[uf-discuss] a very early draft proposal hTagcloud

[David Janes]

Hi John,

In my mind, the question is if there wasn't an IE issue, how would we
do it? Given that observation, I then see these three points:

- the IE issue will be marginal in 24 months (I hope) because of IE 7
- uFs are mostly about standardized _semantics_ rather than providing
standardized _presenation_
- rel-tag + rating from hReview covers what we want to do
semantically; i.e. reuses existing practices

Therefore, I would suggest that hTagcloud say that: "presentation is
orthogonal to what we're trying to do -- provide semantic markup of
tag clouds. Tag cloud implementers should come up with their own best
way of handling the presentaion -- in fact, they probably already
have! As a bonus, as soon as MS gets its act together you'll be able
to do the presentation directly off the semantics, but we're not there
yet".

Regards, etc...
David

On 9/20/06, John Allsopp <john at westciv.com> wrote:
> David,
>
>
> > If IE6 compatibility is the issue, why not do the rating+rel-tag+css
> > selectors, plus a hack for backwards browsers?
>
> > <abbr class="value" title="4">
> > <a rel="tag" href="/tags/Web+Standards+Group" class="tsize4">
> >  Web Standards Group
> > </a>
> >
> > Where e.g. "tsize4" is not part of the semantics but rather a purely
> > presentation hack?
>
> this is predicated on the idea that the use of
>
> class="vv-popular" is not an appropriate use of the HTML class
> attribute.
>
> I do discuss this in some detail in the article
>
> http://microformatique.com/?page_id=34
>
> title exists for "advisory information", while class for "general
> purpose processing".
>
> so, one important issue is
>
> is title="vv-popular" for example, more correct HTML than
>
> class="vv-popular"
>
> ?
>
> j
>
>
>
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