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= Exemples de Conversation Distribuée =
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Ceci est une page d'explication pour documenter les différentes méthodes utilisées pour annoter les conversations en ligne qu'elles soient distribuées ou non. L'objectif des études de cette page est de servir d'arrière-plan pour la conception d'un microformat destiné à annoter les conversations distribués sur les blogs et d'autres médias en ligne.
Ceci est une page d'explication pour documenter les différentes méthodes utilisées pour annoter les conversations en ligne qu'elles soient distribuées ou non. L'objectif des études de cette page est de servir d'arrière-plan pour la conception d'un microformat destiné à annoter les conversations distribués sur les blogs et d'autres médias en ligne.
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=== Author, href et blockquote ===
=== Author, href et blockquote ===
  <p>Son article a été repiqué partout sur le web, y compris par Danny Ayers. Il
    plonge dans une discussion à propos de
    <a href="http://dannyayers.com/archives/2006/01/10/new-data-languages-harmful/">
        la manière de construire un modèle RDF
    </a>
    ,plutôt qu'un langage XML :
  </p>
  &lt;blockquote>
    &lt;p>
    En travaillant avec RDF, mon pressentiment actuel (pourrait être faux ;-) est que dans
la plupart des cas, c'est probablement mieux de produire initialement une nouvelle représentation qui correspond au modèle de domaine tant que c'est possible (/approprié).
Puis commencez à regarder à remplacer les nouveaux termes avec des termes établis avec une sémantique correspondante. Mais ne voyez pas le fait de réutiliser des choses comme quelque chose de plus important que d'obtenir un modèle pertinent (approprié). (Différentes approches sont probablement amenés à être meilleures pour différents cas, mais en tant que vague guide je pense que ça marche.)
  &lt;/p>
  &lt;/blockquote>
[http://www.soundadvice.id.au/blog/2006/01/15/#xmlLanguages source]
Danny Ayers est l'auteur des contenus étant référencés. Le href identifie un article dont vient la citation. "Comment construire un modèle RDF" peut être considéré comme une description courte du lien, néanmoins parfois ce texte est aussi court que "écrit".
=== Attribut cite dans blockquote ou quote ===
Extrait de <cite>[http://decafbad.com/blog/2006/01/19/use-delicious-to-build-share-reading-listes 0xdecafbad de Les Orcahrd]</cite>:
  &lt;blockquote cite="http://vrypan.net/log/archives/2006/01/19/delicious-as-fedd-manager/">A la limite de ma connaissance, l'outil de gestion de liens le plus populaire est del.icio.us, un outil que j'aime pour sa puissance et sa simplicité. del.icio.us vous permet d'exporter tous vos liens dans RSS ce qui est cool. Par conséquent, j'ai écrit un script rapide et sale qui converti cet export RSS vers une liste OPML (voir à la la fin de ce billet).&lt;/blockquote>
 
  &lt;p>&lt;small style="text-align: right; display: block;">
      Source: &lt;a href="http://vrypan.net/log/archives/2006/01/19/delicious-as-fedd-manager/">
        vrypan|net|log » del.icio.us en tant que gestionnaire de fils
      &lt;/a>
  &lt;/small>&lt;/p>
L'attribut cite du tag blockquote est défini dans beaucoup de standards mais n'est pas bien supporté par les navigateurs et est par conséquent caché à l'utilisateur. Ceci oblige l'auteur à répéter plus tard sa valeur, sous la forme d'un lien.
Un exemple similaire extrait du [http://theryanking.com/blog/archives/2006/01/25/blogging-as-religion/ blog de Ryan King] :
  Intuitively, we&#8217;d expect a group to balance each other out, but
  &lt;q cite="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risky_shift">
      people with relatively moderate viewpoints tend to assume that their groupmates hold more extreme views,
      and to alter their own views in compensation
  &lt;/q>
  [&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risky_shift">source&lt;/a>]
=== cite href ===
Une autre forme extraite de [http://theryanking.com/blog/archives/2005/01/31/things-to-say-when-you-are-losing-a-tech-argument/ Ryan King] (en espérant que c'est un avant qu'il n'ait découvert la présentation de Tantek à propos du balisage).
  &lt;div class="entry">
      &lt;p>From &lt;cite>&lt;a href="http://www.skirsch.com/humor/techarg.htm">
        Things to say when you are losing a tech argument&lt;/a>
      &lt;/cite>:&lt;/p>
      &lt;blockquote>&lt;p>
        2.That’s been proven to be O(N^2) and we need a solution that’s O(NlogN).&lt;br>
        15. Oh, I played with that approach back as an undergrad. Got a D, too.&lt;br>
        18.That’s totally inefficient on modern hardware.&lt;br>
        26. No, no, no. It’s fairly important that the database be in THIRD NORMAL  FORM.&lt;br>
        28. I don’t think that’s altogether clear. Please write it up in UML for me.&lt;br>
        39.This is all covered in Knuth, and we don’t have time to go over it again.&lt;br>
        65.Yes, but we’re standardizing on XML.
      &lt;/p>
      &lt;/blockquote>
  &lt;/div>
Ryan utilise la structure &lt;CITE>&lt;A href="source">nom source&lt;/A>&lt;/CITE>.
=== href dans blockquote ===
Extrait de [http://www.stoweboyd.com/message/2006/01/umair_haque_on_.html Stowe Boyd]
  &lt;p>Umair Haque is worried that a steady diet of tech.memeorandum is making him stupid:&lt;/p>
  &lt;blockquote>
      [from &lt;a title="Bubblegeneration Strategy Lab" href="http://www.bubblegeneration.com/2006/01/problems-with-2.cfm">
          The Problems with 2.0, pt 34514
      &lt;/a>]
      &lt;p>
        I luv Memeorandum and all it's reconstructor cousins. It's one of the first things of my reading list.
        It's hugely slashed my search costs in finding new stuff.But there's a problem. Ever since I've started using
        it to the point where it replaces many of my other sources, I have gotten stupider.I can feel it - I don't
        think as fast, flexibly, or freely.
      &lt;/p>
  &lt;/blockquote>
Le lien vers la source du quote est embarqué dans l'élément BLOCKQUOTE en tant que partie du texte de la citation.
=== href et quote ===
&lt;p>Il est incorrect de dire que le logiciel n'est &lt;a href="http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20060111223959235">&lt;q>que des maths</q></a>,
et n'est par conséquent pas brevetable...</p>

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Ceci est une page d'explication pour documenter les différentes méthodes utilisées pour annoter les conversations en ligne qu'elles soient distribuées ou non. L'objectif des études de cette page est de servir d'arrière-plan pour la conception d'un microformat destiné à annoter les conversations distribués sur les blogs et d'autres médias en ligne.

voir brainstorming conversation distribuée pour de plus amples discussions sur ce sujet. voir conversation-distribuée-formats pour les formats.

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(traduction en cours Christophe Ducamp)

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