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Aaronpk: Replace with {{DISPLAYTITLE:}}

2020-07-18T16:21:39Z

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	Brainstorming for a possible [[currency]] microformat per the microformats [[process]]:		Brainstorming for a possible [[currency]] microformat per the microformats [[process]]:

Tantek: entry-title fix, normal microformats process intro, move problem brainstorming from examples to here

2013-03-18T23:16:37Z

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-== Brainstorming ==
+<entry-title>currency brainstorming</entry-title>
-Brainstorming for the proposed [[currency]] microformat.
+Brainstorming for a possible [[currency]] microformat per the microformats [[process]]:
 ===Ken Griffith===

Brian: Reverted edits by TrocaCelcn (Talk) to last version by Brian

2009-01-03T19:16:15Z

Reverted edits by TrocaCelcn (Talk) to last version by Brian

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	~~orbasboour~~
	== Brainstorming ==		== Brainstorming ==

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	<p>Could pure HTML be sufficient?</p>		<p>Could pure HTML be sufficient?</p>
	<pre><html lang="en-gb">		<pre><html lang="en-gb">
	<p>My new T-Shirts cost ~~Â£30~~, but it cost my friend in Canada <span lang="en-ca">$34</span></p>		<p>My new T-Shirts cost £30, but it cost my friend in Canada <span lang="en-ca">$34</span></p>
	</html></pre>		</html></pre>

	===Arve Bersvendsen ===		===Arve Bersvendsen ===
	<pre><p lang="nb">Den kanadiske prisen ~~pÃ¥~~ t-skjorten var <span class="currency CAD">34 $</span>.</p></pre>		<pre><p lang="nb">Den kanadiske prisen på t-skjorten var <span class="currency CAD">34 $</span>.</p></pre>

	=== Mike Stickel ===		=== Mike Stickel ===
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	**<s>equivalence - class (optional; conversion should be done by the user agent. Do we need this? Does it need a numeric value?)</s>		**<s>equivalence - class (optional; conversion should be done by the user agent. Do we need this? Does it need a numeric value?)</s>

	All classes may occur only once, apart from ''symbol'' (to allow for "~~Â£14~~ 6s 2d") and ''unit'' (to allow for "five pounds 23 pence").		All classes may occur only once, apart from ''symbol'' (to allow for "£14 6s 2d") and ''unit'' (to allow for "five pounds 23 pence").

	=====Examples=====		=====Examples=====
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	</nowiki></pre>		</nowiki></pre>

	(The above might be rendered as "... 1/ (worth ~~Â£4~~.50 in modern terms" (or whatever the value would be).)		(The above might be rendered as "... 1/ (worth £4.50 in modern terms" (or whatever the value would be).)

	<pre><nowiki>		<pre><nowiki>
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	<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">		<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">
	<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">		<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">
	<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">Â£</abbr>14		<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">£</abbr>14
	</abbr>		</abbr>
	6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>		6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>
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	<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">		<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">
	<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">		<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">
	<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">Â£</abbr>14		<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">£</abbr>14
	</abbr>		</abbr>
	6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>		6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>

TrocaCelcn: relacro

2009-01-03T11:36:46Z

relacro

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			orbasboour
	== Brainstorming ==		== Brainstorming ==

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	<p>Could pure HTML be sufficient?</p>		<p>Could pure HTML be sufficient?</p>
	<pre><html lang="en-gb">		<pre><html lang="en-gb">
	<p>My new T-Shirts cost ~~£30~~, but it cost my friend in Canada <span lang="en-ca">$34</span></p>		<p>My new T-Shirts cost Â£30, but it cost my friend in Canada <span lang="en-ca">$34</span></p>
	</html></pre>		</html></pre>

	===Arve Bersvendsen ===		===Arve Bersvendsen ===
	<pre><p lang="nb">Den kanadiske prisen på t-skjorten var <span class="currency CAD">34 $</span>.</p></pre>		<pre><p lang="nb">Den kanadiske prisen pÃ¥ t-skjorten var <span class="currency CAD">34 $</span>.</p></pre>

	=== Mike Stickel ===		=== Mike Stickel ===
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	**<s>equivalence - class (optional; conversion should be done by the user agent. Do we need this? Does it need a numeric value?)</s>		**<s>equivalence - class (optional; conversion should be done by the user agent. Do we need this? Does it need a numeric value?)</s>

	All classes may occur only once, apart from ''symbol'' (to allow for "~~£14~~ 6s 2d") and ''unit'' (to allow for "five pounds 23 pence").		All classes may occur only once, apart from ''symbol'' (to allow for "Â£14 6s 2d") and ''unit'' (to allow for "five pounds 23 pence").

	=====Examples=====		=====Examples=====
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	</nowiki></pre>		</nowiki></pre>

	(The above might be rendered as "... 1/ (worth £4.50 in modern terms" (or whatever the value would be).)		(The above might be rendered as "... 1/ (worth Â£4.50 in modern terms" (or whatever the value would be).)

	<pre><nowiki>		<pre><nowiki>
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	<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">		<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">
	<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">		<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">
	<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">£</abbr>14		<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">Â£</abbr>14
	</abbr>		</abbr>
	6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>		6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>
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	<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">		<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">
	<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">		<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">
	<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">£</abbr>14		<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">Â£</abbr>14
	</abbr>		</abbr>
	6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>		6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>

Brian: Reverted edits by LividOmaca (Talk) to last version by Gazza

2008-12-20T22:07:12Z

Reverted edits by LividOmaca (Talk) to last version by Gazza

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	~~elvarctr~~
	== Brainstorming ==		== Brainstorming ==

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	<p>Could pure HTML be sufficient?</p>		<p>Could pure HTML be sufficient?</p>
	<pre><html lang="en-gb">		<pre><html lang="en-gb">
	<p>My new T-Shirts cost ~~Â£30~~, but it cost my friend in Canada <span lang="en-ca">$34</span></p>		<p>My new T-Shirts cost £30, but it cost my friend in Canada <span lang="en-ca">$34</span></p>
	</html></pre>		</html></pre>

	===Arve Bersvendsen ===		===Arve Bersvendsen ===
	<pre><p lang="nb">Den kanadiske prisen ~~pÃ¥~~ t-skjorten var <span class="currency CAD">34 $</span>.</p></pre>		<pre><p lang="nb">Den kanadiske prisen på t-skjorten var <span class="currency CAD">34 $</span>.</p></pre>

	=== Mike Stickel ===		=== Mike Stickel ===
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	**<s>equivalence - class (optional; conversion should be done by the user agent. Do we need this? Does it need a numeric value?)</s>		**<s>equivalence - class (optional; conversion should be done by the user agent. Do we need this? Does it need a numeric value?)</s>

	All classes may occur only once, apart from ''symbol'' (to allow for "~~Â£14~~ 6s 2d") and ''unit'' (to allow for "five pounds 23 pence").		All classes may occur only once, apart from ''symbol'' (to allow for "£14 6s 2d") and ''unit'' (to allow for "five pounds 23 pence").

	=====Examples=====		=====Examples=====
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	</nowiki></pre>		</nowiki></pre>

	(The above might be rendered as "... 1/ (worth ~~Â£4~~.50 in modern terms" (or whatever the value would be).)		(The above might be rendered as "... 1/ (worth £4.50 in modern terms" (or whatever the value would be).)

	<pre><nowiki>		<pre><nowiki>
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	<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">		<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">
	<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">		<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">
	<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">Â£</abbr>14		<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">£</abbr>14
	</abbr>		</abbr>
	6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>		6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>
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	<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">		<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">
	<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">		<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">
	<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">Â£</abbr>14		<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">£</abbr>14
	</abbr>		</abbr>
	6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>		6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>

LividOmaca: darcnalet

2008-12-20T02:42:53Z

darcnalet

← Older revision		Revision as of 02:42, 20 December 2008
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			elvarctr
	== Brainstorming ==		== Brainstorming ==

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	<p>Could pure HTML be sufficient?</p>		<p>Could pure HTML be sufficient?</p>
	<pre><html lang="en-gb">		<pre><html lang="en-gb">
	<p>My new T-Shirts cost ~~£30~~, but it cost my friend in Canada <span lang="en-ca">$34</span></p>		<p>My new T-Shirts cost Â£30, but it cost my friend in Canada <span lang="en-ca">$34</span></p>
	</html></pre>		</html></pre>

	===Arve Bersvendsen ===		===Arve Bersvendsen ===
	<pre><p lang="nb">Den kanadiske prisen på t-skjorten var <span class="currency CAD">34 $</span>.</p></pre>		<pre><p lang="nb">Den kanadiske prisen pÃ¥ t-skjorten var <span class="currency CAD">34 $</span>.</p></pre>

	=== Mike Stickel ===		=== Mike Stickel ===
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	**<s>equivalence - class (optional; conversion should be done by the user agent. Do we need this? Does it need a numeric value?)</s>		**<s>equivalence - class (optional; conversion should be done by the user agent. Do we need this? Does it need a numeric value?)</s>

	All classes may occur only once, apart from ''symbol'' (to allow for "~~£14~~ 6s 2d") and ''unit'' (to allow for "five pounds 23 pence").		All classes may occur only once, apart from ''symbol'' (to allow for "Â£14 6s 2d") and ''unit'' (to allow for "five pounds 23 pence").

	=====Examples=====		=====Examples=====
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	</nowiki></pre>		</nowiki></pre>

	(The above might be rendered as "... 1/ (worth £4.50 in modern terms" (or whatever the value would be).)		(The above might be rendered as "... 1/ (worth Â£4.50 in modern terms" (or whatever the value would be).)

	<pre><nowiki>		<pre><nowiki>
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	<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">		<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">
	<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">		<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">
	<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">£</abbr>14		<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">Â£</abbr>14
	</abbr>		</abbr>
	6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>		6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>
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	<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">		<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">
	<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">		<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">
	<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">£</abbr>14		<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">Â£</abbr>14
	</abbr>		</abbr>
	6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>		6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>

Gazza: /* Gary Jones */ Using Syntax highlighting

2008-11-28T10:46:02Z

Gary Jones: Using Syntax highlighting

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	=== Gary Jones ===		=== Gary Jones ===

	<~~pre><nowiki~~>		<source lang=html4strict>
	<span class="currency">		<span class="currency">
	<abbr class="type" title="CAD">$</abbr>		<abbr class="type" title="CAD">$</abbr>
	<span class="value">5.00</span>		<span class="value">5.00</span>
	</span>		</span>
	</~~nowiki></pre~~>		</source>

	Renders as:		Renders as:
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	I do think that the use of "type" and "value" classes would be better than variations of "currency_symbol" and "amount". It follows the same principles as some other elemental formats ([http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#Value_excerpting value excerpting]), meaning it's [http://microformats.org/wiki/naming-principles#Minimal_Vocabulary easier to remember] and implement, and even ISO4217 has codes for "currencies" that don't use symbols:		I do think that the use of "type" and "value" classes would be better than variations of "currency_symbol" and "amount". It follows the same principles as some other elemental formats ([http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#Value_excerpting value excerpting]), meaning it's [http://microformats.org/wiki/naming-principles#Minimal_Vocabulary easier to remember] and implement, and even ISO4217 has codes for "currencies" that don't use symbols:

	<~~pre><nowiki~~>		<source lang=html4strict>
	<span class="currency">		<span class="currency">
	<span class="value">23</span> ounces of		<span class="value">23</span> ounces of
	<abbr class="type" title="XAG">gold</abbr>		<abbr class="type" title="XAG">gold</abbr>
	</span>		</span>
	</~~nowiki></pre~~>		</source>

	Renders as:		Renders as:

ClinchMountain: /* Brainstorming */ extensible currency codes

2008-09-02T13:14:50Z

Brainstorming: extensible currency codes

← Older revision		Revision as of 13:14, 2 September 2008
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	Brainstorming for the proposed [[currency]] microformat.		Brainstorming for the proposed [[currency]] microformat.


			===Ken Griffith===

			<p>Ben B's system is the most extensible of the proposals here, though it might be problematic to insert it as an inline element in a paragraph that mentions a currency amount. It would be preferable to use only inline elements.</p>

			<p>Regarding currency codes, it will be important to use an extensible code system. ISO 4217 is great for listing national currencies. However, we need to look at how people actually use currency for transactions on the web. There are a lot of businesses and people using systems like e-gold, Webmoney, etc - several billion dollars equivalent in annual transactions - a small but steadily growing percentage of web transactions. So there should be a currency code list somewhere that can be extended beyond ISO 4217 to include private issue currency units that people actually use on the web.</p>

	===Ben Buchanan===		===Ben Buchanan===
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	<pre><abbr class="currency price" title="USD100">one hundred bucks</abbr></pre>		<pre><abbr class="currency price" title="USD100">one hundred bucks</abbr></pre>


	==Straw man==		==Straw man==

Brian: Reverted edit of BoctrOcrac, changed back to last version by MaxwellTerry

2008-02-11T12:59:58Z

Reverted edit of BoctrOcrac, changed back to last version by MaxwellTerry

← Older revision		Revision as of 12:59, 11 February 2008
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	~~mondom~~
	== Brainstorming ==		== Brainstorming ==

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	<p>Could pure HTML be sufficient?</p>		<p>Could pure HTML be sufficient?</p>
	<pre><html lang="en-gb">		<pre><html lang="en-gb">
	<p>My new T-Shirts cost ~~Â£30~~, but it cost my friend in Canada <span lang="en-ca">$34</span></p>		<p>My new T-Shirts cost £30, but it cost my friend in Canada <span lang="en-ca">$34</span></p>
	</html></pre>		</html></pre>

	===Arve Bersvendsen ===		===Arve Bersvendsen ===
	<pre><p lang="nb">Den kanadiske prisen ~~pÃ¥~~ t-skjorten var <span class="currency CAD">34 $</span>.</p></pre>		<pre><p lang="nb">Den kanadiske prisen på t-skjorten var <span class="currency CAD">34 $</span>.</p></pre>

	=== Mike Stickel ===		=== Mike Stickel ===
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	**<s>equivalence - class (optional; conversion should be done by the user agent. Do we need this? Does it need a numeric value?)</s>		**<s>equivalence - class (optional; conversion should be done by the user agent. Do we need this? Does it need a numeric value?)</s>

	All classes may occur only once, apart from ''symbol'' (to allow for "~~Â£14~~ 6s 2d") and ''unit'' (to allow for "five pounds 23 pence").		All classes may occur only once, apart from ''symbol'' (to allow for "£14 6s 2d") and ''unit'' (to allow for "five pounds 23 pence").

	=====Examples=====		=====Examples=====
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	</nowiki></pre>		</nowiki></pre>

	(The above might be rendered as "... 1/ (worth ~~Â£4~~.50 in modern terms" (or whatever the value would be).)		(The above might be rendered as "... 1/ (worth £4.50 in modern terms" (or whatever the value would be).)

	<pre><nowiki>		<pre><nowiki>
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	<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">		<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">
	<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">		<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">
	<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">Â£</abbr>14		<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">£</abbr>14
	</abbr>		</abbr>
	6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>		6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>
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	<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">		<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">
	<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">		<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">
	<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">Â£</abbr>14		<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">£</abbr>14
	</abbr>		</abbr>
	6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>		6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>

BoctrOcrac: orsitdr

2008-02-10T10:07:41Z

orsitdr

← Older revision		Revision as of 10:07, 10 February 2008
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			mondom
	== Brainstorming ==		== Brainstorming ==

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	<p>Could pure HTML be sufficient?</p>		<p>Could pure HTML be sufficient?</p>
	<pre><html lang="en-gb">		<pre><html lang="en-gb">
	<p>My new T-Shirts cost ~~£30~~, but it cost my friend in Canada <span lang="en-ca">$34</span></p>		<p>My new T-Shirts cost Â£30, but it cost my friend in Canada <span lang="en-ca">$34</span></p>
	</html></pre>		</html></pre>

	===Arve Bersvendsen ===		===Arve Bersvendsen ===
	<pre><p lang="nb">Den kanadiske prisen på t-skjorten var <span class="currency CAD">34 $</span>.</p></pre>		<pre><p lang="nb">Den kanadiske prisen pÃ¥ t-skjorten var <span class="currency CAD">34 $</span>.</p></pre>

	=== Mike Stickel ===		=== Mike Stickel ===
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	**<s>equivalence - class (optional; conversion should be done by the user agent. Do we need this? Does it need a numeric value?)</s>		**<s>equivalence - class (optional; conversion should be done by the user agent. Do we need this? Does it need a numeric value?)</s>

	All classes may occur only once, apart from ''symbol'' (to allow for "~~£14~~ 6s 2d") and ''unit'' (to allow for "five pounds 23 pence").		All classes may occur only once, apart from ''symbol'' (to allow for "Â£14 6s 2d") and ''unit'' (to allow for "five pounds 23 pence").

	=====Examples=====		=====Examples=====
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	</nowiki></pre>		</nowiki></pre>

	(The above might be rendered as "... 1/ (worth £4.50 in modern terms" (or whatever the value would be).)		(The above might be rendered as "... 1/ (worth Â£4.50 in modern terms" (or whatever the value would be).)

	<pre><nowiki>		<pre><nowiki>
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	<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">		<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">
	<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">		<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">
	<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">£</abbr>14		<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">Â£</abbr>14
	</abbr>		</abbr>
	6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>		6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>
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	<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">		<abbr class="amount" title="14.32">
	<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">		<abbr class="currency" title="GBP">
	<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">£</abbr>14		<abbr class="symbol" title="pound">Â£</abbr>14
	</abbr>		</abbr>
	6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>		6<abbr class="unit" title="shilling">s</abbr>