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* <strong class="entry-title">What is item-license?</strong>  Using [[rel-license]] presumably?
* <strong class="entry-title">What is item-license?</strong>  Using [[rel-license]] presumably?
** We're working off the [[licensing-brainstorming#item_as_container licensing-brainstorming] discussions for this.  Our concern with [[rel-license]] was its definition as applying to an entire page, rather than an item within a page.  The current discussions around licensing definitely address that. --[[User:JonathanMalek|JonathanMalek]] 00:02, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
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This page reflects externally raised issues about news microformat effort in development.

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Open Issues

open issue! 18:32, 24 August 2009 (UTC) raised by Kevin Marks

  • hCalendar instead of dateline? Would an hCalendar event (which can contain an hCard location) make sense for a dateline, or is the 'date' part more often omitted?
    • Confusingly, the journalistic term "dateline" isn't anything to do with a date or time. It is the location from which a report is filed and is generally the main location associated with a story. Generally, a dateline consists of a city (e.g. "Rome") but could be the name of a ship at sea or even a space station. Stuart Myles 21:12, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

open issue! 18:32, 24 August 2009 (UTC) raised by Kevin Marks

  • hCard instead of geo? Is geo really in use here, or would using an hCard (that can contain geo) be a better way of representing locations referred to in the story, as more human readable?
    • The reason for geo being highlighted (as an optional field) is to promote at least one location identifier in the story--preferably the most appropriate single location on a map for that particular story. Geo does not have to be related to dateline, but in some examples we've worked on, we show the two collapsed into a single field. --JonathanMalek 23:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
    • For locations referred to in the story, I agree--publishers should be using hCard with the contained geo to markup the locations themselves. One of the concepts I've struggled with is drawing an admittedly arbitrary line between the metadata about a story from the metadata within a story. For the former, we've focused on simplicity and minimalism, primarily as a means to encourage adoption. That has meant preferring rel-tag over in-line entity extraction and markup using compound microformats. For the latter, we feel that the field is open: use whatever microformat fits your purpose, however you can--the more, the better. This lets publishers with minimal technology capabilities at least get started by tweaking a few templates in their CMS, while those more technically inclined aren't limited by the simplicity of the format to a paucity of data. --JonathanMalek 23:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

open issue! 18:32, 24 August 2009 (UTC) raised by Kevin Marks

  • What is item-license? Using rel-license presumably?
    • We're working off the [[licensing-brainstorming#item_as_container licensing-brainstorming] discussions for this. Our concern with rel-license was its definition as applying to an entire page, rather than an item within a page. The current discussions around licensing definitely address that. --JonathanMalek 00:02, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

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