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Brian: Reverted edits by AllieLtrle (Talk) to last version by TobyInk

2008-12-20T21:55:48Z

Reverted edits by AllieLtrle (Talk) to last version by TobyInk

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	== Authors ==		== Authors ==

	* Tantek ~~Ãelik~~		* Tantek Çelik
	* Ed Summers		* Ed Summers

AllieLtrle: roorbotr

2008-12-20T01:18:18Z

roorbotr

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	* Tantek ~~Çelik~~		* Tantek Ãelik
	* Ed Summers		* Ed Summers

TobyInk: /* Experience */ rel=meta

2008-03-29T15:08:52Z

Experience: rel=meta

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	* It would be useful for autodiscovery puposes to be able to follow a network resolvabale UID and extract more metadata from the referenced UID. Having a well defined UID pattern would prevent an explosion of rel values: rel-vcard, rel-vevent, etc.		* It would be useful for autodiscovery puposes to be able to follow a network resolvabale UID and extract more metadata from the referenced UID. Having a well defined UID pattern would prevent an explosion of rel values: rel-vcard, rel-vevent, etc.
			** [http://www.google.com/search?q=rel+meta rel=meta] can be used to suggest that additional relevant metadata can be found by following a link. This is often used to link to RDF files, but rel values aren't restricted to any particular MIME types - an HTML document could acceptably be linked to.

	* Efforts such as [http://unapi.info unAPI] have a real need for marking up identifiers so that they can be used for retrieving identified objects.		* Efforts such as [http://unapi.info unAPI] have a real need for marking up identifiers so that they can be used for retrieving identified objects.

TobyInk: /* HTML ID attribute */ Describe cognition algorithm for finding UIDs.

2008-03-20T11:54:15Z

HTML ID attribute: Describe cognition algorithm for finding UIDs.

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	How does/doesn't the ID attribute from HTML fit into all this? Can it be repurposed to help here?		How does/doesn't the ID attribute from HTML fit into all this? Can it be repurposed to help here?

			* Yes. Here's what I ([[User:TobyInk\|TobyInk]]) use for hCard and hCalendar:
			*# If the object has an element with class="uid" and that element links somewhere (e.g. <a href>, <img src>) then the linked URL is the UID;
			*# Otherwise, if the element with class="uid" has an ID attribute set, then the page's URL followed by "#", followed by the ID attribute is the UID;
			*# Otherwise, use the content of the element with class="uid", respecting the ABBR pattern.
			*# If there is no element with class="uid", then if the root element of the microformatted object (e.g. <div class="vcard">) has an ID attribute set, then the page's URL followed by "#", followed by the ID attribute is the UID;
			*# Otherwise, there is no UID for this object. The processor {{may}} generate its own UID if the presence of a UID is necessary for further processing.

	== Proposals ==		== Proposals ==

AndyMabbett: issn

2008-01-28T14:16:31Z

issn

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	== See Also ==		== See Also ==
	* [[isbn]]		* [[isbn]] (and [[issn]])
	* [http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-namespaces IANA URN Namespaces - RFC2141, RFC3406]		* [http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-namespaces IANA URN Namespaces - RFC2141, RFC3406]
	* [http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes.html IANA Uniform Resource Identifer (URI) Schemes]		* [http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes.html IANA Uniform Resource Identifer (URI) Schemes]

DenisDefreyne: Adding link to isbn page

2007-08-06T11:19:01Z

Adding link to isbn page

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	== See Also ==		== See Also ==
			* [[isbn]]
	* [http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-namespaces IANA URN Namespaces - RFC2141, RFC3406]		* [http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-namespaces IANA URN Namespaces - RFC2141, RFC3406]
	* [http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes.html IANA Uniform Resource Identifer (URI) Schemes]		* [http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes.html IANA Uniform Resource Identifer (URI) Schemes]

BenjaminCarlyle: Fix formatting

2006-05-05T02:16:28Z

Fix formatting

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	== Thoughts ==		== Thoughts ==

	== UID + SOURCE -> permalink? ==		=== UID + SOURCE -> permalink? ===
	URL is used in hcalendar examples to point not to the permalink of the vevent, but to the permalink for the event home page. If the event home page contains the authorative hcalendar entry, that's fine. Alternatively the source attribute could be borrowed from vcard to mean "microformat permalink" instead of "permalink of the thing the microformat is about".		URL is used in hcalendar examples to point not to the permalink of the vevent, but to the permalink for the event home page. If the event home page contains the authorative hcalendar entry, that's fine. Alternatively the source attribute could be borrowed from vcard to mean "microformat permalink" instead of "permalink of the thing the microformat is about".

BenjaminCarlyle: Add UID + SOURCE option

2006-05-05T02:15:31Z

Add UID + SOURCE option

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	== Thoughts ==		== Thoughts ==

			== UID + SOURCE -> permalink? ==
			URL is used in hcalendar examples to point not to the permalink of the vevent, but to the permalink for the event home page. If the event home page contains the authorative hcalendar entry, that's fine. Alternatively the source attribute could be borrowed from vcard to mean "microformat permalink" instead of "permalink of the thing the microformat is about".

			There seems to be a conflict between iCalendar and vCard rfcs as to what a url is. iCalendar says permalink of iCalendar object. vCard says identifying url (eg home page) of the person or object the vCard is about. vCard uses "source" for iCalendar's "url".

	=== UIDs that are URLs ===		=== UIDs that are URLs ===

BenjaminCarlyle: Add hAtom reference

2006-04-30T22:28:02Z

Add hAtom reference

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	* [[adr]]		* [[adr]]
	* [[geo]]		* [[geo]]
			* [[hatom\|hAtom]]
	* [[hcard\|hCard]]		* [[hcard\|hCard]]
	* [[hcalendar\|hCalendar]]		* [[hcalendar\|hCalendar]]

BenjaminCarlyle: Add rel-bookmark proposal

2006-04-30T22:26:59Z

Add rel-bookmark proposal

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	* Since microformats are about things published on the Web, we can say:		* Since microformats are about things published on the Web, we can say:
	** UIDs SHOULD be URLs and if you cannot use a URL (for whatever reason), then you SHOULD at least use a URI, thereby indicating our preference for UIDs which can be resolved to a network location, and barring that, UIDs which follow the URN registry.		** UIDs SHOULD be URLs and if you cannot use a URL (for whatever reason), then you SHOULD at least use a URI, thereby indicating our preference for UIDs which can be resolved to a network location, and barring that, UIDs which follow the URN registry.

			=== Use rel-bookmark from hAtom ===
			hAtom currently uses the HTML standard rel-bookmark to identify its bookmark. This appears to be precisely eqivalent to the class combination "uid url". This does not appear to permit non-url uids, but if we are identifying the authorative id of a piece of microformatted data that we already have in-hand a non-url uid may never be required. Non-url uids (eg isbn) can still appear in citation formats without affecting the development of this "identify myself" microformat.

			If rel-bookmark is not appropriate for this format, we should consider retrofiting this format back to hAtom. It may be appropriate to replace rel-bookmark with the separate url and uid classes, or to allow either form to be used.

	=== Create a URI microformat ===		=== Create a URI microformat ===