[uf-discuss] use existing before proposing new

Stephen Paul Weber singpolyma at gmail.com
Mon Sep 25 05:50:58 PDT 2006


Those with microformat use experiance are more likely to understand uF
in general, and better at it, so I would definately agree with this
idea.

On 9/24/06, Andy Mabbett <andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
> In message <C13C51DE.7BB37%tantek at cs.stanford.edu>, Tantek Çelik
> <tantek at cs.stanford.edu> writes
>
> >> I came here some months ago, lurked, posted a few minor
> >> comments and lots of questions; marked up some test microformats, asked
> >> for feedback, applied fixes, iterated, marked-up a quantity of real
> >> data,
> >
> >Cool.  Just to be sure - did you add the pages you marked up to the
> >"Examples in the Wild" sections of the respective specifications?
>
> Yes (I've not done so for the (relatively recent) hAtom pages, yet,
> because I want to do further work and testing on it, first).
>
> >I'm thinking were we to adopt this modification to the process that
> >that (adding links to examples in the wild to the wiki) would be the
> >concrete measurable aspect of this requirement.
>
> It would measure that the page has microformats, it would not measure
> that they were put there by the person claiming so.
>
> >> proposed two simple replications/ adaptations of an existing
> >> format, and ONLY THEN proposed the format ("species"), the desire for
> >> which had first led me to look for something like microformats in the
> >> first place.
> >
> >Excellent.
> >
> >Did you find it to be useful/educational to go through the process of
> >marking up and publishing real data with existing microformats?
>
> Of course.
>
> >> That said, you can't stop someone from saying "Hey, I think we need a
> >> microformat for X"; doubly so in a supposedly *open* standards
> >> community.
> >
> >Of course not, but we can help steer people towards being more
> >effective with their microformat ideas and proposals, which is a
> >primary goal of the process.
>
> Then simply *suggest* that people use microformats before proposing
> them, as part of the "process".
>
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