[uf-discuss] Group Microformat

Joshua Kinberg jkinberg at gmail.com
Mon Feb 27 10:37:57 PST 2006

Seems to me like describing the group meta-info (i.e. the group info +
its membership info) is something different than describing the
threaded conversation that may happen in a group.


On 2/27/06, Eran <limbo at actcom.co.il> wrote:
> I've actually been thinking of a similar idea for a project I'm working on.
> So far, I've only been interested in membership lists and content (later I
> might add group meta data like closed/open, moderated etc.). Here's what I
> have so far:
> To show that content X belongs to a group, use rel-directory. The group is a
> container just like any other so rel-directory seems like a perfect fit.
> To show that person X is a member of this group use rel="member" (you can
> also use "owner" or "moderator")
> To show that you are a member of group X use rel="group"
> The membership forrmat (I call it xhtml membership format - xmf) leaves
> exact semantics of the relationships to the group. Some groups might be
> closed - the links must be reciprocated, others might be open - a link from
> a user's page is enough to indicate membership. The proper place for XMF
> links is the group's main page and the user's XFN page (or a page with
> rel="me" to those pages). Hopefully, by "linking" the to XFN network we also
> gain access to users' profiles published in hCard so there's no need to
> replicate that.
> Eran.
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> Subject: [uf-discuss] Group Microformat
> So I was going to go ahead and create a discussion page for this topic on
> the wiki, but I figured I'd hold off pending initial discussion.
> So what I like about hCard is that I can create a social network of my
> friends on one site, and once those services wisen up, can import all my
> buddies at once via scraping the hcards off my friends listing pages.
> Now, I'd like to do the same thing for groups. So I need something like
> hGroup.
> In the wild, groups usually have members and occassionally pools of data --
> like forum posts or photos. You can also have vlogging groups, gamer groups
> and so on. So I'd break it down like this:
> --Group Name
>   | Description
>   | Tags
>   |
>   +--+ Members
>   |  |
>   |  +-- Member 1 (hcard)
>   |  |
>   |  +-- Member 2 (hcard)
>   |
>   +--+ Pool
>      |
>      +--+ Topic
>         |
>         +-- Post 1 (hatom)
>         |
>         +-- Post 2 (hatom)
> Anyway, what I want to be able to do is not only interchange my social
> networks, but also my groups. If I've created a Flock group on Flock,
> presumably I should have one created on Upcoming, iMeem and so on. Being
> able to export these groups and share them between sites would be excellent.
> I dunno, what do people think? It's just like, the more social apps I try,
> the less interest I have in reinstantiating my entire social networking
> infrastruture.
> Chris
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