[microformats-discuss] Blog post format thoughts on xentry: entrylink, id, updated

Geoffrey Glass geof at geof.net
Tue Aug 16 11:34:39 PDT 2005

I am more concerned with the set of fields in the format than with their 
names.  Actual blogs provide one source of fields;  Atom and RSS 
another.  There are cleary different opinions about which precedent 
matters more.  I am of the opinion that leveraging Atom (and its names) 
is a good idea.  In this sense, the question is not whether the cart is 
before the horse, but which is the horse.  However, this doesn't address 
the more important problem of which fields to include.

I think David's six fields (xentry, title, entrylink, author, content, 
published) are an obvious core set.  Atom's precedent suggests at least 
two more, id and updated.  Tantek is right that the best way to proceed 
is to look at actual blogs.

I do notice that in Atom "updated" is required, but "published" is 
optional.  In David's examples on the wiki, no format lists more than 
one date;  without knowing the blogging systems, I can't say whether the 
date is truly a post date or an update date.  I use TextPattern, which 
only stores the post date but allows the author to update it.  I'm 
inclined to think the update date is more important.


Tantek Çelik wrote:

>This discussion is putting the cart before the horse.
>So far there has been no thorough discussion / documentation of the current
>blog post formats being used on the *Web* today (i.e. in XHTML) on the wiki.
>Coming up with names and voting on them is a waste of theoretical thinking
>without the proper background research to back it up.
>If you really want to advance a blog post format, first document current
> http://microformats.org/wiki/blog-post-examples
>*and* formats (with examples of them as well)
> http://microformats.org/wiki/blog-post-formats
>And then please try experimenting with ideas on your own blog (feel free to
>post your URLs here) before proposing any.

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