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	===Notes===		===Notes===
	~~# A list of acceptable, case-insensitive, values for 'body' would need to be drawn up (e.g. "Earth", "Mars", "Luna", "Venus", etc.) wither "Earth" being assumed if none is specified.~~		:Aussi :
	~~# A list of acceptable values for 'schema' would need to be drawn up, for each body, with one being declared the default, to be used if no value is present (geo for Earth uses the datum of [http~~:~~//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Geodetic_System WGS84]).~~		:*Si la latitude est présente, alors la longitude DOIT l'être et vice versa..
	# As currently with geo, if the "latitude" and "longitude" classes are omitted, the two values MUST be separated by a semi-colon and latitude MUST be first:<code><nowiki><span class=geo">37.386013,-122.082932</span></nowiki></code>		:*La [http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/ Nomenclature des Noms de Planètes] a les coordonnées pour d'autres planètes, par ex. [http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/jsp/FeatureTypesData2.jsp?systemID=2&bodyID=17&typeID=10&system=Venus&body=Venus&type=Dorsum,%20dorsa&sort=AName&show=Fname&show=Lat&show=Long&show=Diam&show=Stat&show=Orig Venus] et les lunes, par ex. [http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/jsp/FeatureTypesData2.jsp?systemID=5&bodyID=7&typeID=15&system=Jupiter&body=Io&type=Fluctus,%20fluct%C5%ABs&sort=AName&show=Fname&show=Lat&show=Long&show=Diam&show=Stat&show=Orig Io].
	~~:Also~~:
	:*If latitude ~~is present~~, ~~so MUST be~~ longitude~~, and~~ vice versa.
	~~:*The same number of decimal places SHOULD be used in each value~~.
	:*~~The~~ [http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/ ~~Gazetteer of Planetary~~ Nomenclature] ~~has coordinates for other planets~~, ~~e.g~~. [http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/jsp/FeatureTypesData2.jsp?systemID=2&bodyID=17&typeID=10&system=Venus&body=Venus&type=Dorsum,%20dorsa&sort=AName&show=Fname&show=Lat&show=Long&show=Diam&show=Stat&show=Orig Venus] ~~and moons~~, ~~e.g~~. [http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/jsp/FeatureTypesData2.jsp?systemID=5&bodyID=7&typeID=15&system=Jupiter&body=Io&type=Fluctus,%20fluct%C5%ABs&sort=AName&show=Fname&show=Lat&show=Long&show=Diam&show=Stat&show=Orig Io].

	==Problématiques ==		==Problématiques ==
	*~~Should other~~ bodies ~~be included in~~ ''geo''~~, or have stand~~-~~alone~~ microformats?		*Devrait-il y avoir d'autres bodies inclus dans ''geo'' ou doit-il disposer de microformats autonomes ?
	*~~What effect will this have on existing~~ 'geo' ~~parsers, and it is safe to ignore that?~~		*Quel effet cela aura-t-il sur les parseurs existants 'geo' et est-ce sûr d'ignorer cela ?
	*What appropriate schemas exist?		*''Luna'' est le nom scientifique pour la lune de la Terre. Devrions-nous utiliser cela, ou réserver "''Moon''" ?
	**Lunar: Mean Earth Polar Axis		*Est-il pertinent d'utiliser le nom "geo" (qui signifie "Earth") pour d'autres "bodies" ?
	**??		*est-ce que ''body '' est un nom de classe acceptable, compte tenu du fait que c'est aussi un élément HTML ?
	*''Luna'' ~~is the scientific name for Earth's moon~~. ~~Should we use that~~, ~~or reserve~~ "''Moon''"?
	*~~Is it appropriate to use the name~~ "geo" (~~which means~~ "Earth") ~~for other~~ bodies?
	*is ''body '' an acceptable ~~class name~~, ~~given that it~~'~~s also an~~ HTML ~~element~~?

	==Commentaires==		==Commentaires==
	===thare===		===thare===
	Commentaires de [[User:PlanetGeo\| thare]]		Commentaires de [[User:PlanetGeo\| thare]]
	*~~geo does stand for Earth but it has previously been generalized for the planetary case. For example, the term geology is used for planetary bodies.~~		*utiliser ''body'' me va bien et je ne vois pas de conflit sous un élément HTML.
	*using ''body'' ~~is fine by~~ me ~~and do not see a conflict as an~~ HTML ~~element~~.		**Non je veux dire, par exemple, WGS84, ou les équivalents martiens ou lunaires. Est-ce que "schema" est peut-être le mauvais mot ?[[User:AndyMabbett\|Andy Mabbett]]
	*~~by schema do you mean a natural surficial property like earthquake, volcano, or crater? Or do you also want to include man-made items building, house, landing site?~~		**D'où 'schema'. [[User:AndyMabbett\|Andy Mabbett]]
	**No, I mean, ~~for example~~, WGS84, ~~or the Martian or lunar equivalents~~. Is "schema" ~~perhaps the wrong word~~?. [[User:AndyMabbett\|Andy Mabbett]]		*travail en cours- plus à venir plus tard.
	*I would suggest just using "''Moon''". For other spellings for planetary bodies I would look toward the IAU/IAG documentation (an international working group) [http://astrogeology.usgs.gov/Projects/WGCCRE/ IAU/IAG Working Group (WG) on Cartographic Coordinates and Rotational Elements]		**Merci. [[User:AndyMabbett\|Andy Mabbett]]
	*~~Since this is a simple case, I tried to stay away from this issue but just can~~'t. What does Earth really mean? There a many definitions for the size of Earth that need to be resolved when using lat/lon coordinates. Is the size of the Earth defined by the WGS84 or NAD27 definition? For Mars, is it the definition used in 1991 or redefined in 2000? This has previously been solved in web GIS applications by using an "EPSG" code. For planetary bodies we are attempting to define a similar coded standard which currently is called the IAU2000 code or namespace. Thus for Mars the code might be IAU2000:49900.
	**Hence 'schema'. [[User:AndyMabbett\|Andy Mabbett]]
	*~~still working~~ - ~~more later~~
	**~~Thank you~~. [[User:AndyMabbett\|Andy Mabbett]]
	===Autres===		===Autres===
	*???		*???

ChristopheDucamp at 21:13, 26 December 2006

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	==~~See also~~==		==Voir aussi==
	[http://www.theregister.com/2006/12/19/nasa_4_google/ NASA shares space with Google] (2006-12-20)		[http://www.theregister.com/2006/12/19/nasa_4_google/ NASA shares space with Google] (2006-12-20)

ChristopheDucamp at 21:12, 26 December 2006

2006-12-26T21:12:43Z

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<h1>Geo Extension Proposition Epouvantail</h1>

Pour aller plus loin vers des propositions pour [[luna-fr|luna]] et [[mars-fr|mars]] équivalentes à [[geo-fr|geo]], ce qui suit est une proposition "épouvantail" pour incorporer ces idées (et auiss opur d'autres corps) à l'intérieur de géo, afin qu'un débat plus en profondeur puisse prendre place. Sentez-vous à l'aise svp de critiquer cela durement mais justement !

==Auteur==
[[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]

==Straw-Man==

<pre><nowiki>



Mars [1]



[name of mapping schema] [2]


37.386013,
-122.082932 [3]

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===Notes===
# A list of acceptable, case-insensitive, values for 'body' would need to be drawn up (e.g. "Earth", "Mars", "Luna", "Venus", etc.) wither "Earth" being assumed if none is specified.
# A list of acceptable values for 'schema' would need to be drawn up, for each body, with one being declared the default, to be used if no value is present (geo for Earth uses the datum of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Geodetic_System WGS84]).
# As currently with geo, if the "latitude" and "longitude" classes are omitted, the two values MUST be separated by a semi-colon and latitude MUST be first:<code><nowiki>37.386013,-122.082932</nowiki></code>
:Also:
:*If latitude is present, so MUST be longitude, and vice versa.
:*The same number of decimal places SHOULD be used in each value.
:*The [http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/ Gazetteer of Planetary Nomenclature] has coordinates for other planets, e.g. [http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/jsp/FeatureTypesData2.jsp?systemID=2&bodyID=17&typeID=10&system=Venus&body=Venus&type=Dorsum,%20dorsa&sort=AName&show=Fname&show=Lat&show=Long&show=Diam&show=Stat&show=Orig Venus] and moons, e.g. [http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/jsp/FeatureTypesData2.jsp?systemID=5&bodyID=7&typeID=15&system=Jupiter&body=Io&type=Fluctus,%20fluct%C5%ABs&sort=AName&show=Fname&show=Lat&show=Long&show=Diam&show=Stat&show=Orig Io].

==Problématiques ==
*Should other bodies be included in ''geo'', or have stand-alone microformats?
*What effect will this have on existing 'geo' parsers, and it is safe to ignore that?
*What appropriate schemas exist?
**Lunar: Mean Earth Polar Axis
**??
*''Luna'' is the scientific name for Earth's moon. Should we use that, or reserve "''Moon''"?
*Is it appropriate to use the name "geo" (which means "Earth") for other bodies?
*is ''body '' an acceptable class name, given that it's also an HTML element?

==Commentaires==
===thare===
Commentaires de [[User:PlanetGeo| thare]]
*geo does stand for Earth but it has previously been generalized for the planetary case. For example, the term geology is used for planetary bodies.
*using ''body'' is fine by me and do not see a conflict as an HTML element.
*by schema do you mean a natural surficial property like earthquake, volcano, or crater? Or do you also want to include man-made items building, house, landing site?
**No, I mean, for example, WGS84, or the Martian or lunar equivalents. Is "schema" perhaps the wrong word?. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
*I would suggest just using "''Moon''". For other spellings for planetary bodies I would look toward the IAU/IAG documentation (an international working group) [http://astrogeology.usgs.gov/Projects/WGCCRE/ IAU/IAG Working Group (WG) on Cartographic Coordinates and Rotational Elements]
*Since this is a simple case, I tried to stay away from this issue but just can't. What does Earth really mean? There a many definitions for the size of Earth that need to be resolved when using lat/lon coordinates. Is the size of the Earth defined by the WGS84 or NAD27 definition? For Mars, is it the definition used in 1991 or redefined in 2000? This has previously been solved in web GIS applications by using an "EPSG" code. For planetary bodies we are attempting to define a similar coded standard which currently is called the IAU2000 code or namespace. Thus for Mars the code might be IAU2000:49900.
**Hence 'schema'. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
*still working - more later
**Thank you. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
===Autres===
*???

==Pages apparentées==
{{geo-related-pages-fr}}

==See also==
[http://www.theregister.com/2006/12/19/nasa_4_google/ NASA shares space with Google] (2006-12-20)