[microformats-discuss] DUHPER (WAS: XHTML-REST, STRUM, DETH, etc.)

[Luke Arno]

This link is on the introduction page of the wiki, in fact:

http://www.windley.com/archives/2005/07/microformats.shtml

I think that microformats and REST are a natural compliment.

This "dual-use" is not so much a case to "kill 2 birds with 1 stone"
but a case of uncrossing our eyes and realizing that there is only
one bird. See quote below.

- Luke

"You have a saying, 'to kill two birds with one stone.' But our way is
to kill just one bird with one stone."
  -  Shunryu Suzuki



On 10/18/05, Luke Arno <luke.arno at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/18/05, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar <drernie at opendarwin.org> wrote:
> > Hi Dimitri,
> >
> > On Oct 18, 2005, at 7:11 AM, Dimitri Glazkov wrote:
> > > Oh no! DUHPER! It sounds like "diaper" :)
> >
> > Doh!  Or should I say, DUH! :-)
> >
> > It's supposed to rhyme with "Suhper".  Yeah, the puns just write
> > themselves...
>
> I thought "super-DUHPER".
>
> > >
> > > Do you get a feeling that Microformats wiki is being run over by
> > > RESTafarians?
> >
>
> More like "is populated by" than "being overrun by". There are so
> many common values. Microformats are to formats what REST is
> to services.
>
> > Ouch!
> >
> > Like I said, its a lame name, but I think the Dual-Use aspect is non
> > obvious to people when they just here (X)HTML-REST.
> >
>
> I disagree. I think that this is a popular theme in the AJAX
> browser-as-protocol-client crowd. To many it is obvious.
>
> It is still a very rich vein to explore however. I don't mean to
> discourage.
>
> - Luke
>
> > I did think about calling it "RETH - REST Expressed Through HTML"
> > "Like REST, but thimpler."
> >
> > -- Ernie P.
> >
> > >
> > > :DG<
> > >
> > > On 10/18/05, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar <drernie at opendarwin.org> wrote:
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> I apologize for coining Yet Another Acronym, but I'm still trying to
> > >> find a concise yet 'sticky' way to articulate this idea to an
> > >> appropriate audience:
> > >>
> > >> = DUHPER: A Dual-Use HTML Profile Expressing REST =
> > >> == The 0.8% Solution for Web Services ==
> > >> http://microformats.org/wiki/duhper-proposal-preso
> > >>
> > >> Yeah, it's corny and hard to spell, but at least its unique! :-)
> > >>
> > >> More importantly, in talking to people I'm finding that the most
> > >> compelling aspect of this idea is that you can create *one*
> > >> implementation which provides both a machine-readable REST API and a
> > >> human-readable website.  Very DRY! (Don't Repeat Yourself).
> > >>
> > >> As always, your comments and edits are welcome.   Compared to the
> > >> previous version, I think this has a better storyline and many fewer
> > >> details, which is actually a good thing to start with.
> > >>
> > >> I'm also going to try to write a demo using Ruby on Rails,
> > >> GreaseMonkey, and CoreData.  By Thursday.  Having never written in
> > >> these before.  Gulp!  Help with that would also be greatly
> > >> appreciated! :-)
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >> Ernie P.
> > >> ------------
> > >> Ernest N. Prabhakar, Ph.D. <drernie at opendarwin.org>
> > >> Ex-Physicist, Marketing Weenie, and Dilettante Hacker
> > >> Probe-Hacker blog: http://www.opendarwin.org/~drernie/
> > >>
> > >>
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