Tantek: citation context

2012-08-07T01:17:55Z

citation context

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			Part of the [[citation]] microformat effort. Mostly historical at this point. Perhaps still useful to see where things started simple originally, and where we've evolved/iterated to since.

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<h1>hBib: une charette</h1>
<p><em>an interactive design session</em></p>

<h2>Authors</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://tantek.com/log/" target="_blank">Tantek Çelik</a></li>

<li><a href="#0.0_">Rohit Khare</a></li>
<li><a href="http://meyerweb.com/" target="_blank">Eric A. Meyer</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.markbaker.ca" target="_blank">Mark Baker</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.wiredpen.com/" target="_blank">Kathy Gill</a></li>
<li>Bert Bos
<li>Nicholas Gibbins

<li> ***** add your hcard here *****</li>

<li>& other participants from the Microformats track on Dev Day at WWW 2005</li>

</li></li></ul>

<h2>Goals</h2>
<ol>
<li><strong>Stop having to re-key references!</strong></li>
<li>Adapt to new Journal styles solely by changing the CSS?</li>
</ol>

<h2>Why a Microformat?</h2>
<ol>
<li><strong>Presentation matters!</strong></li>
<li>A predecessor format exists:
<ul>
<li>BibTeX</li>
<li>Endnote</li>
<li>Dublin Core</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ol>

<hr>
<strong>the microformats way</strong>
<ul><li>
solve a specific problem
</li><li>
make evolutionary improvements
</li><li>
be as simple as possible, perhaps solve a simpler problem first
</li><li>
adapt to current behaviors and usage patterns, e.g. (X)HTML, blogging
</li><li>
presentable <em>and</em> parsable
</li><li>
reuse existing microformats and well established schemas (e.g. IETF RFCs) as building blocks
</li><li>
design to be reused and embedded inside existing formats and microformats
</li><li>
enable and encourage decentralized development and services
</li> </ul>
<hr>

<h2>Fundamental Problem</h2>
<p> There are hundreds of journal-specific formats for presenting bibliographic data. <strong>If CSS cannot transform structured biblographic information into at least 80% of the presentation format, the Microformats way fails. <em>Microformats is fundamentally tied to CSS; what CSS cannot express, Microformats cannot encode into XHTML.</em></strong>

<p> We discussed some ways of getting around the "et al." problem of hiding additional authors. We even used ABBR to preserve full-names. But what about putting the article-name in front of the journal, and vice-versa?

<p>If we have to invoke XSLT to handle cases where elements need to be re-ordered to present them, then the "is the jig up"?

<h2> Solutions?</h2>
<br>Author -- should use hCard. OK
<br>Mulitple authors? Multiple hCards.
<p> et al.?
<br> use hidden SPANs?
<br> use CSS classes for k-authors: 1st-author, 2nd-author? generic "author" class?
<pre>
.author + .author + .author + .author {display: none}
.author + .author + .author {content: " et al."}
</pre>

<p>using Dublin Core terminology
<br>(which edition? Creator, sure, but Translator came later...)
<br> how to "loft" dc:author inot microformats use in CSS class= attrs? -- <em>create an XMDP for Dublin Core (creator, etc)</em>

<h2> Existing Example</h2>
<p>Let's start with a concrete example of a particular bibliography presentation
</p>
<pre>
[1] Goland, Y. Y., Nottingham, M. and Orchard, D. WS-CallBack Protocol 0.91.
BEA Systems, WS-CallBack Protocol 0.91, Feb 26 2003 2003.
<a href="http://dev2dev.bea.com/technologies/webservices/WS-CallBack-0_9.jsp" target="_blank">http://dev2dev.bea.com/<WBR>technologies/webservices/WS-<WBR>CallBack-0_9.jsp</a>
</pre>

<p>How would we mark that up?</p>

<pre>
<span class="vcard">
<span class="fn n">
<span class="family-name "<Goland</span>,
<abbr class="given-name" title="Yaron">Y.</abbr>
</span>
</span>
...
</pre>

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Tantek: citation context

Tantek: copy pasted from Rohit's hBib Discussion.html file