[uf-discuss] hResume and object-based include

[Steve Ganz]

I think we all agree that using the <address> element is certainly the most
semantically appropriate element to use when marking up a document author's
contact information.

The question is whether or not using <address> as the parent element for the
author's hCard is a SHOULD or a MUST in hResume. As Angus mentions, it poses
a problem because the <address> element is an inline element and thus only
accepts inline elements as children.

In the hResume draft, it is written:

Schema:

* contact info. required. <address> + hCard.

Field Details:

* contact:: Current contact info. The <address> with hCard.

Does the above mean an hResume author MUST use the <address> element to mark
up the authors hCard?

In my hResume (http://steve.ganz.name/hresume/), I've chosen to mark up only
the "adr" portion of my hCard with the <address> element. It is most
important for me to use the <h1> element to mark up my "fn" and "n", so I've
placed that outside of the <address> element and am using a <div> for the
parent hCard. So while this is valid XHTML, is it valid hResume?

Thanks,
Steve
 
On Monday, June 12, 2006 Brian Suda wrote

> Maybe i can clear-up abit of confusion,
> 
> There is an element in HTML called "ADDRESS"[1] it is 
> confusing to what that actually means.
> 
> According to the W3C it is:
> The ADDRESS element may be used by authors to supply contact 
> information for a document or a major part of a document such 
> as a form. This element often appears at the beginning or end 
> of a document.
> So when we use that in conjunction with hResume, it is the 
> contact information for the person whom the resume 
> represents. So when we mention ADDRESS+hCard we are intending
> 
> <address class="vcard">
> <!-- the rest of your hcard here -->
> </address>

> The semantics Address does not mean class="adr", it means 
> contact info.
> 
> I hope this helps clear-up a few things, the hCard FAQ[2] has 
> abit more information about <address>, we should start an FAQ 
> page[3] for hResume, any takers?
> 
> -brian
> 
> [1] - http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#edef-ADDRESS
> [2] - http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-faq
> [3] - http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume-faq
> 
> On 6/11/06, Steve Ganz <steve at ganz.name> wrote:
> > On Jun 11, 2006, at 11:18 PM, Angus McIntyre wrote:
> >
> > > Finally, one other point: would it make sense to consider 
> allowing 
> > > something other than <address> + vcard (i.e. <div> + vcard + 
> > > contact) for the contact information on a resume.
> > > <address> is quite constraining for markup purposes: you 
> can't put 
> > > an <h1> or a <div> inside an <address>, for instance, which means 
> > > that you're pretty much limited to <span>. You then have 
> the choice 
> > > of either using CSS to make your various <span> elements block 
> > > rather than inline, or larding your markup with <br />. Neither 
> > > solution really appeals.
> > >
> >
> > Hi Angus,
> >
> > In the hResume draft, I belive the intent of "contact info. 
> required.
> > <address> + hCard" is to specify that using hCard for 
> contact info is 
> > required. Ryan can confirm this, but AFAIK, you do not have 
> to use the 
> > <address> element for marking up the adr microformat in 
> your hCard in 
> > hResume. What matters is the class of "adr", not the element you 
> > choose. See the sample in the adr specification: 
> http://microformats.org/wiki/adr.
> >
> > FWIW, this is how I've marked up my hCard in my hResume at
> > http://steve.ganz.name/hresume/:
> >
> > <div class="vcard">
> >   <h1 class="fn n" id="name"><a class="url" 
> href="http://steve.ganz.name/"
> > rel="me"><span class="given-name">Steve</span> <span 
> > class="family-name">Ganz</span></a></h1>
> >   <address class="adr">
> >         <span class="street-address">1409 La Terrace Circle</span> 
> > <span class="locality">San Jose</span>, <abbr class="region"
> > title="California">CA</abbr> <span class="postal-code">95123</span>
> >   </address>
> >   <div class="tel"><abbr class="type" title="cell">Mobile:</abbr> 
> > <abbr class="value" title="+14082308134">408-230-8134</abbr></div>
> >   <div class="email"><abbr class="type" 
> title="email">Email:</abbr> <a 
> > href="mailto:steve at ganz.name" 
> class="value">steve at ganz.name</a></div>
> > </div>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> >
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> 
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