blog-post-brainstorming - Revision history

RyanKing: Reverted edits by VilinOerca (Talk) to last version by Tantek

2008-12-27T06:18:42Z

Reverted edits by VilinOerca (Talk) to last version by Tantek

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	~~darrolo~~
	= Discussion Participants =		= Discussion Participants =

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	== Authors ==		== Authors ==
	* [http://www.blogmatrix.com David Janes]		* [http://www.blogmatrix.com David Janes]
	* [http://tantek.com/ Tantek ~~Ãelik~~]		* [http://tantek.com/ Tantek Çelik]
	* [[MikeTaylor\|Mike Taylor]]		* [[MikeTaylor\|Mike Taylor]]
	* [http://www.oreillynet.com Justin Watt]		* [http://www.oreillynet.com Justin Watt]
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	<div id="varXYZ8148" style="display: none">		<div id="varXYZ8148" style="display: none">
	<p>The very gadgets ~~â~~ computers linked...</p>		<p>The very gadgets – computers linked...</p>
	... the rest of the extended content ...		... the rest of the extended content ...

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	<div id="varXYZ8148" style="display: none">		<div id="varXYZ8148" style="display: none">
	<div class="atom:content">		<div class="atom:content">
	<p>The very gadgets ~~â~~ computers linked...</p>		<p>The very gadgets – computers linked...</p>
	... the rest of the extended content ...		... the rest of the extended content ...
	</div>		</div>

VilinOerca: alc4trel

2008-12-26T11:51:20Z

alc4trel

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			darrolo
	= Discussion Participants =		= Discussion Participants =

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	== Authors ==		== Authors ==
	* [http://www.blogmatrix.com David Janes]		* [http://www.blogmatrix.com David Janes]
	* [http://tantek.com/ Tantek ~~Çelik~~]		* [http://tantek.com/ Tantek Ãelik]
	* [[MikeTaylor\|Mike Taylor]]		* [[MikeTaylor\|Mike Taylor]]
	* [http://www.oreillynet.com Justin Watt]		* [http://www.oreillynet.com Justin Watt]
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	<div id="varXYZ8148" style="display: none">		<div id="varXYZ8148" style="display: none">
	<p>The very gadgets – computers linked...</p>		<p>The very gadgets â computers linked...</p>
	... the rest of the extended content ...		... the rest of the extended content ...

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	<div id="varXYZ8148" style="display: none">		<div id="varXYZ8148" style="display: none">
	<div class="atom:content">		<div class="atom:content">
	<p>The very gadgets – computers linked...</p>		<p>The very gadgets â computers linked...</p>
	... the rest of the extended content ...		... the rest of the extended content ...
	</div>		</div>

Tantek: Reverted edit of Gazza, changed back to last version by DavidJanes

2007-05-01T23:40:25Z

Reverted edit of Gazza, changed back to last version by DavidJanes

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	* [http://www.blogmatrix.com David Janes]		* [http://www.blogmatrix.com David Janes]
	* [http://tantek.com/ Tantek Çelik]		* [http://tantek.com/ Tantek Çelik]
	* [[~~User:~~MikeTaylor\|Mike Taylor]]		* [[MikeTaylor\|Mike Taylor]]
	* [http://www.oreillynet.com Justin Watt]		* [http://www.oreillynet.com Justin Watt]

Gazza: /* Authors */ Fixed broken link

2007-05-01T12:33:37Z

Authors: Fixed broken link

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	* [http://www.blogmatrix.com David Janes]		* [http://www.blogmatrix.com David Janes]
	* [http://tantek.com/ Tantek Çelik]		* [http://tantek.com/ Tantek Çelik]
	* [[MikeTaylor\|Mike Taylor]]		* [[User:MikeTaylor\|Mike Taylor]]
	* [http://www.oreillynet.com Justin Watt]		* [http://www.oreillynet.com Justin Watt]

DavidJanes: undid

2006-01-06T19:49:46Z

undid

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	=== Discussion ===		=== Discussion ===

			==== feed title ====

			I initially thought "fn" would make sense for the feed title, but having looked at some blogs/feeds, though in many cases the title of the blog/feed is the name of the blog/feed, this is often not the case.

			Two examples:
			#. Some blog titles consist of the blog name and the date, e.g. Scripting News does this.
			#. Some blog titles consist of the blog name and a short temporary phrase or saying

			I have seen both of these in the wild often enough to believe that blog title and blog name are not the same, thus it is inappropriate to re-use "fn" from [[hcard\|hCard]], since the feed title does not mean the same thing as the name of the feed. Thus I have removed the suggestion to re-use "fn" for feed title, and instead propose re-using "headline" from the entry, which does appear to have the same semantic.

	== Additional Possibilities ==		== Additional Possibilities ==

DavidJanes: Moving discussiion up on page...

2006-01-06T19:49:11Z

Moving discussiion up on page...

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	=== Discussion ===		=== Discussion ===

	~~==== feed title ====~~

	I initially thought "fn" would make sense for the feed title, but having looked at some blogs/feeds, though in many cases the title of the blog/feed is the name of the blog/feed, this is often not the case.

	~~Two examples:~~
	~~#. Some blog titles consist of the blog name and the date, e.g. Scripting News does this.~~
	~~#. Some blog titles consist of the blog name and a short temporary phrase or saying~~

	I have seen both of these in the wild often enough to believe that blog title and blog name are not the same, thus it is inappropriate to re-use "fn" from [[hcard\|hCard]], since the feed title does not mean the same thing as the name of the feed. Thus I have removed the suggestion to re-use "fn" for feed title, and instead propose re-using "headline" from the entry, which does appear to have the same semantic.

	== Additional Possibilities ==		== Additional Possibilities ==

Tantek: remove fn for feed title and explain why. re-use "headline" instead.

2006-01-06T18:49:03Z

remove fn for feed title and explain why. re-use "headline" instead.

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	* feed		* feed
	** title - ~~re-use~~ "fn" ~~from [[hcard\|hCard]]~~, ~~since the feed title is essentially the name of the feed~~		** title - "headline", same as entry
	** id - define new [[rel-canonical]] microformat for this.		** id - define new [[rel-canonical]] microformat for this.
	** author - "author" required.		** author - "author" required.
	* entry		* entry
	** id - re-use "uid" from [[hcalendar\|hCalendar]].		** id - re-use "uid" from [[hcalendar\|hCalendar]].

			=== Discussion ===

			==== feed title ====

			I initially thought "fn" would make sense for the feed title, but having looked at some blogs/feeds, though in many cases the title of the blog/feed is the name of the blog/feed, this is often not the case.

			Two examples:
			#. Some blog titles consist of the blog name and the date, e.g. Scripting News does this.
			#. Some blog titles consist of the blog name and a short temporary phrase or saying

			I have seen both of these in the wild often enough to believe that blog title and blog name are not the same, thus it is inappropriate to re-use "fn" from [[hcard\|hCard]], since the feed title does not mean the same thing as the name of the feed. Thus I have removed the suggestion to re-use "fn" for feed title, and instead propose re-using "headline" from the entry, which does appear to have the same semantic.

	== Additional Possibilities ==		== Additional Possibilities ==

Tantek: /* Possible Atom to microformat(s) mapping */

2006-01-04T17:30:34Z

Possible Atom to microformat(s) mapping

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	** updated - "updated"		** updated - "updated"
	** author - "author", if none found, imply from <address> (which SHOULD be used anyway), either way, MUST be an [[hcard\|hCard]].		** author - "author", if none found, imply from <address> (which SHOULD be used anyway), either way, MUST be an [[hcard\|hCard]].
	** generator - set by the converting script / XSLT, omit from hAtom. Similar to PRODID in [[~~hcaelendar~~\|hCalendar]].		** generator - set by the converting script / XSLT, omit from hAtom. Similar to PRODID in [[hcalendar\|hCalendar]].
	** logo - re-use "logo" from [[hcard\|hCard]]		** logo - re-use "logo" from [[hcard\|hCard]]
	** icon - define new [[rel-icon]] (see XHTML2) for this		** icon - define new [[rel-icon]] (see XHTML2) for this

Tantek: add rights - rel-license

2006-01-04T17:29:36Z

add rights - rel-license

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	** icon - define new [[rel-icon]] (see XHTML2) for this		** icon - define new [[rel-icon]] (see XHTML2) for this
	** category - [[rel-tag]] + [[rel-directory]]		** category - [[rel-tag]] + [[rel-directory]]
			** rights - [[rel-license]]
	* entry - "hentry"		* entry - "hentry"
	** title - "headline"		** title - "headline"
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	** updated - "updated"		** updated - "updated"
	** author - "author", MUST be [[hcard\|hCard]], SHOULD be <address>		** author - "author", MUST be [[hcard\|hCard]], SHOULD be <address>
			** rights - [[rel-license]]

	== Multiple feeds on a page ==		== Multiple feeds on a page ==
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	** contributor - "contributor"		** contributor - "contributor"
	** source - use <blockquote cite="">, put source in cite attribute.		** source - use <blockquote cite="">, put source in cite attribute.


	= Possible Uses =		= Possible Uses =

Tantek: /* Discussion Participants */

2006-01-04T11:01:07Z

Discussion Participants

← Older revision		Revision as of 11:01, 4 January 2006
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	== Authors ==		== Authors ==
	* [http://www.blogmatrix.com David Janes]		* [http://www.blogmatrix.com David Janes]
			* [http://tantek.com/ Tantek Çelik]
	~~== Contributors ==~~		* [[MikeTaylor\|Mike Taylor]]
	* [http://www.oreillynet.com Justin Watt]		* [http://www.oreillynet.com Justin Watt]
	* [[MikeTaylor\|Mike Taylor]]

	= Purpose =		= Purpose =