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		<title>Tantek: /* Responding to rude emails */ paren</title>
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		<updated>2011-07-01T03:20:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Responding to rude emails: &lt;/span&gt; paren&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;We need everyone's help to keep the community civil and friendly (see [[mailing-list#Be_nice|be nice]] in the mailing list guidelines, however, sometimes someone will say something rude on the email list. In such cases it is useful to have a set of pre-written responses to make it easier to deal with. Here are a few actual examples with responses you may use:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;We need everyone's help to keep the community civil and friendly (see [[mailing-list#Be_nice|be nice]] in the mailing list guidelines&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;)&lt;/ins&gt;, however, sometimes someone will say something rude on the email list. In such cases it is useful to have a set of pre-written responses to make it easier to deal with. Here are a few actual examples with responses you may use:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Tantek: drafted based on rude email from Derrick Pallas</title>
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		<updated>2011-07-01T03:19:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;drafted based on rude email from Derrick Pallas&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;= Responding to rude emails =&lt;br /&gt;
We need everyone's help to keep the community civil and friendly (see [[mailing-list#Be_nice|be nice]] in the mailing list guidelines, however, sometimes someone will say something rude on the email list. In such cases it is useful to have a set of pre-written responses to make it easier to deal with. Here are a few actual examples with responses you may use:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== unsubstantiated claim of repeated issue ==&lt;br /&gt;
Example rude text:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;something many people talked about on microformats.org for years. A few years ago it was brought up on a regular basis by newcomers, about twice a year.&amp;quot; -[http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2011-June/013414.html]&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Response:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
If something was &amp;quot;brought up on a regular basis by newcomers&amp;quot;, &lt;br /&gt;
provide the URLs.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== false claim of excluding newcomers ==&lt;br /&gt;
Example rude text:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;newcomers were then driven out of the community.&amp;quot; -[http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2011-June/013414.html]&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Response:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
No one was &amp;quot;driven out&amp;quot;. We've had to ban a few trolls for negative behaviors &lt;br /&gt;
for fixed periods of time, but haven't had to do any such thing &lt;br /&gt;
for over a year (maybe 2) now.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== empty claims of use-cases ==&lt;br /&gt;
Example rude text:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;I had actual parsing uses-cases for such a feature as well as&lt;br /&gt;
publishing use-cases&amp;quot; -[http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2011-June/013414.html]&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Response:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
If you had &amp;quot;actual parsing uses-cases for such a feature &lt;br /&gt;
as well as publishing use-cases&amp;quot;, at what URL did you document them?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== name-calling elitism ==&lt;br /&gt;
Example rude text:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Not everyone tried to follow the process but I did, to the same end. After everything, the elitism of uf.org turned me off to the whole effort.&amp;quot; -[http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2011-June/013414.html]&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Response:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
If you consider requiring documentation on the web/wiki and &lt;br /&gt;
being rigorous as &amp;quot;elitism of uf.org&amp;quot; then, yes, &lt;br /&gt;
you're not going to be very productive.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== name-calling cabal ==&lt;br /&gt;
Example rude text:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;I decided not to waste my time trying to be in the cabal.&amp;quot; -[http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2011-June/013414.html]&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Response:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Developing microformats is not for everyone - &lt;br /&gt;
only those that are willing to document their work and &lt;br /&gt;
be scientific in their methods. &lt;br /&gt;
If you consider &amp;quot;science&amp;quot; to be a cabal, &lt;br /&gt;
then you're not going to find much sympathy and &lt;br /&gt;
should take your name-calling elsewhere.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== related ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[mailing-list]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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