[microformats-discuss] Discovery of microformats

[Ryan King]

On Jul 12, 2005, at 12:53 PM, Bud Gibson wrote:

> I for one would like to reinforce that the profile mechanism is a  
> good one and should be used more often.
>
> Let me also take this opportunity to point out that the profile  
> mechanism could be improved.  It requires that you use a profile  
> attribute in the head element.  If you are creating a web page of  
> harvested microformatted content or one where microformatted  
> content is inserted by something like hCard creator, you typically  
> do not have access to the head element.  What to do?  Perhaps we  
> need to consider a use of the anchor <a> or some other element, i.e.,

Bud-

It's not like we just made up the profile attribute as a way for  
referencing profiles- this stuff is in the html spec.

> <a href="profile.url" rel="profile">profile for microformat z</a>
>
> contained in the inserted text.
>
> I'm a little concerned with relying on UA parsing as the sole  
> fallback.  It requires that the UA have an updated notion of what  
> the microformats are.  How would that happen?  The profile  
> mechanism seems easier.

Yes, but the UA will need to know how to handle specific microformats  
before it can do so.

-ryan


> Bud
> On Jul 12, 2005, at 15:32, Ryan King wrote:
>
>
>> On Jul 12, 2005, at 11:41 AM, Joshua Porter wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> In trying to understand why I should, as a developer, produce  
>>> microformat code, I realized that I don't know how to find out  
>>> which sites use microformats and which don't.  (Tantek's pointer  
>>> on microformats.org the other day reminded me of this)
>>>
>>> How would I (or my browsing/aggregating software) discover that a  
>>> site is using microformats?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> A couple of ways:
>>
>> 1. You could tell it that there are microformats there. :)
>> 2. The UA could parse the page, looking for microformats that it  
>> knows about.
>> 3. Profile URL- microformats can have a profile url, which is in  
>> the profile attribute of the head element.
>>
>> spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/global.html#h-7.4
>> example:http://gmpg.org/xmdp/description
>>
>> -ryan
>>
>>
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> josh
>>>
>>>
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