[uf-discuss] Re: a very early draft proposal hTagcloud
chris.messina at gmail.com
Wed Sep 20 12:31:15 PDT 2006
For one thing, you could "subscribe" to the top 5 tags on delicious in
a series of more than 5... You could also merge data from multiple
sources on the client side to see what the hot tags *really* are
across multiple contexts...
And inasmuch as there plenty of tag clouds out there, devining a more
accessible microformat for this kind of data would help make more
efficient the styling/presentation of such data.
On 9/20/06, Stephen Paul Weber <singpolyma at gmail.com> wrote:
> One small point to consider might be - how would the community at
> large benefit from this uF? What data could scripts/crawlers extract,
> what enhancements could, say, GM scripts add. If not enough is
> included to give a useful or meaningful answer to those questions, is
> it worth having a uF at all?
> On 9/20/06, Drew McLellan <lists at allinthehead.com> wrote:
> > On 20/9/2006, "David Janes" <davidjanes at blogmatrix.com> wrote:
> > >I would suggest that hTagcloud say that: "presentation is
> > >orthogonal to what we're trying to do -- provide semantic markup of
> > >tag clouds. Tag cloud implementers should come up with their own best
> > >way of handling the presentaion -- in fact, they probably already
> > >have! As a bonus, as soon as MS gets its act together you'll be able
> > >to do the presentation directly off the semantics, but we're not there
> > >yet".
> > I think this is an important point. Ultimately in marking up a tag cloud,
> > we should be representing the value of each data point.
> > This is what we already do with dates in hCalendar - we use an ISO
> > datetime to give the absolute value. Common presentation techniques are
> > a representation of that date in a friendly English-language format, and
> > plotting the date on a calendar grid.
> > A common presentation technique for geo is to put a pin on a map at the
> > corresponding location, but the underlying microformat details latitude
> > and longitude.
> > One might argue that the same should hold true of a tag cloud. It's not
> > inherently presentational, it's a bunch of (often relational) data
> > points. Those points should be equally capable of being formatted in a
> > data table or plotted as a pie chart. Even if the most common
> > presentation would be a cloud. It's all about the data.
> > drew.
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