[uf-discuss] format for identifiers?
Ryan King
ryan at technorati.com
Thu Nov 24 10:05:10 PST 2005
On Nov 23, 2005, at 1:09 PM, David Osolkowski wrote:
> I think the question might have been misread. I understood the
> question to
> be, "is there or should there be a microformat for indicating that
> something
> IS an identifier", as opposed to "is there or should there be a
> microformat
> FOR identifiers". E.g. given the string "urn:isbn:<whatever>",
> indicating
> that that string represents an identifier.
I don't believe the question was misread. Tantek's point was that
there's no need for a microformat, we already have it covered with URIs.
> I would suggest that the point of the identifier is that it
> represents some
> resource, and merely marking up a string as being an identifier
> doesn't
> accomplish much without being able to dereference it and obtain the
> resource
> it identifies.
So, you're saying URIs are only useful when they're URIs?
> Saying "urn:isbn:<whatever>" is an identifier doesn't do
> much good; the point is that given that identifier, I can tell that
> it's
> talking about a book and I can go obtain information about that
> book. In
> which case, a href="" comes to mind. I think there's room for some
> debate
> here.
I'm not sure what use case you're going at here.
> - David
>
> On 11/23/05, Tantek Çelik <tantek at cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Hello C. Hudley, welcome to the list!
>>
>> On 11/23/05 9:54 AM, "C. Hudley" <chudley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Has any work been done on a format for identifiers? By
>>> "identifier" I
>>> mean "some kind of arbitrary string that identifies the object at
>>> hand
>>> in some system". Examples of the kinds of identifiers that might be
>>> in scope would be ISBNs for books, PMIDs for pubmed, node ids for
>>> weblog entries, DOIs for journal articles, flickr ids for flickr
>>> images, etc.
BTW, see http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes and http://
www.iana.org/assignments/urn-namespaces, which have schemes and
namesspaced for most of the things you list above.
-ryan
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