[microformats-discuss] DUHPER (WAS: XHTML-REST, STRUM, DETH, etc.)

[Luke Arno]

On 10/18/05, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar <drernie at opendarwin.org> wrote:
> Hi Dimitri,
>
> On Oct 18, 2005, at 7:11 AM, Dimitri Glazkov wrote:
> > Oh no! DUHPER! It sounds like "diaper" :)
>
> Doh!  Or should I say, DUH! :-)
>
> It's supposed to rhyme with "Suhper".  Yeah, the puns just write
> themselves...

I thought "super-DUHPER".

> >
> > Do you get a feeling that Microformats wiki is being run over by
> > RESTafarians?
>

More like "is populated by" than "being overrun by". There are so
many common values. Microformats are to formats what REST is
to services.

> Ouch!
>
> Like I said, its a lame name, but I think the Dual-Use aspect is non
> obvious to people when they just here (X)HTML-REST.
>

I disagree. I think that this is a popular theme in the AJAX
browser-as-protocol-client crowd. To many it is obvious.

It is still a very rich vein to explore however. I don't mean to
discourage.

- Luke

> I did think about calling it "RETH - REST Expressed Through HTML"
> "Like REST, but thimpler."
>
> -- Ernie P.
>
> >
> > :DG<
> >
> > On 10/18/05, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar <drernie at opendarwin.org> wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I apologize for coining Yet Another Acronym, but I'm still trying to
> >> find a concise yet 'sticky' way to articulate this idea to an
> >> appropriate audience:
> >>
> >> = DUHPER: A Dual-Use HTML Profile Expressing REST =
> >> == The 0.8% Solution for Web Services ==
> >> http://microformats.org/wiki/duhper-proposal-preso
> >>
> >> Yeah, it's corny and hard to spell, but at least its unique! :-)
> >>
> >> More importantly, in talking to people I'm finding that the most
> >> compelling aspect of this idea is that you can create *one*
> >> implementation which provides both a machine-readable REST API and a
> >> human-readable website.  Very DRY! (Don't Repeat Yourself).
> >>
> >> As always, your comments and edits are welcome.   Compared to the
> >> previous version, I think this has a better storyline and many fewer
> >> details, which is actually a good thing to start with.
> >>
> >> I'm also going to try to write a demo using Ruby on Rails,
> >> GreaseMonkey, and CoreData.  By Thursday.  Having never written in
> >> these before.  Gulp!  Help with that would also be greatly
> >> appreciated! :-)
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Ernie P.
> >> ------------
> >> Ernest N. Prabhakar, Ph.D. <drernie at opendarwin.org>
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> >>
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