[uf-discuss] Re: Wiki

[Chris Messina]

On 5/3/06, Tantek Çelik <tantek at cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
> On 5/3/06 1:19 PM, "Thibaud Elzière" <telziere at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > The url scheme for localized page seems to be : title-language were
> > language is the 2 characters language code.
>
> Correct.
>
>
> > It is used for the Spanish
> > translation however "-sp" is used whereas "-es" would have been better
> > according to me.
>
> You're right Thibaud and you found an error. Could you fix this on the wiki?
>
>
> > Except for base pages, I think it is better no to prioritize so that
> > people would not be "forced" to  deal with something they are not sure
> > about,
>
> Agreed.  Thus we have "stable-pages" and the rest is left up to the
> translators.
>
> http://microformats.org/wiki/stable-pages
>
>
> On 5/3/06 1:16 PM, "Rémi Prévost" <remi at exomel.com> wrote:
>
> > Chris Messina wrote:
> >> Two things:
> >>
> >> Can we add the "how to play" link to the signup/login page?
> >>
> >> Should we have a url scheme for localized pages? Perhaps a wishlist
> >> for prioritizing which pages should be done first?
> >>
> >> Chris
> >
> > The current localized url scheme is "pagename" + "-lang". But I think we
> > could use a different namespace for every language, like "fr:Main-page"
> > instead of "Main-page-fr".
>
> Unless there is a problem with the current method, or a significant
> advantage to changing the scheme, or another scheme is more established
> (e.g. in Wikipedia[1]), let's stick with the current method.
>
> [1] In Wikipedia they have used the convention of lang.wikipedia.org which
> has had the VERY unfortunate side-effect of requiring more than one login
> per language that you are editing.  There are some Wikipedians with 100+
> logins *just for Wikipedia* because of this problem.  I've spoken with
> several Wikipedia folks and they lament having chosen that pattern and would
> choose differently if they had the chance to do it over.
>
> Thus when I first established the localization file naming pattern for
> microformats, I looked more towards what W3C folks often do, and that is use
> a "-lang" suffix on file names.
>
> In general namespaces are more trouble than they are worth[2], and in
> particular, AFAIK, Mediawiki namespaces are meant for whole different types
> of pages, not for different languages.  When possible, avoid namespaces.
>
> [2] http://microformats.org/wiki/mailing-lists#bad_topics_for_discussion

My bad -- wasn't clear that there was a convention and I was
unfortunately writing from my Blackberry -- not exactly the most
convenient device to hop around the wiki in...

Chris