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<Log FirstSessionID="1" LastSessionID="1">
<Log FirstSessionID="1" LastSessionID="1">
  <Join Date="9/12/2004" Time="6:48:20 PM" DateTime="2004-09-12T23:48:20.716Z" SessionID="1">
  <Join Date="9/12/2004" Time="6:48:20 PM" DateTime="2004-09-12T23:48:20.716Z" SessionID="1">
   <User FriendlyName="'' Quando não tem oq se ama...É preciso amar oq se tem!!! ''"/>
   <User FriendlyName="'' Quando não tem oq se ama...É preciso amar oq se tem!!! ''"/>
   <Text Style="color:#008000; ">
   <Text Style="color:#008000; ">
   '' Quando não tem oq se ama...É preciso amar oq se tem!!! '' has been added to the conversation.
   '' Quando não tem oq se ama...É preciso amar oq se tem!!! '' has been added to the conversation.
   </Text>
   </Text>
  </Join>
  </Join>
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   <User FriendlyName="http://commo.de/StupidPeople/"/>
   <User FriendlyName="http://commo.de/StupidPeople/"/>
   <User FriendlyName=":@TE ODEIO:@"/>
   <User FriendlyName=":@TE ODEIO:@"/>
   <User FriendlyName="|I{•------»Victor«------•}I|1 2 3 o corh fregueis! -LLUSSAA EOOOO"/>
   <User FriendlyName="|I{•------»Victor«------•}I|1 2 3 o corh fregueis! -LLUSSAA EOOOO"/>
   <User FriendlyName="&quot;Tô com sono!!! Acho que vo durmi!!!&quot;"/>
   <User FriendlyName="&quot;Tô com sono!!! Acho que vo durmi!!!&quot;"/>
   <User FriendlyName="||||Gabriel||||| A Clockwork Orange.."/>
   <User FriendlyName="||||Gabriel||||| A Clockwork Orange.."/>
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==campfirenow.com==
<pre>
<table class="chat">
        <tbody id="chat">
          <tr class="timestamp_message message" id="message_2520523" style="">
  <td class="date"><span>Apr 26</span></td>
  <td class="time"><div>2:10 PM</div></td>
</tr>
<tr class="system_message message" id="message_2520524" style="">
  <td class="person">&nbsp;</td>
  <td class="body"><div>The transcript has been cleared</div></td>
</tr>
<tr class="timestamp_message message" id="message_2520953" style="">
  <td class="date"><span style="display:none">Apr 26</span></td>
  <td class="time"><div>2:20 PM</div></td>
</tr>
<tr class="system_message message" id="message_2520954" style="">
  <td class="person">&nbsp;</td>
  <td class="body"><div>The transcript has been cleared</div></td>
</tr>
<tr class="enter_message message user_52792" id="message_2521028" style="">
  <td class="person">Scott R.</td>
  <td class="body"><div>has entered the room</div></td>
</tr>
<tr class="text_message message user_52792 you" id="message_2521046" style="">
  <td class="person"><span>Scott R.</span></td>
  <td class="body"><div>so....chat...</div></td>
</tr>
        </tbody>
      </table>
</pre>


==Live Chat Examples==
==Live Chat Examples==

Revision as of 19:32, 26 April 2006

chat examples

Examples of how chat transcripts are marked up currently, with the idea of moving towards a microformat for marking up logs/archives of chat sessions (IRC etc.) that are posted on the Web. Next steps are documenting chat-formats, and doing some chat-brainstorming.

Contributors

IRC transcripts

These are plaintext logs with space separated fields, so are posted wrapped in <pre>

12:06 Tantek: what does the datetime stamp represent?
12:07 KevinMarks: in iRC, when it was said
12:07 Tantek: is it a point in time *before* they started speaking?
12:07 Tantek: or *after*?
12:07 Tantek: or somewhere in the *middle*?
12:07 KevinMarks: usually it is quantised to seconds
12:07 KevinMarks: and it is time the msg was received
12:07 Tantek: but the second they started typing or pressed return?
12:08 KevinMarks: prssed return i think

Or as plaintext + <br> (eg http://chocnvodka.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2005/8/25/1169654.html)

(22:20) gturneruk: oh, i just remembered. windows 95 is ten years old today
(22:22) Suw: good god. i mean, i shouldn't be surprised, it being 2005 and all. but still, where did that time go?
(22:22) gturneruk: lost clusters
(22:23) Suw: i obviously need to defrag

xChat2 log format

**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 14 04:36:29 2003

May 14 04:36:29 -->     You are now talking on #test
May 14 04:36:29 ---     Topic for #test is Test Topic
May 14 04:36:29 ---     Topic for #test set by nick1 at Thu May  8 18:45:05
May 14 04:58:45 ---     You are now known as nick1
May 14 05:03:44 -->     nick1 (~nick1@2.1.3.narf-42905) has joined #test
May 14 05:05:48 <nick1> test message
May 14 05:10:24 *       nick1 test action
May 14 05:11:19 <--     nick1 has quit (quit)

**** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jul  4 00:28:22 2003

Snak log format

Log file opened at: 5/26/04 12:00:11 AM
[12:00:11:] nick1: test message
[12:10:29:] * nick1 test action
[12:13:16:] ***: nick2 (~nick2@test.net) has joined the channel
[12:20:35:] ***: nick2 has quit IRC ("Computer going to sleep...")
[12:21:31:] ***: You have joined the channel
Log file closed at: 5/26/04 2:29:08 AM

iChat transcripts

iChat handles timestamps differently, inserting them between statement blocks, every 5 minutes.

12:25 AM
Reconnecting to tantekatwork…
Kevin Marks: So, iChat shows timestamps between entries
Tantek: yes
Tantek: what about Adium?
12:30 AM
Kevin Marks: my copy is 230 days old...

Bash.org

Bash.org and other QDBs collect funny IRC transcripts and let people vote on them. They use plaintext + <br />, wrapped in <p> http://bash.org/?23396

<Donut[AFK]> HEY EURAKARTE
<Donut[AFK]> INSULT
<Eurakarte> RETORT
<Donut[AFK]> COUNTER-RETORT
<Eurakarte> QUESTIONING OF SEXUAL PREFERENCE
<Donut[AFK]> SUGGESTION TO SHUT THE FUCK UP
<Eurakarte> NOTATION THAT YOU CREATE A VACUUM
<Donut[AFK]> RIPOSTE
<Donut[AFK]> ADDON RIPOSTE
<Eurakarte> COUNTER-RIPOSTE
<Donut[AFK]> COUNTER-COUNTER RIPOSTE
<Eurakarte> NONSENSICAL STATEMENT INVOLVING PLANKTON
<Miles_Prower> RESPONSE TO RANDOM STATEMENT AND THREAT TO BAN OPPOSING SIDES
<Eurakarte> WORDS OF PRAISE FOR FISHFOOD
<Miles_Prower> ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND ACCEPTENCE OF TERMS

Log Library

Log Library displays a tabular format with divs

<div class="row" name="GusVanNos">
   <div class="timestamp">18:36:28</div>
   <div class="nick"><GusVanNos></div> 
   <div class="message">.+. is a lazy way of saying .{2,}</div>
</div>

<div class="row" name="jawong">
    <div class="timestamp">18:36:48</div>
    <div class="nick"><jawong></div>
    <div class="message">your model is waaaay better, xal.</div>
</div>
  • row
    • timestamp
    • nick
    • message

JWZ

http://www.jwz.org/hacks/irc2html.pl was used to generate the irc logs for Bar Camp Dallas : http://barcamp.org/f/barcampdallas-irc.html

<table bgcolor="#ffffff">
 <tbody>
  <tr>
   <td bgcolor="#eeeeee" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top">
    <font color="#000000">
     <i>[2006/01/28 11:21:34] </i>
    </font>
   </td>
   <td bgcolor="#eeeeee" valign="top">
    <font color="#000000">
     <i>@ jdunck joined channel #barcampdallas</i>
    </font>
   </td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
   <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top">
    <font color="#000000">
     <i>[2006/01/28 11:21:40] </i>
    </font>
   </td>
   <td valign="top">
    <font color="#000000">
     <i><tantek> is there a subethaedit-compatible client on windows?</i>
   </font>
  </td>
 </tr>
 ...

MSN Messenger XML Format Logs

Examples at: http://stupidpeople.commo.de/logs/After%20August%202004/, there are a bunch there but not sure how widespread it is. General structure appears to be a Log element wrapper, with toplevel Join and Message elements. It's a little strange how the To element has children indicating all the recepients, normally that would be implicit, but there may be a reason that isn't clear just from this example. Original posting for example: http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2006-February/002937.html Note that these get published with a stylesheet that makes them viewable directly, they appear to be human-directed.

<Log FirstSessionID="1" LastSessionID="1">
 <Join Date="9/12/2004" Time="6:48:20 PM" DateTime="2004-09-12T23:48:20.716Z" SessionID="1">
  <User FriendlyName="'' Quando não tem oq se ama...É preciso amar oq se tem!!! ''"/>
  <Text Style="color:#008000; ">
   '' Quando não tem oq se ama...É preciso amar oq se tem!!! '' has been added to the conversation.
  </Text>
 </Join>
 <Message Date="9/12/2004" Time="6:48:20 PM" DateTime="2004-09-12T23:48:20.846Z" SessionID="1">
  <From>
   <User FriendlyName="Você vive inventando maneiras pra dizer semp pra dizer que me quer!!"/>
  </From>
  <To>
   <User FriendlyName="http://commo.de/StupidPeople/"/>
   <User FriendlyName=":@TE ODEIO:@"/>
   <User FriendlyName="|I{•------»Victor«------•}I|1 2 3 o corh fregueis! -LLUSSAA EOOOO"/>
   <User FriendlyName=""Tô com sono!!! Acho que vo durmi!!!""/>
   <User FriendlyName="||||Gabriel||||| A Clockwork Orange.."/>
   <User FriendlyName="Pensar para acertar, Calar para resistir, Agir para vencer"/>
   <User FriendlyName="*>.Jessy.<*genteeeeeeeemmmmmmm..trokeiser  tá  aqui:09098217635!!!"/>
  </To>
  <Text Style="font-family:Sylfaen; color:#ff0000; ">
   nossa qnta gente
  </Text>
 </Message>
</Log>
  • Log
    • Join
      • User
        • FriendlyName
      • Text
    • Message
      • From
        • User
      • To
        • User*
      • Text

MSN Messenger Marked Up By Anne van Kesteren

Found at: http://annevankesteren.nl/2005/10/msn-sessions

<nowiki>
<p>Late night <abbr title="Microsoft Network">MSN</abbr> sessions…
<ol class="conversation">
 <li>
  <cite>zcorpan</cite>
  <q><code><form></code> does not imply <code><body></code> in <abbr title="Internet Explorer">IE</abbr>6</q>

 
 <li>
  <cite>anne</cite>
  <q>interesting</q>
 
 <li>
  <cite>zcorpan</cite>
 <q>it’s worse…</q>
 
 <li>

  <cite>zcorpan</cite>
  <blockquote><pre><!DOCTYPE html>
<title>001</title>
<style>
 div { position:relative; }
 form { width:40em; }
</style>
<div>

 <form>
  <p>test
 </form>
</div>
  • zcorpan innerHTML for that:
  • zcorpan
    <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>001</TITLE>
    <STYLE>
     div { position:relative; }
     form { width:40em; }
    </STYLE>
    
    <FORM></HEAD>
    <BODY>
    <DIV>
    <P>test </FORM></P></DIV></BODY></HTML>
  • anne ah, totally IE
  • zcorpan the contents of the div are invisible
  • anne hmm…
  • anne o well
  • anne debugging that sucks
  • anne emulating it might be cool
  • anne building IE again
  • zcorpan the thought of it hurts my brains
  • zcorpan javascript:alert(document.getElementsByTagName("!")[0].nodeValue)
  • anne you’re so crazy
  • zcorpan try that in a document that has a doctype declaration, with IE
  • anne heh

    Later on:

    1. zcorpan how can a node that is nodeType 8 be returned by getElementsByTagName?
    2. anne euh, good question
    </nowiki>
    • Analysis TBD

    ILRT Logger Bot Format

    Found at: http://chatlogs.planetrdf.com/swig/, generated by: http://cvs.ilrt.org/cvsweb/redland/logger/, there are three formats: HTML, plain text, and RDF. The RDF format is described on the chat-formats page, this entry discussed the HTML and plain text files, as they appear to be directed at people.

    <div class="log">
     <p>
      <span class="time" id="T00-27-42"><a href="#T00-27-42">00:27:42</a></span>
      <span class="nick"><CaptSolo></span>
      <span class="comment">Gromgull: nice quote re. x years later</span>
     </p>
     <p>
      <span class="time" id="T00-27-57"><a href="#T00-27-57">00:27:57</a></span>
      <span class="nick"><CaptSolo></span>
      <span class="comment">Gromgull: what could one do with those 17mb of invalid n3?</span>
     </p>
     <p>
      <span class="time" id="T01-38-48"><a href="#T01-38-48">01:38:48</a></span>
      <span class="nick"><karlUshi></span>
      <span class="comment">
       <a href="http://aaronland.info/python/pyupcoming/">
        http://aaronland.info/python/pyupcoming/
       </a>
      </span>
     </p>
    </div>
    
    • log
      • time
      • nick
      • comment
        • href?

    Trillian Format

    This is for an AIM chat, but one for a Yahoo! chat looks the same. It is saved as plaintext as well as XML. (user1 is local). This is a description of the plaintext format.

    Session Start (user1:user2): Fri Apr 01 17:43:06 2005
    [17:43] user2: ping
    [17:43] *** Auto-response sent to user2: My hovercraft is full of eels.
    [17:46] user1: hey
    Session Close (user2): Fri Apr 01 17:47:00 2005
    
    • log
      • timestamp
      • modifier? user
      • message

    Skype Format

    When viewing archived conversations, this is what you get... What's up definition lists...? Oh yes!

    <p>
      Created on 2006-02-02 17:00:41.
    </p>
    <dl>
      <dd>
        <h3>
          2005-10-11
        </h3>
      </dd>
      <dt class="remote">
        <a href="callto://" title="[rUsername]">Brian Oberkirch</a>: <span>14:58:25</span>
      </dt>
      <dd>
        Chris
      </dd>
      <dt class="remote">
        <a href="callto://[rUsername]" title="[rUsername]">Brian Oberkirch</a>: <span>14:58:27</span>
      </dt>
      <dd>
        http://www.web20show.com/articles/2005/10/10/episode-3
      </dd>
      <dt class="local">
        Chris Messina: <span>14:58:41</span>
      </dt>
      <dd>
        ok
      </dd>
      <dt class="remote">
        <a href="callto://[rUsername]" title="[rUsername]">Brian Oberkirch</a>: <span>14:58:45</span>
      </dt>
      <dd>
        These guys mention your comment on the 37s thread during their podcast
      </dd>
      <dt class="local">
        Chris Messina: <span>14:58:51</span>
      </dt>
      <dd>
        seriously!?
      </dd>
      <dt class="local">
        Chris Messina: <span>14:58:52</span>
      </dt>
      <dd>
        ack
      </dd>
      <dt class="remote">
        <a href="callto://[rUsername]" title="[rUsername]">Brian Oberkirch</a>: <span>14:59:04</span>
      </dt>
      <dd>
        It's what it says in the transcript
      </dd>
    </dl>
    

    campfirenow.com

    <table class="chat">
            <tbody id="chat">
              <tr class="timestamp_message message" id="message_2520523" style="">
      <td class="date"><span>Apr 26</span></td>
      <td class="time"><div>2:10 PM</div></td>
    </tr>
    
    <tr class="system_message message" id="message_2520524" style="">
      <td class="person"> </td>
      <td class="body"><div>The transcript has been cleared</div></td>
    </tr>
    
    <tr class="timestamp_message message" id="message_2520953" style="">
      <td class="date"><span style="display:none">Apr 26</span></td>
      <td class="time"><div>2:20 PM</div></td>
    </tr>
    
    <tr class="system_message message" id="message_2520954" style="">
      <td class="person"> </td>
      <td class="body"><div>The transcript has been cleared</div></td>
    </tr>
    
    <tr class="enter_message message user_52792" id="message_2521028" style="">
      <td class="person">Scott R.</td>
      <td class="body"><div>has entered the room</div></td>
    </tr>
    <tr class="text_message message user_52792 you" id="message_2521046" style="">
      <td class="person"><span>Scott R.</span></td>
      <td class="body"><div>so....chat...</div></td>
    </tr>
    
            </tbody>
          </table>
    

    Live Chat Examples

    See Also