[microformats-discuss] abbr-design-pattern

[David Janes -- BlogMatrix]

Got it. I'll use this argument to fill in the page a little more later on.

However, let me toss out the argument here that ABBR does not hide data 
-- it's available as a mouseover popup. Furthermore, the use of ABBR for 
exanding simple presentation forms is entirely with the spirit and 
letter of the HTML spec [1] for ABBR to do the (2) form below.

Regards, etc...
David
http://www.blogmatrix.com

[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/text.html#edef-ABBR

Tantek Çelik wrote:
>>(2) using ABBR to encode more formal human data around something less formal
>>
>><abbr class="author" title="Danny Ayers">Danny</abbr>
>>
>>I think Tantek is arguing that (1) is good and (2) is not (?).
> 
> 
> That's correct.
> 
> (1) is a case of the same information being written differently.
> 
> (2) is a case of *more* information being invisibly present, namely, the
> last name in this case.
> 
> If someone is not willing to make some information visible, then we
> shouldn't be encouraging them to store that information invisibly, for all
> the same reasons that invisible metadata is bad/futile in the first place.