[uf-discuss] Citation Straw Proposal II

Tim White tjameswhite at yahoo.com
Sun Apr 30 06:21:24 PDT 2006

Nice work Brian.

Interesting use of <abbr> to capture the type in your example. Seems a pretty elegant way to capture a lot of what we've been talking about.
~ Tim 

----- Original Message ----
From: Brian Suda <brian.suda at gmail.com>
To: Microformats Discuss <microformats-discuss at microformats.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 2:58:29 PM
Subject: [uf-discuss] Citation Straw Proposal II

I have spent some time reviewing the examples and the formats on the
wiki. Here is the list of the implied schemas. These are the common
fields amongst the examples. I then looked at the cross over between
the real-world examples and the formats and have created a straw
proposal from that. At the moment it is pretty strict, i only included
VERY common properties - it is easier to make additions than
subtractions - so if there is a property that is NOT in the straw
proposal please speak-up.

implied schema (examples)
+ publisher
+ language
+ description
+ title
+ creator
+ volume
+ issue
+ page
+ edition
+ identifier
+ tags
+ format
+ date published
+ copyright
 - audience

implied schema (formats)
 + publisher
 + language
 + description
 + title
 + creator
 + volume
 + pages
 + edition
 + issue
 + identifier
 + tags
 + format
 + date published
 + date copyrighted
 - subtitle
 - image
 - excerpt
 - index terms
 - series title
 - publication
 - journal
 - part (1 of X)

UNION of the two schemas
 + (PLUS) means common properties
 - (MINUS) means unique to the schema

Brian's Straw format
<ul class="bibliography">
    <li class="citation" xml:lang="en-gb">
        <!-- publisher data as hCard-->
        <div class="publisher vcard">
            <span class="fn org">ABC Publishing Co.</span>
            <span class="country-name">United Kingdom</span>
        <!-- author(s) data as hCard -->
        <div class="creator vcard">
            <span class="fn">John Doe</span>

        <!-- location data -->
        <span class="title">Foobar!</span>
        <span class="description">World Class Book about foobar</span>
        <span class="volume">1</span>
        <span class="issue">1</span>
        <span class="edition">1</span>
        <span class="pages">1-10</span>
        <span class="format">article</span>
        <!-- differed to the UID debate -->
        <span class="identifier">12345678</span>
        <!-- keywords -->
        <span class="keyword">foo</span>
        <span class="keyword">bar</span>
        <!-- date properties -->
        Published <abbr class="dtpublished" title="20060101">January 1st 1006</abbr>
        Copyright <abbr class="copyright" title="20060101">2006</abbr>

<p class="citation">Have you read <span class="title"><abbr
title="book" class="format">Foo Bar</abbr></span>?
It was written by <span class="author vcard"><span class="fn">John
It only came out a <abbr class="dtpublished" title="20060101">few
months ago</abbr></p>

- URL (this is probably do to several examples of older citation
formats not having URLs, is this important or can identifier handle
this property?)
- IMAGE (not sure what this would be an image of, but HTML has <img>
element, so it could be of use? Does it help to cite something?)

- AUTHOR, EDITOR, TRANSLATOR, etc. At the moment these are all lumped
into 'creator' which will need to be expanded as appropriate. Probably
(author | editor )
- ABSTRACT, NOTES, EXCEPT, etc. At the moment these are lumped into

- Difference between COPYRIGHT and LICENSE, currently citation
copyright is a date-time, license would be the TYPE. License is NOT
accounted for.

- IsPartOf is another property that has been discussed which is not represented.

- Other properties like 'audience' are in some formats (DC) but were
not common enough to be considered in the format schema.

Overall this straw format is on the minimal side, so lets review this
and see what needs to be addressed and how to do so.

i have added the straw proposal to the wiki[1], so feel free to make
changes/suggestions there.


[1] - http://microformats.org/wiki/citation-brainstorming#Brian.27s_Straw_format

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