[uf-discuss] CFP microformat?
ryan at technorati.com
Thu Jun 1 17:05:35 PDT 2006
On May 30, 2006, at 5:49 AM, Angus McIntyre wrote:
> At 21:45 +0200 20.05.2006, Ryan King wrote:
>> On May 20, 2006, at 9:13 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
>>> A good first step might be to see if you can get these
>>> conferences just
>>> using hCalendar to start with ...
>> I want to reemphasize this....
>> The use case you described sounds like a specialized case of
>> "events + todos"
>> which sounds like exactly hCalendar. If hCalendar isn't
>> sufficient, the
>> only way to know reliably is try it out first.
> There can be calls for papers which don't have such an obviously
> 'eventy' nature, i.e. calls for journal articles. There's certainly
> a due date in almost all cases, but other attributes may be very
> specific to a CFP rather than an hCalendar item. Keywords - tags -
> is one obvious one, and paper length is another. I offer as an
> example the call for journal articles at:
> whose editor has been complaining to me that her contributors are
> apparently incapable of reading the part that says "maximum number
> of words is ..."
Doesn't surprise me. I'm not sure if we can solve this problem with
microformats, thought. :D
> This example includes:
> - journal title ("Research for Sex Work")
> - journal instance title ("Sex Work and Money")
> - due date (15 Dec 2005)
> - paper length (1200 words)
> - acceptable languages for submissions (English, French, Chinese ...)
> - contact address (an obvious hCard candidate)
> - suggested topics (which are more than just tags)
> Many CFPs will have multiple due dates - the due date for
> submission of an abstract, and the due date for submission of the
> final article. In some cases there may even be a due date for
> submission of the camera-ready copy of accepted articles.
These can be encoded as multiple todo's (they are separate tasks, no?).
> hCFP starts to look like a candidate for a complex microformat that
> contains an hCard, plus hCalendar entries for due dates, plus
> perhaps a microformat representation of a conference, book or
> journal (which may have hCalendar and hCard entries themselves),
> plus some CFP-specific information like paper length and submission
> This might be in 20% territory, but in other ways it's quite a
> natural application of microformats and the payoff - automated
> identification of CFPs - is worthwhile.
I'm not going to say that a microformats for CFP's is unnecessary.
Nor am I going to predict that it will never exist. Nor will I say
that it wouldn't be useful.
However, it does smell 20%-ish. It also seems that most of the
building blocks are there already. And, because of these two items, I
think that those interested in applying microformats to this problem
should experiment as much as they can with existing microformats. I
know this won't cover every bit of interesting data, but I think it
can get folks quite a ways towards having some useful tools
(remember, 100% is never a goal around here :D).
I know that Michael McCraken has experimented a bit with this, I'll
get to that later (I'm in catch-up mode after spending 2.5 weeks on
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