[uf-discuss] Group Microformat

[Factory Joe]

We could of course use xFolk to describe a group... but what I'm
wondering about now it the grey area between hcard and XFN where we
want to express "membership" or "belonging to". This could
theoretically be done with something like 'org'
(http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#Organization_Contact_Info), but
what you'd need to do is be able to link to all your groups, perhaps
using rel=group...?

The second question is how the group links to its members... so just
like I can link between two my websites with rel=me and show
reciprocity, in a sense "proving" that relationship, likewise it would
be good if I could have a "grouproll" on my blog and by that group
linking to me (maybe a perfect time to pull out rev and rel values)
and by me linking to it back, it would prove membership.

Anyway, the ultimate goal is to reduce redoing work -- which might
have less value in the semantic data storage context, but more value
in the social sphere in building web-page centric "macros".

Chris

On 2/27/06, brian suda <brian.suda at gmail.com> wrote:
> A few quick things instantly come to mind (i'm not sure how well they
> can be adapted):
>
> * XFN has a way to show relationships, maybe additional values could be
> added there instead of creating a new microformat
> * hCard has a Category property, If you have a group of 10 people, each
> could simply add a category of "CATEGORIES: Family, Flock, Gamerz" then
> it shows that they are in those groups.
>
> What is not addressed (yet) are your ideas of a group description or
> tags and the pool aspects.
>
> -brian
>
> Factory Joe wrote:
> > So I was going to go ahead and create a discussion page for this topic
> > on the wiki, but I figured I'd hold off pending initial discussion.
> >
> > So what I like about hCard is that I can create a social network of my
> > friends on one site, and once those services wisen up, can import all
> > my buddies at once via scraping the hcards off my friends listing pages.
> >
> > Now, I'd like to do the same thing for groups. So I need something
> > like hGroup.
> >
> > In the wild, groups usually have members and occassionally pools of
> > data -- like forum posts or photos. You can also have vlogging groups,
> > gamer groups and so on. So I'd break it down like this:
> >
> > --Group Name
> >   | Description
> >   | Tags
> >   |
> >   +--+ Members
> >   |  |
> >   |  +-- Member 1 (hcard)
> >   |  |
> >   |  +-- Member 2 (hcard)
> >   |
> >   +--+ Pool
> >      |
> >      +--+ Topic
> >         |
> >         +-- Post 1 (hatom)
> >         |
> >         +-- Post 2 (hatom)
> >
> > Anyway, what I want to be able to do is not only interchange my social
> > networks, but also my groups. If I've created a Flock group on Flock,
> > presumably I should have one created on Upcoming, iMeem and so on.
> > Being able to export these groups and share them between sites would
> > be excellent.
> >
> > I dunno, what do people think? It's just like, the more social apps I
> > try, the less interest I have in reinstantiating my entire social
> > networking infrastruture.
> >
> > Chris
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