[uf-discuss] a very early draft proposal hTagcloud

Stephen Paul Weber singpolyma at gmail.com
Wed Sep 20 11:05:35 PDT 2006


One small point to consider might be - how would the community at
large benefit from this uF?  What data could scripts/crawlers extract,
what enhancements could, say, GM scripts add.  If not enough is
included to give a useful or meaningful answer to those questions, is
it worth having a uF at all?

On 9/20/06, Drew McLellan <lists at allinthehead.com> wrote:
> On 20/9/2006, "David Janes" <davidjanes at blogmatrix.com> wrote:
>
> >I would suggest that hTagcloud say that: "presentation is
> >orthogonal to what we're trying to do -- provide semantic markup of
> >tag clouds. Tag cloud implementers should come up with their own best
> >way of handling the presentaion -- in fact, they probably already
> >have! As a bonus, as soon as MS gets its act together you'll be able
> >to do the presentation directly off the semantics, but we're not there
> >yet".
>
> I think this is an important point. Ultimately in marking up a tag cloud,
> we should be representing the value of each data point.
>
> This is what we already do with dates in hCalendar - we use an ISO
> datetime to give the absolute value. Common presentation techniques are
> a representation of that date in a friendly English-language format, and
> plotting the date on a calendar grid.
>
> A common presentation technique for geo is to put a pin on a map at the
> corresponding location, but the underlying microformat details latitude
> and longitude.
>
> One might argue that the same should hold true of a tag cloud. It's not
> inherently presentational, it's a bunch of (often relational) data
> points. Those points should be equally capable of being formatted in a
> data table or plotted as a pie chart. Even if the most common
> presentation would be a cloud. It's all about the data.
>
> drew.
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