[microformats-discuss] Re: Blog post format challenge - content vs summary

[David Janes -- BlogMatrix]

Hi Ryan and Geof,

In Atom ... which seems to me to provide a reasonable definition for 
blogable content ... you'd probably want to call your enclosure element 
"entry". The permalink is a little more problematic ... I decided that 
"entrylink" seemed to make as more sense than the alternatives.

Did you try the Greasemonkey script I mailed out this morning? You 
should be able to tweak it to quickly identify the posts (I'm using 
"xentry" for the top level item, but that's certainly subject to 
change). In either case, you can see the argument for settling this out.

"summary" is very nice, and also part of the Atom standard; it then 
differentiates between the full content ("content") and a part of it.

Regards, etc...
David
http://www.blogmatrix.com

Ryan King wrote:
> On Aug 13, 2005, at 3:37 PM, Geoffrey Glass wrote:
> 
>> I've started marking up my blog [1] as a blog microformat  
>> experiment.  I'm using the same classes as in my annotation code,  
>> which is not to say I think they're the best that have been  proposed 
>> (I don't).
> 
> 
> Awesome.
> 
> A little (hopefully constructive) criticism...
> 
> 
>> <div class="post">
> 
> 
> Not bad, class="item" would be another option.
> 
>> <h3 class="title">
>> <a rel="link" href="http://www.geof.net/blog/2005/08/11/indiana- 
>> jones-school-of-management" title="Permanent link to this  
>> article">Indiana Jones School of Management</a></h3>
> 
> 
> Why not rel="self permalink" ?
> 
> This is already in use for a lot of blogging platforms, I'm not sure  if 
> there's a normative definition anywhere, but I think the semantics  are 
> pretty well established.
> 
>> <div class="summary">
> 
> 
> +1
> 
>>     <p>I was quite shocked a few weeks back when Google for  
>> inscrutable reasons decided to bump me to the #1 search result for  
>> &#8220;geof&#8221;.  Sometimes it dumps me on the second page, now  
>> I&#8217;m #1.  Huh.  Anyway, I thought this this link from <a  
>> href="http://ijsm.org/archives/2005/08/07/2-geof/">Geof  Morris&#8217; 
>> Indiana Jones School of Management</a> was downright  neighborly. ...</p>
>> </div>
> 
> 
>> One thing came up immediately:  the distinction between index pages  
>> (with posts summaries) and full content pages.
> 
> 
> I think this is a minority of blogs (though I may be wrong) and  
> probably troublesome. Also, this method of posting has too many  
> problems for us to solve here.
> 
> -ryan
> 
>> I marked up both, using a class of "summary" for excerpts and  
>> "content" for full content.  On the one hand, I don't like the  added 
>> complexity;  on the other, I suspect there are legitimate use  cases 
>> for marking up index pages (come to think of it, my  contextual copy 
>> implementation [2] may be one of them).
>>
>> Geof
>>
>> [1] http://www.geof.net/blog/
>> [2] http://www.geof.net/code/annotation/demo/ (Smart Copy at the  bottom)
> 
> 
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