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This proposal means that on the whole nothing new is needed for a [[comment]] microformat, just use [[hatom|hAtom]], but instead of using [[rel-bookmark]] use [http://gmpg.org/xfn/11 XFN] [[rel-contact]].
This proposal means that on the whole nothing new is needed for a [[comment]] microformat, just use [[hatom|hAtom]], but instead of using [[rel-bookmark]] use [http://gmpg.org/xfn/11 XFN] [[rel-contact]] .
Revision as of 10:24, 14 November 2008
Brainstorming for a Comment Microformat
This is a brainstorm for comment microformat. Examples of a comment can be found here comment-examples
Shortform: How do you track blog comments you've made?
Longform: How do track the comments you have made on blogs, comments made on blogs your interested in and comments other people have made on your own blog?
How can you do this in a pragmatic way, ingested into some kind of data store, searched or aggregated?
Based on the analysis of 25 real world examples of a comment, the results can be found at the Comment Analysis section
The following properties occur most regularly across all examples (92% or more)
- author (name)100%
- comment (text) 100%
- published (date) 100%
- author-url (href) 92%
Other achievable elements
- comment-link (a permalink) 40%
- hentry (a container element for a comment entry)
- author (author)100%
- an Entry Author element MUST be encoded in an hCard
- url (author-url) 92%
- Use the url value of a hCard 1.0
- entry-content (comment) 100%
- The "logical Entry Content" of an Entry is the concatenation, in order of appearance, of all the Entry Contents within the Entry
- updated (date) 100%
- contact (comment-link) 40%
- Someone you know how to get in touch with, rel-contact is a two way link type (symmetric), comments on a web page are generally a way of contact between the author of a page and the publisher of a comment.
<div class="hentry" id="comment-001"> <span class="author vcard"> <span class="entry-title"><a class="url fn" href="http://contributor.com/blog/">Author</a> said</span> </span> about <span class="updated" title="2008-09-01T14:40:45+01:00">72 days ago</span>, <div class="entry-content"> <p>Hey Great Post</p> </div> <a rel="contact bookmark" href="#comment-001">link to this</a> </div>
If we can indicate that the hAtom entries are also comments, we could add an indicator beside hAtom.
<div class="hfeed hcomment"> hAtom pattern goes here. </div>
Alternatively, we could add
hentry to indicate that the following hentry can be treated also as a comment.
<div class="hentry hcomment"> hEntry pattern goes here. </div>
--Sarven Capadisli 11:59, 25 Sep 2008 (PDT)
- If an hfeed is embedded in an hEntry, that could be enough context to show "these items are replies to the one they're embedded in" singpolyma 12:20, 25 Sep 2008 (PDT)
hAtom and in-reply-to
A user comment (e.g., in blogs, wikis, forms) can be marked as an hAtom since it has a similar content pattern. A way to differentiate an hEntry (e.g., a blog post) from another hEntry (e.g., a user comment) can be done reusing in-reply-to from Atom Threading Extensions. It provides a mechanism to indicate that an entry is a response to another resource. rel="in-reply-to" can indicate that the current hEntry is a reply to another hEntry and has a reference point @href:
<a rel="in-reply-to" href="#comment_20080902144745">Parent</a>
hEntries that use rel="in-reply-to" can be considered as a comment entry in response to a parent entry in the threaded conversation (e.g., in blogs, wikis, forms).
hEntries that are chronologically listed can all use rel="in-reply-to" and refer to the root hEntry (e.g., blog post, form post)
Example comment using in-reply-to: http://www.csarven.ca/my-responses-are-in-white
--Sarven Capadisli 21:25, 3 Oct 2008 (PDT)