonline.com/blog/?p=18 expanded the idea] to encompass not just via citations, but replies and updates as well. Follow up post [http://hellonline.com/blog/?p=19 here].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Problem==&lt;br /&gt;
The basic idea we're trying to solve here is the tracking of distributed conversation- more specifically, distributed conversation between blog posts– the scope is intentionally limited here, though other aspects of distributed conversation are certainly important and related.&lt;br /&gt;
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:A smaller portion of the problem is in finding the most authoritative sources in a web-wide thread. In researching anything, the ability to identify a primary source is invaluable. Adding this kind of ordinality would add value to any list of related links such as a tag page.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Citing (quoting as an authoritative source) and hat-tipping (giving credit to a non-primary source for calling attention to a primary [authoritative] source) are certainly two different animals. Common etiquette suggests use of anchor tags because they can be actuated by the user.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I dug around at [http://www.w3.org WC3] and found rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; is ''already defined'' in the [http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-hyperAttributes.html XHTML 2.0 Hypertext Attribute Collection]. Also from that collection, href and cite attributes are defined and may coexist but they behave differently: The href attribute &amp;quot;specifies a URI that is actuated when the element is activated.&amp;quot; For the cite attribute, &amp;quot;User Agents MUST provide a means for the user to actuate the link.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Whereas authors in general like their work to be cited with hyperlinks, and whereas users can be counted upon to cite primary and non-primary sources simultaneously without differentiating them, and whereas the only difference between a primary citation and a non-primary citation is the potential for skipped vias when considered across a distributed conversation, and whereas the use of existing specifications is preferred to the creation of redundant systems, and whereas increasing attributes is less severe than increasing nested elements, I propose that good definition and use of rel=&amp;quot;cite&amp;quot; will resolve the problem of crediting sources via anchors. &amp;lt;cite&amp;gt;Andy Skelton&amp;lt;/cite&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Additional Resources==&lt;br /&gt;
* Thread Description Language - TDL is an RDF vocabulary for describing threaded discussions, such as Usenet, weblogs, bulletin boards, and e-mail conversations.&lt;br /&gt;
** http://www.eyrie.org/~zednenem/2002/web-threads/&lt;br /&gt;
** http://www.eyrie.org/~zednenem/2002/wtprofile/&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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