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	One of several microformats [[meetup]] [[events]].		One of several microformats [[meetup]] [[events]].

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	;Web		;Web
	:<span class="url">http://upcoming.~~yahoo.com~~/event/7697850/</span>		:<span class="url">http://upcoming.org/event/7697850/</span>
	:<span class="url">http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=179746412062960</span>		:<span class="url">http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=179746412062960</span>
	:<span class="url">http://plancast.com/p/3q2t</span>		:<span class="url">http://plancast.com/p/3q2t</span>

Tantek: typo, move photo up near attendees for better context

2011-02-11T02:14:41Z

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	* Ian Fung		* Ian Fung
	* PJKix		* PJKix

			== Photographs ==
			* Search for photographs from this event on Flickr: [http://flickr.com/photos/tags/microformats-dinner-2011-02-01 Photographs tagged microformats-dinner-2011-02-01] or for [http://flickr.com/photos/tags/microformats-dinner all photographs from microformats dinners].

			[http://www.flickr.com/photos/tantek/5409768849/ http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4092/5409768849_3a18bb89a9_z.jpg]

			''Add a photograph from this event here''.

	== Notes ==		== Notes ==
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	**** not the/an editor of the spec (demonstrates some breadth of interest)		**** not the/an editor of the spec (demonstrates some breadth of interest)
	*** minor changes can still occur, up to and including dropping of properties and values (especially in order to reach "standard" stage - see below)		*** minor changes can still occur, up to and including dropping of properties and values (especially in order to reach "standard" stage - see below)
	*** '''[[hReview]] and [[hAtom]] are ~~read~~ to become "specifications"''' with a bit of work:		*** '''[[hReview]] and [[hAtom]] are ready to become "specifications"''' with a bit of work:
	**** resolve outstanding issues and incorporate into spec updates (0.4, 0.2 respectively)		**** resolve outstanding issues and incorporate into spec updates (0.4, 0.2 respectively)
	**** use existing -examples-in-wild and -implementations pages as supporting evidence for publisher(s)/consumer(s) requirement		**** use existing -examples-in-wild and -implementations pages as supporting evidence for publisher(s)/consumer(s) requirement
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	**** write up remaining missing test cases for a full property (not necessarily value) coverage test suite		**** write up remaining missing test cases for a full property (not necessarily value) coverage test suite
	**** drop insufficiently supported properties (e.g. "class", "key")		**** drop insufficiently supported properties (e.g. "class", "key")

	~~== Photographs ==~~
	* Search for photographs from this event on Flickr: [http://flickr.com/photos/tags/microformats-dinner-2011-02-01 Photographs tagged microformats-dinner-2011-02-01] or for [http://flickr.com/photos/tags/microformats-dinner all photographs from microformats dinners].

	~~[http://www.flickr.com/photos/tantek/5409768849/ http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4092/5409768849_3a18bb89a9_z.jpg]~~

	~~''Add a photograph from this event here''.~~

	== Articles and Blog Posts ==		== Articles and Blog Posts ==

Tantek: /* Notes */ fix fmt

2011-02-07T21:56:23Z

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	*** [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Internet_standard IETF process]: Internet Draft (draft), RFC, Proposed Standard, Draft Standard, Standard.		*** [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Internet_standard IETF process]: Internet Draft (draft), RFC, Proposed Standard, Draft Standard, Standard.
	*** WhatWG process: continuously updated editor's specification		*** WhatWG process: continuously updated editor's specification
	** Thus, '''draft stages brainstorm: draft, specification (as used currently), and new ~~one: "standard"~~ based on being market proven (only market proven standards are "real world" standards). Specific brainstorm definitions:		** Thus, '''draft stages brainstorm: ''draft'', ''specification'' (as used currently), and ''standard'' (new)''' based on being market proven (only market proven standards are "real world" standards). Specific brainstorm definitions:
	** '''draft'''		** '''draft'''
	*** consensus has been reached among the various *-brainstorming proposals, sufficient to write-up into a stand-alone draft.		*** consensus has been reached among the various *-brainstorming proposals, sufficient to write-up into a stand-alone draft.

Tantek: /* Notes */ bold some of the Qs and key points for easier summary / navigability

2011-02-07T21:52:16Z

Notes: bold some of the Qs and key points for easier summary / navigability

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	* [[microformats-2]]		* [[microformats-2]]
	* [[process-brainstorming]], specifically, iterating on ideas for more precisely defining the state of microformats specs. Thoughts by [[User:Tantek\|Tantek]], with additional suggestions incorporated from [[User:Kevin_Marks\|Kevin Marks]] and [[User:BenWard\|Ben Ward]]:		* [[process-brainstorming]], specifically, iterating on ideas for more precisely defining the state of microformats specs. Thoughts by [[User:Tantek\|Tantek]], with additional suggestions incorporated from [[User:Kevin_Marks\|Kevin Marks]] and [[User:BenWard\|Ben Ward]]:
	** what's the real world problem we're solving? (should ask for all microformats efforts)		** '''what's the real world problem we're solving?''' (should ask for all microformats efforts)
	*** no microformats "drafts" have made it to "specification" since site launch in 2005		*** no microformats "drafts" have made it to "specification" since site launch in 2005
	** why is this a real world problem?		** '''why is this a real world problem?'''
	*** perception/actual lack of microformats progress, or frustration with (in)ability to make progress, hurts adoption/evangelism efforts, raises barrier to additional adoption of microformats.		*** perception/actual lack of microformats progress, or frustration with (in)ability to make progress, hurts adoption/evangelism efforts, raises barrier to additional adoption of microformats.
	** is this just blocked due to lack of process? is there something more?		** '''is this just blocked due to lack of explicit process or is there something more?'''
	*** Tantek: both.		*** Tantek: both.
	**** Yes there is currently no defined [[process]] for transitioning from draft to specification.		**** Yes there is currently no defined [[process]] for transitioning from draft to specification.
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	****** resolve outstanding issues, incorporate issue resolutions into draft iterations		****** resolve outstanding issues, incorporate issue resolutions into draft iterations
	***** evaluate how well that "worked" and iterate process accordingly.		***** evaluate how well that "worked" and iterate process accordingly.
	** how do we create "real world" process for advancing drafts?		** '''how do we create "real world" process for advancing drafts?'''
	*** follow microformats philosophy, gather examples of what others do, what works, minimally pick 80/20 that seem necessary, base it on microformats principles (real world, mimimal).		*** follow microformats philosophy, gather examples of what others do, what works, minimally pick 80/20 that seem necessary, base it on microformats principles (real world, mimimal).
	** previous efforts at defining specification progress:		** '''research: previous efforts''' at defining specification progress stages:
	*** [http://w3.org W3C] process: Working Draft (WD), Last Call (WDLC), Candidate Recommendation (CR), Proposed Recommendation (PR), Recommendation (REC).		*** [http://w3.org W3C] process: Working Draft (WD), Last Call (WDLC), Candidate Recommendation (CR), Proposed Recommendation (PR), Recommendation (REC).
	*** [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Internet_standard IETF process]: Internet Draft (draft), RFC, Proposed Standard, Draft Standard, Standard.		*** [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Internet_standard IETF process]: Internet Draft (draft), RFC, Proposed Standard, Draft Standard, Standard.
	*** WhatWG process: continuously updated editor's specification		*** WhatWG process: continuously updated editor's specification
	** Thus, draft stages brainstorm: draft, specification (as used currently), and new one: "standard" based on being market proven (only market proven standards are "real world" standards). Specific brainstorm definitions:		** Thus, '''draft stages brainstorm: draft, specification (as used currently), and new one: "standard" based on being market proven (only market proven standards are "real world" standards). Specific brainstorm definitions:
	** '''draft'''		** '''draft'''
	*** consensus has been reached among the various *-brainstorming proposals, sufficient to write-up into a stand-alone draft.		*** consensus has been reached among the various *-brainstorming proposals, sufficient to write-up into a stand-alone draft.
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	**** not the/an editor of the spec (demonstrates some breadth of interest)		**** not the/an editor of the spec (demonstrates some breadth of interest)
	*** minor changes can still occur, up to and including dropping of properties and values (especially in order to reach "standard" stage - see below)		*** minor changes can still occur, up to and including dropping of properties and values (especially in order to reach "standard" stage - see below)
			*** '''[[hReview]] and [[hAtom]] are read to become "specifications"''' with a bit of work:
			**** resolve outstanding issues and incorporate into spec updates (0.4, 0.2 respectively)
			**** use existing -examples-in-wild and -implementations pages as supporting evidence for publisher(s)/consumer(s) requirement
	** '''standard''' - only market proven specifications are standards for practical purposes, thus this is determined by:		** '''standard''' - only market proven specifications are standards for practical purposes, thus this is determined by:
	*** test suite with at least one test per feature (property/value) (should be easy)		*** test suite with at least one test per feature (property/value) (should be easy)
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	**** drop such under-supported property(ies) - insufficient market support to keep them. Thus properties which fail in the real world should be and get dropped. This also supports the simplify [[principle]]. Such features may be reconsidered for future versions if more sufficient publishers/consumers adopt them.		**** drop such under-supported property(ies) - insufficient market support to keep them. Thus properties which fail in the real world should be and get dropped. This also supports the simplify [[principle]]. Such features may be reconsidered for future versions if more sufficient publishers/consumers adopt them.
	**** or wait for more additional publisher(s)/consumer(s) to support them. a bit up to the editor's preference.		**** or wait for more additional publisher(s)/consumer(s) to support them. a bit up to the editor's preference.
			*** at this point bump the version # to 1.0 (if it isn't there already)
			*** '''[[hCard]] and [[hCalendar]] are ready to become "standards"''' with a bit of work:
			**** incorporate resolved issues into 1.0.1 releases (use 1.0.1 due to how long we left them a 1.0)
			**** write up remaining missing test cases for a full property (not necessarily value) coverage test suite
			**** drop insufficiently supported properties (e.g. "class", "key")

	== Photographs ==		== Photographs ==

Tantek: add notes from meetup discussions, expansion/writeup of draft/specification/standard

2011-02-07T21:02:33Z

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 '''[http://h2vx.com/ics/microformats.org/wiki/events/2011-02-01-weekly-dinner-sf Add this event to your calendar]''' http://www.boogdesign.com/images/buttons/microformat_hcalendar.png
-== Weekly Meetup ==
+== Meetup ==
-<div class="description">The microformats community has grown and stabilized over the past few years, news of adoptions, new ideas and challenges come up frequently enough that there are no shortage of new topics to discuss on a weekly basis.
+<div class="description">The microformats community has grown and stabilized over the past few years, news of adoptions, new ideas and challenges come up frequently enough that there are no shortage of new topics to discuss on a regular basis.
 Come along, meet up with the microformats community in San Francisco.
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 Topics Discussed:
-* ...
+* [[admins]] - how to mentor and develop new admins, encourage positive community growth
+* [[microformats-2]]
-== Photographs ==
+* [[process-brainstorming]], specifically, iterating on ideas for more precisely defining the state of microformats specs. Thoughts by [[User:Tantek|Tantek]], with additional suggestions incorporated from [[User:Kevin_Marks|Kevin Marks]] and [[User:BenWard|Ben Ward]]:
+** what's the real world problem we're solving? (should ask for all microformats efforts)
 * Search for photographs from this event on Flickr: [http://flickr.com/photos/tags/microformats-dinner-2011-02-01 Photographs tagged microformats-dinner-2011-02-01] or for [http://flickr.com/photos/tags/microformats-dinner all photographs from microformats dinners].

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	* Search for photographs from this event on Flickr: [http://flickr.com/photos/tags/microformats-dinner-2011-02-01 Photographs tagged microformats-dinner-2011-02-01] or for [http://flickr.com/photos/tags/microformats-dinner all photographs from microformats dinners].		* Search for photographs from this event on Flickr: [http://flickr.com/photos/tags/microformats-dinner-2011-02-01 Photographs tagged microformats-dinner-2011-02-01] or for [http://flickr.com/photos/tags/microformats-dinner all photographs from microformats dinners].

			[http://www.flickr.com/photos/tantek/5409768849/ http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4092/5409768849_3a18bb89a9_z.jpg]

	''Add a photograph from this event here''.		''Add a photograph from this event here''.

	== Articles and Blog Posts ==		== Articles and Blog Posts ==
	Articles and blog posts following up on the meetup. Add a link to your post in the list below:		Articles and blog posts following up on the meetup. Add a link to your post in the list below:

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2011-02-02T11:55:06Z

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	* [[User:Tantek\|Tantek Çelik]]		* [[User:Tantek\|Tantek Çelik]]
	* ~~[[User:YourName\|You]]~~		* Ben Ward
	* ~~...~~		* Kevin Marks
			* Jeremy Anderson
			* Laura
			* Ian Fung
			* PJKix

	== Notes ==		== Notes ==

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	:<span class="url">http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/7697850/</span>		:<span class="url">http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/7697850/</span>
			:<span class="url">http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=179746412062960</span>
			:<span class="url">http://plancast.com/p/3q2t</span>


	'''[http://h2vx.com/ics/microformats.org/wiki/events/2011-02-01-weekly-dinner-sf Add this event to your calendar]''' http://www.boogdesign.com/images/buttons/microformat_hcalendar.png		'''[http://h2vx.com/ics/microformats.org/wiki/events/2011-02-01-weekly-dinner-sf Add this event to your calendar]''' http://www.boogdesign.com/images/buttons/microformat_hcalendar.png


	== Weekly Meetup ==		== Weekly Meetup ==
	<div class="description">The microformats community has grown and stabilized over the past few years, news of adoptions, new ideas and challenges come up frequently enough that there are no shortage of new topics to discuss on a weekly basis.		<div class="description">The microformats community has grown and stabilized over the past few years, news of adoptions, new ideas and challenges come up frequently enough that there are no shortage of new topics to discuss on a weekly basis.

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<entry-title>Microformats Dinner & Drinks</entry-title>
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One of several microformats [[meetup]] [[events]].

<div class="event-page vevent">
== Details ==
;When
:2011-02-01 from 19:00 to 21:00
;Where
:21st Amendment, 563 2nd Street, San Francisco, CA 94107 USA
;What
:Microformats Weekly Meetup Dinner, San Francisco
;Web
:http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/7697850/

'''[http://h2vx.com/ics/microformats.org/wiki/events/2011-02-01-weekly-dinner-sf Add this event to your calendar]''' http://www.boogdesign.com/images/buttons/microformat_hcalendar.png

== Weekly Meetup ==
<div class="description">The microformats community has grown and stabilized over the past few years, news of adoptions, new ideas and challenges come up frequently enough that there are no shortage of new topics to discuss on a weekly basis.

Come along, meet up with the microformats community in San Francisco.

In another city? Check out [[weekly-meetup#Other_Cities|Weekly Meetup: Other Cities]] and help organize one in your own city!</div>

== Tags ==
Use the following tags on related content (blog posts, photos, [http://twitter.com tweets]):

tags:
<kbd class="tags" style="display:block">
'''microformats-dinner'''
microformats-meetup
microformats
san-francisco
soma
southpark
2ndstreet
21stAmendment
''microformats-dinner-2011-02-01''
''upcoming:event=7697850''
</kbd>

If you use Twitter, mention ''@microformats dinner''' in tweets about the event, and track them on [http://search.twitter.com/search?q=microformats+dinner Twitter Search].

== Attendees ==
Add yourself alphabetically sorted by family name if you plan on attending or attended this event.

* [[User:Tantek|Tantek Çelik]]
* [[User:YourName|You]]
* ...

== Notes ==

Topics Discussed:

* ...

== Photographs ==

* Search for photographs from this event on Flickr: [http://flickr.com/photos/tags/microformats-dinner-2011-02-01 Photographs tagged microformats-dinner-2011-02-01] or for [http://flickr.com/photos/tags/microformats-dinner all photographs from microformats dinners].

''Add a photograph from this event here''.

== Articles and Blog Posts ==
Articles and blog posts following up on the meetup. Add a link to your post in the list below:

* ...

Also, find posts on this meetup on [http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=microformats-dinner-2011-02-01 Google Blog Search] or [http://technorati.com/search/microformats-dinner-2011-02-01 Technorati].

</div> 

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