[uf-discuss] hCite progress

Andy Mabbett andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk
Mon Nov 13 12:33:55 PST 2006

In message
<cd2b26c60611131206q39430f82s6d6da839372f058e at mail.gmail.com>, Bruce
D'Arcus <bdarcus.lists at gmail.com> writes

>On 11/13/06, Andy Mabbett <andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
>> In message
>> <cd2b26c60611131035n600d1ad0uf51758cc3deb3335 at mail.gmail.com>, Bruce
>> D'Arcus <bdarcus.lists at gmail.com> writes
>> >Pages to indicate the length of a book should be beyond scope. It's
>> >not relevant to citations.
>> I disagree, not least because people often cite a whole book, rather
>> than part of it.
>Which is exactly why the length of the book is irrelevant.

No it isn't. Note "not least".

>The only
>time you include pages in a citation is if you are referring to a
>section within a book (typically a chapter), and the purpose there is
>simply to help you find it. Page count does nothing to help you with
>that, and for that reason they are never included in citations in my

But citation uFs are being recommended for more than pure academic
citations - in resumes,  for example, where the page count is likely to
be far more relevant.

>Page count is only relevant to publishers and book stores (maybe).

That's an assertion for which you can provide no evidence.

>> >Don't worry about start and end because, as you noted, pages
>> >can be discontinuous.
>> But what about inter-operability with other standards?
>Which ones? There is no standard way to do this;

Hence my deliberate use of the plural.

>some use start/end and others a single property.

So why not allow both to be marked up?

Andy Mabbett
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